Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #109
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Sat, 14 May 94 16:13:12 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #109, Volume #2                Sat, 14 May 94 16:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Improving Linux performance: What works best? (Ken Sorensen)
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs) (Ken Sorensen)
  Linux & DOS ?             (PAT SHEAFFER)
  Re: finding Linux help (Steve Horsley)
  private mailing list, which list server to use? (Richard Wifall)
  Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue) (Warner Losh)
  Re: Linux and CD-ROMs (Artygalin Seit Sh.)
  Re: Raytracing and Linux (Robert W. Brewer)
  Changing keys for changing VC (Andy)
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (Hank Oredson)
  how to pass values from lilo's menu to /etc/rc.d/rc.local (Thomas Vogler)
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs) (David Watson)
  *base system? what would it take (Ron Smits)
  Linux & DEC ALPHAs... (Dwight M Evers)
  Re: any Mac emulator ? (William Birkmaier)
  Re: LGX '94 is HERE!!!  (?) (Adam J. Richter)
  Re: Term 115 (beta) is out. (Yasuo Ohgaki)
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs) (Jose Acacio de Barros)
  Looking for a good editor for coding in. (GLEN HEIN)
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (Henrik Jonsson)
  Re: Term 115 (beta) is out. (Zhuo Er Lin)

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From: ksore@atr-14 (Ken Sorensen)
Subject: Re: Improving Linux performance: What works best?
Date: 10 May 1994 15:50:34 GMT

David H Dennis (dhd@netcom.com) wrote:
: I have a 486 DX2/66 with 8mb RAM, an UltraStor 34F SCSI controller and
: a 1.8GB Quantum SCSI hard disk.  (I also have a 1MB Cirrus Logic video
: card, a NEC 4FG monitor, and a BocaBoard 2016 multi-port serial card,
: but I don't think any of those are relevent).
[muncha....]
: When news is being processed through the system, I find that it slows
: down to a crawl.  I would like to speed it up.  I'm thinking of one or
: more of the following:
[muncha....]
: - Bumping system memory to 16MB (or 32mb if it seems warranted and would
:   improve performance more than any other option)

This is the most prudent approach to upgrading (if that's what's necessary).
Linux (and Unix in general) loves memory, and will always run better with
as much as you can give it. Also check the news software your using, you
may not need to upgrade the memory.

[muncha...]

: You may feel free to post answers as follow-ups;  I will check for them
: religiously.  Many thanks for any help.

Your welcome.

--
Kenneth Sorensen                    |  ksore@sed.hac.com
====================================+==================================
Hughes Aircraft Company             |  Phone: (714) 732-9816
P.O. Box 3310                       |  Fax:   (714) 732-1953
Fullerton, California, US           +----------------------------------
92634-3310, Mail Station: 618/B223  |  #include <std-disclaimer.h>

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From: ksore@atr-14 (Ken Sorensen)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs)
Date: 11 May 1994 16:20:01 GMT

Andrew Bulhak (acbul1@penfold.cc.monash.edu.au) wrote:
: [comp.os.linux.announce]

: Luuk Spreeuwers - UT (luuk@mi.el.utwente.nl) wrote:
: : The supplier is:

: : Inside Technology
: : Fortranweg 7
:   ^^^^^^^^^^
: : 3821 BK  Amersfoort
: : Netherlands

: A street named after Fortran? How cool!
: Does anybody know of any other streets named after programming languages?

Yeah. In Irvine, CA in the Irvine Spectrum (a miniature version of
Silicon Valley) there's a street named after Ada.

--
Kenneth Sorensen                    |  ksore@sed.hac.com
====================================+==================================
Hughes Aircraft Company             |  Phone: (714) 732-9816
P.O. Box 3310                       |  Fax:   (714) 732-1953
Fullerton, California, US           +----------------------------------
92634-3310, Mail Station: 618/B223  |  #include <std-disclaimer.h>

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Reply-To: pat_sheaffer@labsline.win.net (PAT SHEAFFER)
From: pat_sheaffer@labsline.win.net (PAT SHEAFFER)
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 15:12:00 GMT
Subject: Linux & DOS ?            


