Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #110
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To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Sat, 14 May 94 20:13:10 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #110, Volume #2                Sat, 14 May 94 20:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  xfm documentation? (Christian Saucier)
  Re: MS Windows emulation under linux (Dave Gardner)
  Re: Need keyboard with <CTRL> key next to <A> key. (Don Smith)
  Re: Linux Journal (Well worth the wait) (Michael Norman)
  Re: LGX '94 is HERE!!!  (?) (Steve McMahon)
  Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue) ("Eric Jeschke")
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (Doug Landauer)
  Re: Looking for a good editor for coding in. (Shyamal Prasad)
  Trouble with NFS and Linux 1.0 (kmp@apollo.linet.org)
  Elm on Linux -- Help (Ivan Berrios)
  NEC Versa E Color Notebook??? (Rod Oldehoeft)
  COMAL language (was: Re: Streets named after programming languages) (Ben Coleman)
  Re: LGX '94 is HERE!!!  (?) (Adam J. Richter)
  Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue) (Matt Welsh)
  Re: Changing keys for changing VC (Hal N. Brooks)
  Re: idiot's guide to unix/linux (Bill Reynolds)
  New: The Linux Quarterly CDROM, Spring '94 (Kernel 1.1.12, Xfree 2.1.1) (Michael R. Johnston)
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs) (Wilson Roberto Afonso)
  Re: Which version should I use (Grant Edwards)
  Re: any Mac emulator ? (Matt McLeod)

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From: saucc00@DMI.USherb.CA (Christian Saucier)
Subject: xfm documentation?
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 04:24:43 GMT

Hi folks,

I'm looking for a file manager program for my linux box.  With
slackware comes xfilemanager and xfm.  I tried both and I finally
prefer xfm.

Now, I can't find any doc on how to configure xfm anywhere.

Is there a place where I can find a man page or something on xfm?

Thanx,

C.

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From: dgardner@netcom.com (Dave Gardner)
Subject: Re: MS Windows emulation under linux
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 00:17:34 GMT

Chuck Irvine (irvine@lks.csi.com) wrote:
: Hi, I'm new to this group; hope this isn't a totally stupid question:
: I thought that I had heard once that Windows emulation software,
: allowing one to run Windows software, was available for LINUX (soft pc
: comes to mind). Can someone confirm or deny? Thanks

The WINdows Emulator (Wine) project is underway now.  For more 
information, ftp to:

        ftp.netcom.com:/pub/dgardner/Wine.FAQ


-- 
=============================================================================
 Dave Gardner          |   I went to a restaurant that serves "breakfast    
 S. Pasadena, CA       |   at any time."  So I ordered French Toast during
 dgardner@netcom.com   |   the Renaissance.                -- Steven Wright
=============================================================================


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From: djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Don Smith)
Subject: Re: Need keyboard with <CTRL> key next to <A> key.
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 22:34:42 GMT

>I use Emacs under Linux quite often and I need a keyboard where the <CTRL>
>key is next to the A key and not at the bottom of the keyboard.

Don't laugh... but the XT i'm sitting on here at work (right next to
a quadra 840av noless) has the control key in that position.  Its one
of those ancient keyboards that weigh about 10 pounds :).

  -don 



-- 
   | Don Smith                                                               |
   | djs6015@ultb.rit.edu     djs6015@cs.rit.edu     DJSFAC@rit.edu          |
   | DEA administrative judge Francis Young speaking about marijuana in 1988 |
   |   "one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."   |

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From: mwnorman@bcarh76a.bnr.ca (Michael Norman)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal (Well worth the wait)
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 19:37:16 GMT

In article <768646655snz@rock.demon.co.uk>, Graham@rock.demon.co.uk (Graham Nicholls) writes:
|> At last, I received my LJ (1&2) yesterday. 
|> I am very impressed, and look forward to receiving 3.
|> 
|> Thanks to all at fylz.com, especially the lady who I gave a hard time to.
|> 
|> Had to post here, as I had previously moaned about not receiving it.
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Graham Nicholls
|> Sig applied for.

