Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #124
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Date:     Tue, 17 May 94 12:13:24 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #124, Volume #2                Tue, 17 May 94 12:13:24 EDT

Contents:
  Platypus logo copyright status? (Joseph Toman)
  Re: ET++ Application Framework (Harald Henkel)
  Re: Please help: trouble configuring network (Luke M Kaven)
  Re: COMAL language (was: Re: Streets named after programming languages) (Jesper Hagen)
  Universal CD-ROM resells Linux CDs, including TransAmeritech (Charles Liu)
  Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big (Alan Cox)
  Re: Please help: trouble configuring network (James W. Abensdchan)
  InfoMagic CD-ROM -- how to order? (horne@leader.pfc.mit.edu)
  Re: LOGISCAN V0.0.1 released (Henning Holtschneider)
  Linux on a Pentium (Frank Seto)
  Re: Linux on a Pentium (Markus Wischerath)
  Slackware installation and kernel recompilation (zachary brown)
  Re: linux 1.1.12 and gcc 2.4.5? (Craig Sanders)
  Any commercially available books on Linux? (naji al-khudairi)
  Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue) (Brandon S. Allbery)
  UNIX Semaphores (Stefan Griesser)
  Re: [Request]: Dump program! (Barry Lynam)

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From: toman@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Joseph Toman)
Subject: Platypus logo copyright status?
Date: 12 May 94 20:24:33 GMT

Hi everybody,

I am interested in making t-shirts using the Linux platypus logo.  I
intend to charge $14 per t-shirt.  Of these $14 one dollar each would go
towards the FSF and towards buying Linus Torvalds a PowerPC based
work station.  Since I would also like to make some money off of this
venture, I need to contact the author of the platypus logo to inquire
about the copyright status on it.
Any information on either the copyright status and/or on contacting the
author would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Johannes

(Johannes Ruscheinski toman@darkwing.uoregon.edu)

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From: henkel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Harald Henkel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: ET++ Application Framework
Date: 17 May 1994 07:31:17 GMT


In article <j.halar.3.000F6AAF@uow.edu.au>, j.halar@uow.edu.au (John Halar) writes:
|> I seem to remember a couple of months ago when I read an news article about 
|> somebody trying to adapt the ObjectWorks ET++ Application Framework for C++ 
|> to run on Linux under X11/R5.
|> 
|> A couple of questions:
|> 
|> 1) Is this software commercial or shareware/public domain??

ET++ was developed at the Eidgen"ossische Technische Hochschule (ETH) Z"urich
(Schweiz) (the same I think where Pascal, Modula & Oberon where developed)
and is free.

I've worked with it a year ago. (i think under HP-UX or SunOS).
With static libraries link times - even for small programms - are very high (>5
min).

But the concept of integrating static and dynamic class-browsers into the 
(debugging-) applications is very interesting.

|> 2) If it is, has anybody successfully compiled it and had it working 
|>    for linux??

Heaven't heard of it yet.

|> 3) Is there an ftp site from which I could get it from?

At least here in Munich

  ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de //pub/comp/programming/libraries/C++/ET++

Surely in the ETH Z"urich, too, but I don't know the email/ftp-address there.

Harald Henkel,

  student of computer science at Technische Universitaet Muenchen (Germany).

|> 
|> Any answer to these questions will be appreciated.
|> 
|> Cheers
|> 
|> John Halar
|> E-mail: j.halar@uow.edu.au
|> 
|> 

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From: lmk6@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Luke M Kaven)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Please help: trouble configuring network
Date: 17 May 1994 07:33:19 GMT

lmk6@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Luke M Kaven) writes:

>I am having great difficulty getting networking to run correctly
>on our Linux machine.  

I should also say that the default network is defined in /etc/networks
as 0.0.0.0.  I also tried establishing a static route to the
gateway by issuing

route add -host 192.76.178.1 dev eth0

but this does not seem to help matters.  

I notice that "route -n" always lists the route table
successfully, whereas merely issuing "route" hangs before
listing anything.  Issuing "netstat -r" will hang as well.

I'm running out of ideas.  I'll just bet the solution is a 
trivial one too!!  

Signed, *sniff*

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From: hagen@iesd.auc.dk (Jesper Hagen)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: COMAL language (was: Re: Streets named after programming languages)
Date: 17 May 1994 11:31:45 GMT

>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Coleman <benc@netcom.com> writes:

    Ben> Kurt Wm. Hemr, Harvard Law School (hemr@hulaw1.harvard.edu)
    Ben> wrote: :> Apropos of Commodore's death [Warning: impending
    Ben> topic drift] :> does anyone remember a language called COMAL?
    Ben> Did this language :> ever exist on a system besides the C64?
    Ben> If not, any reason why?