Well, suppose I *do* try and get Linux running on my 
home Pentium PC clone...  Does that mean that I have
to chuck all my PC/Windows software?  *wow*

Is there any other way to get well-connected to the
INTERNET?  Does anyone know if UUCP and all the other
great INTERNET access goodies are available under
OS/2 or DOS/Windows?  I want to run a BBS that is
well-connected to the INTERNET, but I need other
things out of my PC too...

THANKS!


 * PowerEdit 1.0 Since I've used up my sick leave, I'm calling in dead.



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: steve@rigel.demon.co.uk (Steve Horsley)
Subject: Re: finding Linux help
Reply-To: steve@rigel.demon.co.uk
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 14:58:26 +0000

> >                  alias mount='mount -a'
> > to my /etc/profile file.
> 
> I assume you mean
> 
>         alias man='man -a'

OOPS - this week's wally prize! Yes, I DID mean alias man='man -a'.

Sorry if I confused anyone. They do say you should read your own mail
before you post it. Mistakes like that is why.

-- 
  Steve Horsley                                    steve@rigel.demon.co.uk

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From: rwifall@NMSU.edu (Richard Wifall)
Subject: private mailing list, which list server to use?
Date: 11 May 1994 01:33:24 GMT

I'm looking for suggestions of a good mail list server to use under
linux that would have the following features:

        List members must be added and removed by the moderator.
        The moderator of the list must be able to be a normal user.
(ie no root/wheel privs)

        Thats about it.  Ease of use would of course be a plus.

        Does anyone have experience with using any mail list servers
with linux?  If so, which one would you recommend?

                Thanks,

                        Richard
--
Richard Wifall - rwifall@nmsu.edu

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From: imp@boulder.parcplace.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: Re: Linux in PC Week again (May 9th issue)
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 20:38:06 GMT

In article <2qqvn0$krr@agate.berkeley.edu>
maxims@ucsee.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Maxim Spivak) writes: 
>  Big fixes are also available via the Internet. "I know commercial 
>customers want a vendor they can call," like Novell, said Horton. "I 
>would personally rather post to the [Internet] and get 10 to 12 answers 
>in 10 minutes."

And people wonder why there is a problem with people posting questions
that are FAQ's in the newsgroups.

Sigh.

Warner

-- 
Warner Losh             imp@boulder.parcplace.COM       ParcPlace Boulder
"... but I can't promote you to "Prima Donna" unless you demonstrate a few
 more serious personality disorders"

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From: seit@pc763b.cs.msu.su (Artygalin Seit Sh.)
Subject: Re: Linux and CD-ROMs
Date: 14 May 1994 16:09:57 GMT

Andrew Wilcockson (andreww@cs.su.oz.au) wrote:
: I have the Sound Blaster Pro Discovery Pack and I want to know how
: to get my CD-ROM drive to work with Linux.
:  
[Sorry, message skiped]
: Thanks in advance, Andrew Wilcockson
:
Try to mount CD drive:  
 mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom -t iso9660
   

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From: rwb114@farman.cac.psu.edu (Robert W. Brewer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Raytracing and Linux
Date: 12 May 1994 21:15:31 GMT
Reply-To: rbrewer@psu.edu

Bryan Koen (bkoen@crl.com) wrote in <2qsf5c$oah@crl.crl.com>:
>Are there any raytracing packages avilable for Linux or X?

PoVray works well.  It is available somewhere in the graphics 
directory on ftp.wustl.edu.  Also check comp.graphics.raytracing.

There are also several others, like Rayshade, but I have not personally
used them under linux.  They are probably at wustl too.

-Rob
--
Robert W. Brewer  "Whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him 
rbrewer@psu.edu    will never thirst."  --Jesus Christ (John 4:14)

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From: pi92ae%@pt.hk-r.se (Andy)
Subject: Changing keys for changing VC
Reply-To: pi92ae@pt.hk-r.se
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 16:12:46 GMT

How easy would it be to change keycombination for switching VC's, I am tired of trying 
to do CTRL-ALT-F[n] in a normal VC, and ALT-F[n] in dosemu, and xwindows.

Isn't it time to standardize the console switching, e.g. to ctrl-alt-function key or 
something the like. It would ease up life quite a bit.  

I don't see any reason to why we have to have two ways, when in my eyes one of them 
could do (ctrl-alt)

Could any1 please point me out where to look, and I probably could continue on from 
there.