Ditto! I got my #2 (and an extra copy of #1!). Electronic apologies
to "the lady who I gave a hard time to." 

============
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From: steve.mcmahon@lambada.oit.unc.edu (Steve McMahon)
Subject: Re: LGX '94 is HERE!!!  (?)
Date: 14 May 94 20:43:00 GMT

>>>>> On 13 May 1994 23:34:08 GMT, adam@adam.yggdrasil.com (Adam J. Richter) said:

>       Summer 1994 Plug-and-Play Linux (formerly LGX) has been shipping
> since Thursday.  We will submit a product announcement to
> comp.os.linux.announce soon.  In the meantime, here is an incomplete
> list of new features.  [I have now spent two hours agonizing over
> how to arrange this list of features in the official announcement.
> I'd be interested in hearing which features users think are the most
> important. --Adam]

Will you give a free CD to software contributers like you used to do
with the previous version?

-Steve


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From: "Eric Jeschke" <jeschke@cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue)
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 15:47:28 -0500

There is a very indirect reference to Linux in PC Mag (May 31).
In Bill Machrone's column he refers to the WWW server set up by
PC Week (which used Linux for the server, apparently).
Anyway, in reference to Mosaic/Web he says "virtually every component
is available as freeware, including a public-domain version of Unix".
I'm almost certain he is referring to Linux.

-- 
Eric Jeschke                      |          Indiana University
jeschke@cs.indiana.edu            |     Computer Science Department

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From: landauer@morocco.Eng.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.kibology,alt.humor.puns
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages
Date: 14 May 1994 20:37:28 GMT

> >>Is there in Silicon Valley a street called `Disk Drive' ? 
> >
> >Disk Drive is in Scotts Valley CA.  about 20 or so miles sw of
> >San Jose.  I think Scotts Valley is the main home of some
> >corps like seagate and borland------

There is also a Disk Drive in San Jose, north of highway 237,
off "Nortech Pkwy".  Fortran Drive is a block farther east.

> How much does a trip there on the local bus cost from Memory Lane?

Memory Lane is a around 10 miles northwest of Scotts Valley (and north
of Boulder Creek), and connects the lower and upper sections of highway
236, near Big Basin State Park.  You can only find the sign at the
bottom, off China Grade; much of the top part is a private road and
has gates on it.  Fun MTB ride, though.  The local bus (route 35, as I
recall) might stop as close as the lower intersection of China Grade and
236, but you need a transfer to get from it to the 30, which is the only
one that goes to Scotts Valley.  So, probably $2, to answer your question.
(If you're a AAA member, try to get the "Santa Clara/Santa Cruz Counties"
map -- it actually shows the bottom half of Memory Lane.)

FWIW, when I lived up near there, I had a landlady who lived on
Either Way.
--
Doug Landauer -- landauer@eng.sun.com                   _
Sun Microsystems, Inc. -- SMI/SunSoft/SunPro/ADE       La no ka 'oi.

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From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Re: Looking for a good editor for coding in.
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 20:53:22 GMT

In article <2r3863$kr4@post-office.nevada.edu>,
GLEN HEIN <ghein@nevada.edu> wrote:
>I'm looking for a good editor for coding software in.  I would it to be an 
>XWindows app if possible.  Good auto-indenting and color coding would be 
>helpful.  If you have a recommendation, please send it to me.  
>

Try emacs19 ..... editors are a religious issue, but I'd be hard
pressed to recommend any other editor for programming in a UNIX
environment. Its free, and is very, very flexible. Its so flexible
learning to use it correctly may take a week or so but its time well
spent. 

Regards,
Shyamal
-- 
Shyamal Prasad, Department of Computer Science
Southern Methodist University, Dallas TX 75275, USA

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: kmp@apollo.linet.org
Subject: Trouble with NFS and Linux 1.0
Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 16:26:17 GMT


        Second posting...please reply...

        I am having a problem with NFS.  I have exported my entire file
        system to an AIX machine that has a tape machine.  When I try
        to archive the file system with tar at the AIX machine, the thing
        hangs on the first large file it comes to.  On my Linux machine, I
        see errors in the message log about the kernel not being able to
        kmalloc more than 4096 bytes.  In looking at the code it seems
        that any requests for more than 4K bytes are resized to something
        smaller than that.  Is there something here that's been fixed already
        or is this something new.  The AIX machine just sits there forever
        saying Server yourmachine not responding, still trying...

