Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #106
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Date:     Sat, 14 May 94 03:13:24 EDT

Linux-Misc Digest #106, Volume #2                Sat, 14 May 94 03:13:24 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs) (Barzilai Spinak)
  Interest in a weekly Linux news? (Jeff Tranter)
  Re: recompiling the kernel (David Holland)
  #9GXE PCI & Dell XPS won't work with X? (Tom Bielecki)
  Re: Streets named after programming lang (Richard N. Turner)
  LGX '94 is HERE!!!  (?) (Byron Thomas Faber)
  Re: Why does GW2K P90 fail installation? (Luke M Kaven)
  Multimedia under Linux (Carlos Contreras Bizama)
  Re: How many days to receive InfoMagic ? (Steve Fuller)
  Re: X11R6 Xfree and Motif? (John Kinsella)
  Re: What Does Linus Look Like? (Matt Welsh)
  DIP and dynamic IP's (Daniel J Rabinowitz)
  Comments on SCSI Controller/Drive (Debbie Longhi)
  Auto file name completion with "ESC" key? (Tri Tran)
  Actic GE Ultra+ VLB and XFree2.1.1 still < 85 clk. (mike curtis)
  Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big (Andrew Deckowitz)
  Re: private mailing list, which list server to use? (Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq)
  Re: COMMODORE CALLS IT QUITS (Mat)
  Re: JANA'S NEW TRCIKS! Maybe.. But GENEROUS SUGGESTION as well (Byron A Jeff)
  Re: Is Liunx a standard UNIX? (Ziniu "Michael" Wei)
  Re: A good NFS server ? (Ziniu "Michael" Wei)

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From: barspi@wam.umd.edu (Barzilai Spinak)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming languages (was Re: IRIS frame grabber docs)
Date: 11 May 1994 02:31:59 GMT

In article <2qpemg$3nu@harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au>,
Andrew Bulhak <acbul1@penfold.cc.monash.edu.au> wrote:
>[comp.os.linux.announce]
>
>Luuk Spreeuwers - UT (luuk@mi.el.utwente.nl) wrote:
>: The supplier is:
>
>: Inside Technology
>: Fortranweg 7
>  ^^^^^^^^^^
>: 3821 BK  Amersfoort
>: Netherlands
>
>A street named after Fortran? How cool!
>Does anybody know of any other streets named after programming languages?

  I'm sure there must be many US cities with a C Street.
Oh, I remember theres a street in my country called Asamblea which is
Spanish for Assembly. (But people in Spanish call assembly language "assembly"
or "assembler" anyway, so I don't know if this counts.)

+---------------------------------+
|        Barzilai Spinak          |
|   .....      barspi@wam.umd.edu |
|  (-O-O-)     barspi@eng.umd.edu | 
+nnn--U--nnn----------------------+

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From: tranter@Software.Mitel.COM (Jeff Tranter)
Subject: Interest in a weekly Linux news?
Date: 12 May 94 13:34:30 GMT

I think that Linux Journal is doing a great job, but there is quite a
delay between the time an article is written and the time it appears
in print. Usenet news on the other hand has the latest information,
but many people cannot or will not sift through the 1000+ articles
that appear each week looking for the important ones.

A while back, Lars Wirzenius and later Denise Tree produced a weekly
report on Linux happenings called "Linux News"; it was posted to the
net. I found this very useful, but it stopped sometime around June.

Is there any interest in reviving Linux News or have Linux Journal and
c.o.la. made it obsolete?

Jeff
(copy sent to tree@cs.jhu.edu and wirzeniu@cc.helsinki.fi)
-- 
Jeff Tranter                                            Jeff_Tranter@Mitel.COM
Software Technology
Mitel Corporation, Kanata, Ontario, CANADA

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Subject: Re: recompiling the kernel
From: dholland@husc7.harvard.edu (David Holland)
Date: 13 May 94 03:12:08


<Attribution intentionally omitted...>

 > : I have just recompiled my kernel with the changes I needed.  I am booting
 > : Linux from my HD, where do I need to copy the new kernel to?
 > 
 > Just copy the new kernel to /vmlinuz, assuming that lilo is configured to
 > the same way that mine was originally.  It's probably a good idea to make 
 > a backup of your currect /vmlinuz, just incase!