        /andy 

--
*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*
        http://jupiter.pt.hk-r.se/student/pi92ae/pi92ae.html
*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*NEW*

"Hey, it's a UNIX system! I know this!"
                Lex, Jurassic park.

Apples have been a problem ever since eden.

Don't walk in front of me, I might be unable to follow you.
Don't walk after me, I might be unable to lead you.
Just walk by my side and be my friend.

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From: hanko@wv.mentorg.com (Hank Oredson)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages
Date: 12 May 1994 20:43:57 GMT
Reply-To: Hank_Oredson@mentorg.com

In article <CpoxMB.7BE@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, cms@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Colin Simpson) writes:
|> Extending this conversation a bit further to streets named
|> after any field of computing. 
|> 
|> Is there in Silicon Valley a street called `Disk Drive' ? 

It's in Scotts Valley, CA ... and guess what business is on
that street ... yes, they make disk drives ... 

As I reacll (been five years since I lived there) it is actually

Disc Drive

Someone from Seagate could confirm ...

   ...  Hank

-- 

Hank Oredson @ Mentor Graphics
Internet     : hank_oredson@mentorg.com
Amateur Radio: W0RLI@W0RLI.OR.USA.NOAM

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From: tvo@zaphod.swb.de (Thomas Vogler)
Subject: how to pass values from lilo's menu to /etc/rc.d/rc.local
Date: 13 May 1994 16:05:50 GMT

hi all,

i got a nasty little problem:

me and my users share a Linux PC. each of us wants several possible setups
at boot time, eg. german or us KBD, X11R5 or X11R6, xdm or not, start the X
server or not, and such things. a perfect solution would it be to have a 
choice during bootstrap how to boot the kernel and to pass some options to
init. i know that something like 'linux VAR=VALUE'
can be typed in, and init and the rc procedures will find this VAR in its
environment. but it _IS_ too complicated to remember all possible options
and the chance for typos is high. thus i am searching for a way to put such
values into the lilo config file so that a possible boot choice would be 

        'linux-with-german-keyboard-running-X11R6-under-xdm'

(of course abbreviated to g6)

any help, email prefered, welcome.
--

-- 
thomas vogler, sch"aferweg 25, 64354 reinheim, germany, tvo@zaphod.swb.de, 
phone: +-[49]-(6162)-83754. das telefon schellt und ich bin im keller,
vielleicht nur verw"ahlt, doch ich bin schneller. ich bin der telefonmann,
ich geh immer ran. schubidu... (frei nach helge schneider)

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From: watson@madvax.uwa.edu.au (David Watson)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs)
Date: 11 May 1994 23:48:51 GMT

In article <2qpemg$3nu@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>, acbul1@penfold.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak) writes:
|> [comp.os.linux.announce]
|> 
|> Luuk Spreeuwers - UT (luuk@mi.el.utwente.nl) wrote:
|> : The supplier is:
|> 
|> : Inside Technology
|> : Fortranweg 7
|>   ^^^^^^^^^^
|> : 3821 BK  Amersfoort
|> : Netherlands
|> 
|> A street named after Fortran? How cool!
|> Does anybody know of any other streets named after programming languages?

I guess COBOL cul-de-sac is not a real street


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From: ron@draconia.hacktic.nl (Ron Smits)
Subject: *base system? what would it take
Date: 14 May 1994 17:31:40 GMT

Every so often the question is asked wether there is a dbase (tm) like clone
for Linux or Unix. Apperently there isn't one. mbase is real nice and Ingres
is great (IMHO). I have written some applications using Ingres, and it's nice
to work with. But .. I know that a lot of people would really like it if they
could use there dbase(tm) or clipper(tm) sources in linux/unix.

What would it take and would it be legal to write such a thing. I've written
databases before (albeit simple ones) and I'm definitly not unknown to bigger
projects (It's my job after all). So I would be willing to put some time and
effort in it. If somebody can tell me how it is organized/build up. 

Keywords in a project like this would be:
        compatible with existing dbase(tm) like files
        compatible with language used by dbase(tm), clipper(tm)
        Written in such a way that porting it to other platforms would be 
        feasable.