    Ben> I seem to remember it eventually being ported to the PC.

    Ben> Ben

It was also ported to the Commodore Amiga.

Hagen

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From: alte@rahul.net (Charles Liu)
Subject: Universal CD-ROM resells Linux CDs, including TransAmeritech
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 22:54:33 GMT

        Universal CD-ROM (tm) resells many  CD-ROM Titles. If you 
know some other place offers better price, please let us know, we will 
try to match. 

        The price does not include shipping and California sales tax (if 
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        Universal CD-ROM (tm)
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        Campbell, CA 95008
        (408)996-7579
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 12:39:30 GMT

In article <2r1m5q$qum@Venus.mcs.com> andydeck@MCS.COM (Andrew Deckowitz) writes:
>I too do not see a problem with Novell creating a GUI for Linux.  But I
>do have to add a guffaw at the thought of Novell's support actually
>adding value to Linux development.  At this time, Novell developer
>support is somewhat of a standing joke.  Being an optimist, I do have
>high hopes for Novell's new Enterprise Support Division.  Unfortunately
>I am also a cynical realist, and expect to be disappointed.

I've had two recent dealings with Novell for DOS stuff and they were nothing
but helpful and knew roughly what I wanted. Not a match for IBM - few places
I know where you can phone a random IBM tech number and say I want the
specs for NetBEUI and have it ordered and in the post in 5 minutes.
>
Novell:
>Summary: first they will port to UnixWare, then they will produce
>operating-system independent services to allow NetWare features on
>non-NetWare operating systems.
I'm still collecting info on NCP - I reckon I have enough info to 
begin attacking the idea of a netware userfs.

Alan


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From: unkadath!shamus@naucse.cse.nau.edu (James W. Abensdchan)
Subject: Re: Please help: trouble configuring network
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 10:37:04 GMT

In article <2r9lan$k2j@tuba.cit.cornell.edu> lmk6@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Luke M Kaven) writes:
>-- I receive the following messages in syslog after bootup:
>
>May 16 23:44:55 routed[51]: Adding route to net/host 0.0.0.0 through gateway 0.0.0.0 : Invalid argument
>May 16 23:47:55 routed[51]: deleting route to interface eth0 (timed out)

You know, I got the same message from routed.  Never fully understood why
the hell it didn't work..

In the end, since I'm just on a TAN (tiny area network :-) I added
routes to my Macintosh and GatorBox by hand (well, in /etc/rc.net)
and it worked without a problem.

Still, I would like to know what I was doing wrong... all my interfaces
had IP addresses and were ifconfig'd properly.. but still routed didn't
like me.  Strange.

James

-- 
James W. Abendschan                "Turing," she said.  "You are under arrest."
...!naucse!unkadath!shamus    shamus@unkadath.uucp      jwa@sunset.cse.nau.edu

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From: horne@leader.pfc.mit.edu
Subject: InfoMagic CD-ROM -- how to order?
Date: 17 MAY 94 13:29:42 GMT

I've read many good things lately about the InfoMagic 2-CD deal,
but I must have missed the original advertisement.
How do I order it?  I have looked around a bit -- c.o.l.a, .m, .h,
distribution how-to and it hasn't jumped out at me.
                                        Thanks
                                                Steve
                                                horne@leader.pfc.mit.edu

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
From: hh@hhdo.ping.de (Henning Holtschneider)
Subject: Re: LOGISCAN V0.0.1 released
Date: Mon, 16 May 1994 18:05:10 GMT

CHRISTOPHER M MAY (cmay@titan.ucs.umass.edu) wrote:

> : [for those of you who don't understand enough: the author has written a
> : driver, based on the mustek driver, for the Scanman32 and Scanman+. He has
> : uploaded the file to tsx-11.mit.edu as logiscan.tar.gz]

> Hi, I have a scanman32 and it has just been collecting dust.  I was
> wondering if you knew a more exact location for this file, as I could 
> not find it on tsx-11, and 'archie logiscan.tar.gz' found no matches.

Unfortunately, I myself did not get the file by now :-( But it seems in
tsx-11's incoming because 'get incoming/logiscan.tar.gz' says "permission
denied"! Perhaps you might contact tsx-11's ftpadm?!