And DON'T FORGET to rerun the LILO installer!

(Yes, if you copy the new onto the old, without moving it, and the
images are exactly the same size, you'll be ok... probably. But it's
very unwise to depend on this.)

--
   - David A. Holland          | "The right to be heard does not automatically
     dholland@husc.harvard.edu |  include the right to be taken seriously."

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From: bielecki@crl.com (Tom Bielecki)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: #9GXE PCI & Dell XPS won't work with X?
Date: 13 May 1994 14:52:03 -0700

 I have a Dell XPS Pentium-60mhz system with the XFree server 2.0.
My XConfig is setup correctly for my #9GXE PCI card, except
95% of the time I bootup linux, X refuses to load any type 
of graphics other than the frame of windows. That is, an
iconoified object just shows the outline of what it should be,
lacking all color and graphics inside, XView, display, etc
just show blank voids when I try to load a bitmap. And, most
annoyingly, windows overlapping each other do not seem to be
doing SaveUnder and BackingStore calls, such that the windows
form a mosh posh of color and graphics where they overlay. I've
heard several others complaing about the Dell XPS systems
doing exactly the same thing, anyone have a clue or fix to
this??? The other 5% it works perfectly upon bootup.



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From: rnturn@delphi.com (Richard N. Turner)
Crossposted-To: alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Streets named after programming lang
Date: 13 May 1994 23:45:31 GMT

>Is there in Silicon Valley a street called `Disk Drive' ?  
> 
>Someone once told me this but it sounds bogus to me (But I'll
>be very happy to be proved wrong).
 
Hmm... It's not on my map but then it's centered on on San Jose and leaves
out most of Palo Alto.  Maybe Disk Drive is a little further West or
South than my map or it's a new street (like Apple's "Infinite Loop"
mentioned in another post) or you were right about the bogosity of what your
friend told you.

Wonder if Seagate or some other disk manufacturer has named their driveway
like companies are wont to do...these names often won't make it onto a map.
They drive the post office crazy too since they're not official addresses
and a lot of mail sometimes comes to these "vanity" addresses.


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From: bf11620@ehsn11.cen.uiuc.edu (Byron Thomas Faber)
Subject: LGX '94 is HERE!!!  (?)
Date: 13 May 1994 18:10:05 GMT

Ok.. I just got my 'lgx '94 release' notice from Just Computers!.

My questions is:

What's on it? & is it up to date?

Byron Faber
-- 
`Playing this disk at loud volume may permanently damage your speakers or
other sound components.'                                -LFO
                                b-faber@uiuc.edu

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From: lmk6@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Luke M Kaven)
Subject: Re: Why does GW2K P90 fail installation?
Date: 11 May 1994 21:44:44 GMT

Further word on this is that the CMOS PROM reports the correct
geometry for the Conner 540MB IDE drive.  The problem is that
(hd.c) reports incorrectly that the drive has 32 heads and
then gives up on it.  

1) Is there a problem with the PCI IDE controller in the Gateway 2000?
Pentium system?

2) Is there some way I can use a LILO command to respecify the 
geometry to the correct parameters during boot up?

We are using a Slackware release (current as of last week).
PLEASE help...people around here really don't think Linux will
work, and I don't want to prove them correct.  But I am completely
at a loss for where to go from here.  [I was smart enough to get
the ATI-GUP rather than the MATROX, but I didn't know what to do
about the disk controller and the disk.]

Signed, Desperate Linux Supporter

Center for Advanced Biotechnology and Medicine
Rutgers University


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From: ccontrer@aguila.dpi.udec.cl (Carlos Contreras Bizama)
Subject: Multimedia under Linux
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 23:14:21 GMT

Hi, wrote Carlos Contreras Bizama

   Want to know where find a FAQ or some address in order to find 
   program of Multimedia that execute under Linux.