Is there interest on the Net? and if so are there documents available? and
would it be legal? The last thing I want is to have some compagny on my back
for infringing some copyright/patent or whatever. If such a project is
started I think the result (if any) should be placed under the Gnu Licence
agreements.

--



                Ron Smits
                ron@draconia.hacktic.nl
                Ron.Smits@Netherlands.NCR.COM

/*-( My opinions are my opinions, My boss's opinions are his opinions )-*/
/*-(                They might not be the same                        )-*/

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From: evers@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight M Evers)
Subject: Linux & DEC ALPHAs...
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 21:25:38 GMT

To all those would be porters of Linux to the DEC ALPHA...

        I am not the greatest programmer in the world, bu t I would be a 
bit hessitant none the least about trying it. First, familiarize yourself 
with the problem at hand.

The DEC ALPHA is the fastest production 64bit RISC CPU on the market today.
(aka...VERY VERY BUGGY to those wouldbe software developers. I know of 
those who have tried and failed...its not pretty.)

        Now, as far as the raw power of the damn thing, hold your 
pocketbooks a bit longer folks. There are so few native app's that 
cantruely take advantage of the damn thing that using it for DOOM or 
minesweeper is rediculous. And don't tell me you won't either.

        To J. Paradis who claims to compare the CRAY-1 to the ALPHA...

                SHAME SHAME SHAME on you!!!

The Cray-1 did not have all the clock speed that the ALPHA does, 58mHz is 
what I heard, but it had SMP with shared memory and a solid state disk 
drive that was about 1/2 a gig...not bad for a comp built 10 years ago. 
The raw processing speed of the damn thing was enough to make your head 
spin around so fast that youd look like you were possesed. I was informed 
that over 100 proccesing units were involved in its math core. That would 
make its SPECmark-fp around 500!!! But the thing is about asd freindly as 
a wounded grizzly bear. I don't believe it even ran UNIX!!!

        I use a DEC to perform 3D cad and some solid modeling with 
UNI-GRAPHICS. This is not the kind of thing that I would want to have 
sitting in my house to do WP or 1-2-3 on.

        Trying to use a Ferrari to do the work of a VW will only make 
things worse. I don't want to make it seem as if noone needs a DEC, but 
re-evaluate your needs before putting out the $$$...

Just my 2gig worth.
============================================================================
                        |       "...peace is a thing which a person
Dwight M. Evers         |           must be willing to fight for..."
evers@plains.NoDak.edu  |
        NDSU            |                       -Abe Lincoln
============================================================================


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From: wbirkmai@lynx.dac.neu.edu (William Birkmaier)
Subject: Re: any Mac emulator ?
Date: 14 May 1994 13:58:38 -0400

In article <1994May12.151308.4405@rivers>, ph99jh42@uwrf.edu (JAMES HALL) writes:
> Paloma Calvo (paloma@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
> : Hi all:
> 
> :     Maybe this is the wrong group and maybe this has been posted
> : before. In any case, please forgive me.
> 
> :     My question is: Is there any Macintosh emulator for Linux or,
> : alternatively, can Executor be used under Dosemu ?
> 
> Under Linux, no.  Any takers???

Well, I remember reading that the makers of executor were porting it to
X on unix based machines.



Will

















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From: adam@adam.yggdrasil.com (Adam J. Richter)
Subject: Re: LGX '94 is HERE!!!  (?)
Date: 13 May 1994 23:34:08 GMT

In article <2r0fpt$enb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>,
Byron Thomas Faber <bf11620@ehsn11.cen.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>Ok.. I just got my 'lgx '94 release' notice from Just Computers!.
>
>My questions is:
>
>What's on it? & is it up to date?

        Summer 1994 Plug-and-Play Linux (formerly LGX) has been
shipping since Thursday.  We will submit a product announcement to
comp.os.linux.announce soon.  In the meantime, here is an incomplete
list of new features.  [I have now spent two hours agonizing over how
to arrange this list of features in the official announcement.  I'd be
interested in hearing which features users think are the most
important. --Adam]


                           VERSION NUMBERS

        Linux 1.1 kernel, X11R5 Xfree86 2.1 installed plus pristine
        X11R6 (Xfree86 3.0) tar files, GCC 2.5.8, libc 4.5.26. 