Greetings from Dortmund

                <-gninneH<-
-- 
      Henning Holtschneider * Bauernkamp 41 * 44339 Dortmund * Germany
          Member of OASE - European Shareware Authors Organization
  Internet: hh@hhdo.ping.de  Fidonet: 2:2444/1099  Telefax: +49 231 7285296

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From: gt1315b@prism.gatech.edu (Frank Seto)
Subject: Linux on a Pentium
Date: 17 May 1994 00:52:03 -0400

I am very new to Linux and I was wondering if anyone knows if it will run
correctly on a Pentium.  Perhaps there is a version that is optimize for
the Pentium? if not, would it be possible to recompile the kernel optimize
for the Pentium?  Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
                                -Frank

-- 
Frank Seto
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:     ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt1315b
Internet: gt1315b@prism.gatech.edu

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From: mw@spinfo.Uni-Koeln.DE (Markus Wischerath)
Subject: Re: Linux on a Pentium
Reply-To: mw@spinfo.uni-koeln.de
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 12:36:10 GMT


gt1315b@prism.gatech.edu (Frank Seto) writes:
> 
> I am very new to Linux and I was wondering if anyone knows if it will run
> correctly on a Pentium.  Perhaps there is a version that is optimize for

Yes, it works fine on the P5.

> the Pentium? if not, would it be possible to recompile the kernel optimize
> for the Pentium?  Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

There is a modified version of gcc on ftp.intel.com:/x86/gnu/compilers
which supports an -mpentium flag. This is a patched gcc 2.4.0. I 
downloaded the package, but haven't tried it yet. Dunno whether someone
has already built the Linux binaries. 

--Markus               
mw@spinfo.uni-koeln.de            # rm -rf / and one was assaulted...peanut


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From: zbrown@lynx.dac.neu.edu (zachary brown)
Subject: Slackware installation and kernel recompilation
Date: 17 May 1994 08:37:09 -0400


Two questions about Slackware:

1) if I copy the .tgz files from the installation disks to the root
directory and gunzip and untar them from there, is that the same as
running the (excellent) installation program without configuring at the
end?

2) If I compile the kernel included in the D series without changing any
of the defaults, do I get an identical kernal to the one included on the
a series?

lovitlovit
Linux, the internet, libraries and fire departments are good.

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Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.help
From: cas@muffin.apana.org.au (Craig Sanders)
Subject: Re: linux 1.1.12 and gcc 2.4.5?
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 10:59:49 GMT

grahamc@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Graham Chapman) writes:

>In <1994May14.012234.10106@muffin.apana.org.au> cas@muffin.apana.org.au (Craig Sanders) writes:

>>grahamc@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Graham Chapman) writes:

> > particular, libg.a was a sym link to libc.a - I guess things have
> > changed a lot since SLS 1.03 was released.  I don't think that this
> > was documented in the release notes...I had to figure it out myself.

> Hmm. I didn't run into this one. My /usr/lib/libg.a is still a symlink
> to libc.a. I might dig into this a little...

I only noticed it by accident - I was looking at the tar file with "tar
tvfz", and noticed that libg.a was over 2MB in size, and remembered
seeing libg.a as a symbolic link to libc.a...I thought that was odd at
the time. "tar xvfz" wont overwrite a symbolic link so I deleted the
link and untarred it again.

> > I installed all of the above except for tools 2.10 - what's in that,

> Tools was written by Eric Youngdale and provides tools to generate DLL
> jumptable libraries. The current version is tools-2.11.  You can get
> it from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/packages/GCC/src.  Archie almost
> certainly has a copy, but I found mine right here on kralizec.

I'll see if i can get a copy from archie.au or monu1.cc.monash.edu.au (a
partial mirror of sunsite.unc.edu).  It sounds like I don't really need
it unless I am installing gcc from the sources, though.

> Having done it once, I might go for a binary install next time I
> upgrade, but where can I get a full binary release which is complete
> and consistent etc?

try monu1.cc.monash.edu.au.

I thing I got my copy from loose.apana.org.au.  Or maybe from sunsite.

-- 
Craig Sanders                                     cas@muffin.apana.org.au


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From: nma2255@u.cc.utah.edu (naji al-khudairi)
Subject: Any commercially available books on Linux?
Date: 16 May 1994 17:19:39 -0600


        I'm interested to know if anyone has written any comprehensive
books on Linux.  Anyone know of any books that give a description of the
entire Linux system as a whole?  I have so many files on my Linux system
and I barely know what any of them do, and the man pages omit many of
them.  I would like to know the what the various binaries do, the formats
of scripts, non-binaries and other files.  Any suggestions?