        Help!  I want to back up my system this way.

        Thanx in advance,

        Kevin Penrose



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From: i0b8356@tamsun.tamu.edu (Ivan Berrios)
Subject: Elm on Linux -- Help
Date: 14 May 1994 16:59:42 -0500

        Hello there!!

        I just installed Linux Beta-TAMU on a 486 PC and workings
great.  The machine is connected to the network since I can read mail
and send mail through the default mail program, i.e. mail userid <
filename.  however, I really hate that mail handler so I downloaded
the elm program from tsx-11.mit.edu (I think) in any case, the thing
is I can't send mail through elm.  I can read mail and compose a
message and actually use the send command but the message will never
get to its destination.  I followed the instructions on th README file
but still to no avail.  Please help!  It's been 2 long days trying to
get this thing to work right!

        Please reply to i0b8356@tamsun.tamu.edu which is my school
account or to ivan@sanjuan.tamu.edu which is my linux box.  However,
don;t expect any reply from sanjuan.tamu.edu since I can;t reply or
forward until elm is configured right.

        desperately looking for help,


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
From: rro@CS.ColoState.EDU (Rod Oldehoeft)
Subject: NEC Versa E Color Notebook???
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 22:27:05 GMT

Does anyone have first-hand information about the suitability of linux
on the new NEC Versa E notebook machine with the active color display?

This seems to be a first-rate computer, but it's no computer at all
if I cannot run linux there.

Please respond by e-mail.  Thanks.



|--------------------------------------------------------------|
| Rod Oldehoeft                    Email: rro@cs.colostate.edu |
| Computer Science Department      Voice: 303/491-5792         |
| Colorado State University        Fax:   303/491-2466         |
| Fort Collins, CO  80523                                      |
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|                                 ---Vice President Dan Quayle |
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Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
From: benc@netcom.com (Ben Coleman)
Subject: COMAL language (was: Re: Streets named after programming languages)
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 21:56:56 GMT

Kurt Wm. Hemr, Harvard Law School (hemr@hulaw1.harvard.edu) wrote:
:> Apropos of Commodore's death [Warning: impending topic drift]
:> does anyone remember a language called COMAL?  Did this language
:> ever exist on a system besides the C64?  If not, any reason why?

I seem to remember it eventually being ported to the PC.

Ben

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From: adam@adam.yggdrasil.com (Adam J. Richter)
Subject: Re: LGX '94 is HERE!!!  (?)
Date: 14 May 1994 14:28:09 GMT

In article <940514164245@lambada>,
>Will you give a free CD to software contributers like you used to do
>with the previous version?

        Yes.  See yggdrasil.com:pub/for-contributors/free-copy-offer.

-- 
Adam J. Richter                     -      --------------   "Free software for
Yggdrasil Computing, Inc.             \  /                   the rest of us."
adam@yggdrasil.com                     || g g d r a s i l
4880 Stevens Creek Blvd., Suite 205    ||  Computing Inc.    (408) 261-6630

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From: mdw@cs.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue)
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 22:02:38 GMT

In article <1994May14.154731.29192@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Eric Jeschke" <jeschke@cs.indiana.edu> writes:
>There is a very indirect reference to Linux in PC Mag (May 31).
>In Bill Machrone's column he refers to the WWW server set up by
>PC Week (which used Linux for the server, apparently).
>Anyway, in reference to Mosaic/Web he says "virtually every component
>is available as freeware, including a public-domain version of Unix".
>I'm almost certain he is referring to Linux.