                               FEATURES

INTERNET CONNECTIVITY

        o INTERNET SHELL ACCESS up to 1 month or $40 (about 20 hours)
          with a major New England internet provider.  If you're not
          in New England, you can save on the long distance charges by
          using the CompuServe from most populated areas of the world.
          (CompuServe-Net, AT&T and other phone bills are *not*
          included in the free service).  You must be 18 or older,
          because the service has some "adult" areas.  You must sign
          the credit card authorization for usage after the first
          $40 or first month, although it is perfectly OK to cancel
          after your free time has expired.

        o ET PHONE HOME.  The system automatically delivers internet
          mail through the Yggdrasil BBS!  (Of course, people cannot
          reply to your email.)  The install script even attempts to
          figure out where your modem is.   You must have UUCP
          installed or accessible from the CDROM,, and you must have
          the system installed on your hard disk.  Configuring
          ethernet with the graphical control panel switches
          internet email to direct delivery.  This release should
          make it easy for anyone to send email to the internet.  

        o Graphical control panels for incoming InterNetNews (NNTP),
          outgoing UUCP, and serial internet connections by SLIP or
          CSLIP, preconfigured with sample values, so you just change
          a few fields and press "save."  This should save you a lot
          of time and work if you're connecting to the internet.
          These are in addition to the existing graphical control
          panels.  To illustrate the graphical control panel and
          multimedia email features of the upcoming release, I have
          made some screen snapshots in xwd format FTPable from
          yggdrsail.com:

            X windows screen dumps:
                ftp.yggdrasil.com:pub/pictures/*.xwd
                View with "xwud -in file.xwd"
            GIF files:
                ftp.yggdrasil.com:pub/pictures/*.gif
                View with "display *.gif" (if you use ImageMagic), or
                "xv *.gif" (if you use xv).

          You can also have these images shown on your internet
          color X display by logging into yggdrasil.com as "rdemo".

        o MULTIMEDIA EMAIL.  When you log in as "guest", and start X
          windows, you are reminded to read multimedia email with Andrew
          "messages", which comes preconfigured with a sample
          multimedia email message.  The message includes hyperlinks
          to some documentation and a picture of Saturn.  Multimedia
          email is delivered just like regular email, so you can, for
          example, send mail to the internet and they will be routed
          through the Yggdrasil BBS for delivery.  If you've put off
          learning a multimedia email system, this is an easy way to
          take the plunge. 

PERFORMANCE

        o SCSI clustering, multisector IDE (turned off
          by default).  Most binaries, including the entire X  window
          system, the kernel, the C compiler, and emacs compiled with
          "-O6."  SCSI clustering alone seems to have reduced the build
          time on the source tree on a 486DX2-66 from 28 hours to 22.

        o Cd dependent installation now puts the shared C library and bash
          on the hard disk, accelerating execution of almost all binaries
          and shell scripts.  CD dependent configuration now uses 4MB of
          disk and is actually a bit of a misnomer because you *can* run
          it without the CD mounted, although you will be able to do little
          more than mount the CD.

ARCHITECTUAL IMPROVEMENTS

        o FULLY BUILDABLE SOURCE TREE.  Rebuild the whole system with
          "cd /usr/src ; make install-clean".  Use the new "whence"
           command find source code for a file.  For example:

                % whence csh
                /usr/bin/tcsh: linux dynamically linked
                /usr/bin/tcsh installed from /usr/src/usr.bin/tcsh-6.04/tcsh

        o HYBRID INSTALLATION.  Any software not found on your hard
          disk is run from the CDROM if the CD is mounted.  Useful for
          infrequently used programs or for trying out software before
          deciding whether or not to install it.

        o TRANSPARENT COMPRESSION.  CD looks like a 1GB+ filesystem.

MISCELLANEOUS

        o A response card for a free copy THE LINUX JOURNAL.

        o MOTIF: Locked copy of MetroLink Motif on the CD (also
          available on floppies) costs $149.95 per CPU.  For each copy
          that we sell, $5 is donated to the development of a free
          motif clone.  Ours is the only Linux Motif with a simple
          no-nonsense license statement instead of one of those
          ridiculous shrinkwrap licenses.