--Naji

-- 
-- Naji M. Khudairi - naji.al-khudairi@m.cc.utah.edu or oracle@blkbox.com --
--         Finger nma2255@u.cc.utah.edu  for PGP 2.3A public key.         --

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From: bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org (Brandon S. Allbery)
Subject: Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue)
Date: Tue, 17 May 1994 12:23:45 GMT

In article <1994May17.014820.9936@rosevax.rosemount.com>, grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) says:
+---------------
| price drops happen, the computer you _really_ want always costs
| $5,000.  (And the corollary: the computer you actually bought cost
| $2,500, and a few years later is worth $250)
+------------->8

The computer I bought cost about $5000.  6 months later, and I could buy a
PowerPC...

I've stopped worrying about it; the axiom I now use is "if it can be bought,
it's already obsolete" :-)

++Brandon
-- 
Brandon S. Allbery         kf8nh@kf8nh.ampr.org          bsa@kf8nh.wariat.org
The FUDs at Microsoft are shouting "Kill The Wabi!"

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From: griesser@poppo.uni-passau.de (Stefan Griesser)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions
Subject: UNIX Semaphores
Date: 17 May 1994 12:57:42 GMT

Hello,

  who has some experience with programming UNIX-semaphores?

Following C++ class, a straight forward implementation of binary semaphores
with Dijkstra P() and V() functions  causes some problems:
 
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/ipc.h>
#include <sys/sem.h>
#include <iostream.h>

class binsem
{
private:
  int semid;
public:
  binsem (key_t key);    // construktor
  void V();
  void P();
};
    


#include <unistd.h>
#define PERMS 0666

binsem::binsem (key_t key)
{
  if (semid = semget (key, 1, IPC_CREAT | PERMS) < 0)
    {
      cerr << "semget error\n";
      exit (-1);
    }
  cout << semid << endl;
}

binsem::~binsem ()
{
}

void binsem::P()
{
  static struct sembuf op_lock[2] = {
    0, 0, 0,              /* wait for sem#0 to become 0 */
    0, 1, SEM_UNDO};      /* then increment sem#0 by 1  */

  if (semop (semid, &op_lock[0], 2) < 0)
    {
      cerr << "semop: can't lock\n";
      exit (-1);
    }
}

void binsem::V()
{
  static struct sembuf op_unlock[1] = {
    0, -1, (IPC_NOWAIT | SEM_UNDO)};   /* decrement sem#0 by 1  */

  if (semop (semid, &op_unlock[0], 1) < 0)
    {
      cerr << "semop: can't unlock\n";
      exit (-1);
    }
}


following little program to use it:

#include "binsem.h"
#include <unistd.h>

main()
{
  binsem a(123745L), b(1327346L);  // arbitrary key-values
  
  cout << "sems created\n";
  a.P();
  b.P();
  cout << "sems locked\n";
  cout << "critical section " << getpid () << endl;
  sleep (5);
  b.V();
  a.V();
}

Both semaphores are created, but semget returns ID 0 for *both* of them.
Then the program hangs in the execution of b.P() (of course!).

I've tested the program on both Linux and SunOS, getting the same result
on either system.

If I only use semaphore a in the program, it works okay. What is going on
here? How can I get UNIX to create several *distinct* semaphores?

Thank you very much,

Stefan

P.S. Please also email your answers.


-- 
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  Stefan Griesser                         griesser@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de
  94032 Passau                   ,,,
  Germany                       (.~.)  
============================oOO==(_)==OOo==================================

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin
From: lynam@qut.edu.au (Barry Lynam)
Subject: Re: [Request]: Dump program!
Reply-To: B.Lynam@qut.edu.au
Date: Mon, 16 May 94 23:19:37 GMT

Hi,

In article <2r7dj8$cqd@serra.unipi.it>, gio@cli.di.unipi.it (Gioacchino
La_vecchia) writes:
|>      Is there any program for dump in Linux environment?
|>      I looked for dump or rdump but I cannot found anything

If it is a remote backup in particular that you are looking for, tar can do
that something like tar -cvf machine:\dev\tape_device uses the same facility as
rdump.


Hope this helps someone.

Barry



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