If so, he's dead wrong about the "public domain" part.

mdw

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From: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks)
Subject: Re: Changing keys for changing VC
Date: 14 May 1994 22:37:33 GMT
Reply-To: hal@pollux.cs.uga.edu (Hal N. Brooks)

In article <1994May14.161246.4827@nomina.lu.se> pi92ae@pt.hk-r.se writes:
>How easy would it be to change keycombination for switching VC's,
>I am tired of trying 
>to do CTRL-ALT-F[n] in a normal VC, and ALT-F[n] in dosemu, and xwindows.
>
>Isn't it time to standardize the console switching, e.g. to
>ctrl-alt-function key or 
>something the like. It would ease up life quite a bit.  
>
>I don't see any reason to why we have to have two ways, when in my eyes
>one of them 
>could do (ctrl-alt)
>
>Could any1 please point me out where to look, and I probably could
>continue on from 
>there.

Odd, but it seems like "loadkeys" is the answer to so many questions
these days.

Most, but not all, of the keyboard translation tables supplied with
kbd-0.8x.tar.gz seem to have something of the form:

keycode  59 = F1               F11              Console_13      
        control keycode  59 = F1              
        alt     keycode  59 = Console_1       
        control alt     keycode  59 = Console_1       

which should give you the functionality you desire.

======================================================================
 Hal N. Brooks     Voice: (706) 546-7792     Internet: hal@cs.uga.edu
======================================================================

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From: bill@yossarian.pianosa.gov (Bill Reynolds)
Subject: Re: idiot's guide to unix/linux
Date: 11 May 94 10:09:54
Reply-To: bill@goshawk.lanl.gov

In article <1994May10.032031.7143@cs.cornell.edu> mdw@cs.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh) writes:

   Isee, but using SGML isn't going to solve that problem. If you need to
   get quick information from Info pages you can always use the search 
   facilities (or write your own). 

Actually what I was thinking of was more along the lines of converting
things to html - sgml is good because it also gives your hardcopy and
ascii. It seems to me that a Mosaic or a Chimera could be hacked into
a pretty good document browsing tool.
--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Bill Reynolds  bill@goshawk.lanl.gov | 

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From: mjohnsto@ditdah.Morse.Net (Michael R. Johnston)
Subject: New: The Linux Quarterly CDROM, Spring '94 (Kernel 1.1.12, Xfree 2.1.1)
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 21:12:52 GMT

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Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
From: wilson@nutec.com (Wilson Roberto Afonso)
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs)
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 23:23:27 GMT

Adding to it, in France there is a tower named after a programming
language...

-Wilson "or is it the other way around ?" Afonso

-- 
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+1 415 988-9781                    2685 Marine Way Suite 1319
FAX: +1 415 988-9782               Mountain View, CA 94043
Internet: wilson@nutec.com

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From: grante@reddwarf.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Which version should I use
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 22:28:31 GMT

George k Frimpong (twfg@unity.ncsu.edu) wrote:
: I finally gave up on JANA and went for InfoMagic (should arrive today 
: or tomorrow).  Being a Linux (but not Unix) newbie, I was wondering which 
: version I should install when the CD's get here?  From what I understand, 
: I'll have SLS and Slackware, and ...  Any opinions?  I am running on a 
: Gateway 486DX2/50 with about 110Mb of disk set aside for Linux (could be 
: more if _abs_ necessary) and 20Mb RAM.  

I've tried Yggdrasil-LGX, Debian (beta release) , and Slackware.
Slackware is my pick.  IMO it has the easiest install and
configuration.

--
Grant Edwards                                 |Yow!  I want FORTY-TWO TRYNEL
Rosemount Inc.                                |FLOATATION SYSTEMS installed
                                              |within SIX AND A HALF
grante@rosemount.com                          |HOURS!!!

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From: matt@toaster.hna.com.au (Matt McLeod)
Subject: Re: any Mac emulator ?
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 16:38:56 AEST

paloma@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Paloma Calvo) writes:

>         My question is: Is there any Macintosh emulator for Linux or,
> alternatively, can Executor be used under Dosemu ?

a) Not that I know of
b) Probably not, but I've not tried it.

BTW, Executor is available for some Un*x systems (although I don't
remember which).  Anyway, don't hold your breath for a Linux version.
Every publisher I've spoken to about Linux software has either laughed,
or, more seriously, said that they had considered it but decided not
to as Linux users wouldn't pay for anything.

Matt

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