PRICE CUT
        o $49.95 --> $39.95.  Reseller prices cut too.

        o Upgrade or crossgrade.  Send us a complete copy of any
          previous Yggdrasil release and deduct another $10 from your 
          order.   Alternatively, deduct $10 if you send us a complete
          copy of any competing product *and* tell us where you bought
          it so that we can make sure that your favorite computer
          store also carries our products.

-- 
Adam J. Richter                     -      --------------   "Free software for
Yggdrasil Computing, Inc.             \  /                   the rest of us."
adam@yggdrasil.com                     || g g d r a s i l
4880 Stevens Creek Blvd., Suite 205    ||  Computing Inc.    (408) 261-6630

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From: yohgaki@cassandra.cair.du.edu (Yasuo Ohgaki)
Subject: Re: Term 115 (beta) is out.
Date: Sat, 14 May 1994 16:43:49 GMT

In article <CpsBvv.J45@du.edu> yohgaki@cassandra.cair.du.edu (Yasuo Ohgaki) writes:
>I've tried term115 on AIX. It still can't compile on AIX. :(
>(I'm using xlc. no gcc on the AIX :(
>
It also can't compile on Ultrix. It dosen't include 
include files. I've got the same error on both AIX
using xlc and ULTRIX using gcc. (2.4.5)

Anyone!??

(BTW, I don't have problem on linux)

-- 
Yasuo Ohgaki    - Please correct me, if I'm wrong.  
e-mail: yohgaki@diana.cair.du.edu 
        yohgaki@cassandra.cair.du.edu

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From: barros@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Jose Acacio de Barros)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs)
Date: 11 May 1994 17:51:05 -0700

In <EIJKHOUT.94May11023235@cupid.cs.utk.edu> eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout) writes:

>In article <2qpemg$3nu@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au> acbul1@penfold.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Bulhak) writes:

>   Does anybody know of any other streets named after programming languages?

>I'm sure you can find streets named after Pascal in France....
>Rue Pascal? Sounds entirely plausible to me.

I'm not sure about France :-) but Rio de Janeiro has an avenue called Pascal. 

Acacio.
-- 
Jose Acacio de Barros - CSLI/Stanford University - barros@csli.stanford.edu

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From: ghein@nevada.edu (GLEN HEIN)
Subject: Looking for a good editor for coding in.
Date: 14 May 1994 19:18:27 GMT

I'm looking for a good editor for coding software in.  I would it to be an 
XWindows app if possible.  Good auto-indenting and color coding would be 
helpful.  If you have a recommendation, please send it to me.  

Thanks,
Glen Hein
ghein@nevada.edu


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From: d1hej@dtek.chalmers.se (Henrik Jonsson)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages
Date: 14 May 1994 19:26:31 GMT

In article <1994May13.014932.32390@hulaw1.harvard.edu>,
Kurt Wm. Hemr, Harvard Law School <hemr@hulaw1.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>Apropos of Commodore's death [Warning: impending topic drift]
>does anyone remember a language called COMAL?  Did this language
>ever exist on a system besides the C64?  If not, any reason why?

It did...In my Highschool we used 'Kompis' computers. Swedish (or
maybe Danish). A 8086-computer, I think...('Kompis' is Swedish for 'pal' or
'friend'.) My guess is that they were designed for education-only since
they were just as dull as education-dedicated computers ought to be...:-)

/Henrik
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From: umlin000@cc.umanitoba.ca (Zhuo Er Lin)
Subject: Re: Term 115 (beta) is out.
Date: 14 May 1994 19:28:13 GMT

In <Cpsx52.1As@du.edu> yohgaki@cassandra.cair.du.edu (Yasuo Ohgaki) writes:

>In article <CpsBvv.J45@du.edu> yohgaki@cassandra.cair.du.edu (Yasuo Ohgaki) writes:
>>I've tried term115 on AIX. It still can't compile on AIX. :(
>>(I'm using xlc. no gcc on the AIX :(
>>
>It also can't compile on Ultrix. It dosen't include 
>include files. I've got the same error on both AIX
>using xlc and ULTRIX using gcc. (2.4.5)

>Anyone!??

>(BTW, I don't have problem on linux)

True !  No problem compiling in Linux. But it can't be compiled
on Sun.
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