                        Thanks in advance for the help!

P.S.: Excuse my English please it speak very although say.

Carlos.

E-mail : ccontrer@aguila.dpi.udec.cl   or,
         ccontrer@halcon.dpi.udec.cl


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From: sfuller@picard.infonet.net (Steve Fuller)
Subject: Re: How many days to receive InfoMagic ?
Date: 11 May 1994 02:38:37 GMT

felt@mines.u-nancy.fr (Thierry FELT) writes:

>       How many days between ordering the LINUX 2CDs set from 
>InfoMagic and receiving it ????
>       
I ordered mine on a Tuesday wth Visa and had them in my hot little hands by 
Friday (they shipped US Priority mail) for a total of $26. They worked great. 
The person that wrote the CD install script for Slackware should be given a 6 
pack of fine dark beer as thanks. It Looks and WORKS slick.

I still haven't gotten used to the fact that I don't have to DIAL IN to get 
stuff from the archives.


-- 
Steve Fuller                              I will choose the path that's clear
sfuller@ins.infonet.net                   I will choose freewill  -- N. Peart
INS Info Services Support Staff 


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From: ez020772@othello.ucdavis.edu (John Kinsella)
Subject: Re: X11R6 Xfree and Motif?
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 22:22:36 GMT

Frank Strauss (strauss@dagoba.priconet.de) wrote:
| For people who want to try: You need 110MB for sources, 50MB for
| building and at least 30MB (I cannot build the whole thing) for
| installation.

110 megs?  Soooo...who wants to build this and toss it up somewhere?8)

John
_____________________________                            
History was written by women \ John L. Kinsella<ez020772@othello.ucdavis.edu>
baby, so let's make a little  \ University of California, Davis
of our own tonight             \ finger either account for pgp public key!
            -Thrill Kill Kult   \ (also jlkinsel@engr.ucdavis.edu)
                                 --------------------------------------------

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From: mdw@cs.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: What Does Linus Look Like?
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 02:29:31 GMT

In article <1994May10.194640.29983@midway.uchicago.edu> chan@alfrothul.uchicago.edu (Go-Captain Suzdal) writes:
>Now that we can download Mr. Torvalds pronouncing "Linux",
>we can all find out what he sounds like.
>
>But for those of us who haven't the resources to attend
>European conferences, can some describe what Mr. T. looks
>like?

He's a large, muscular man with earrings and a mean-looking mohawk.
Didn't you ever see the A Team?

Oh, you mean Mr. Torvalds?

For those of you with WWW access, the URL
        http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/torvalds.html
as the 3 classic GIFs of Linus, in full party mode. Someone sent
me a pointer to another picture of Linus, sans beer, and I'll add
that in soon.

mdw
-- 
Subvert the Dominant Paradigm. Use Linux.

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From: djr@pion.rutgers.edu (Daniel J Rabinowitz)
Subject: DIP and dynamic IP's
Date: 12 May 94 19:08:33 GMT


        Right now I'm running DIP and retrieving my dynamically
allocated IP address by hand.  What's the best way to do this
automatically?

BTW, I'm using the default dip 3.3.7 program which came with
Slackware.

-dan
djr@physics.rutgers.edu

-- 
===============================================================================
             <a href="http://electron.rutgers.edu/~djr/">
            Daniel J Rabinowitz -- djr@physics.rutgers.edu      </a>
                 Department of Physics, Rutgers University

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From: longhid@kudzu.cnidr.org (Debbie Longhi)
Subject: Comments on SCSI Controller/Drive
Date: 8 May 1994 23:35:27 GMT

Hi fellow Linuxers,

I'm about to purchase a SCSI controller and drive and I'd like to know
if anyone has had trouble or success with either.  But I'm more interested
in the problems you've encountered.

Controller:
  Future Domain 1680   Product/Manufacturer's code: FT1680INS

which I think is supported according to the SCSI docs

and alternatively if there is trouble with the above card, a
Qlogic Fast SCSI-II   Product/Manu code: Fast SCSI ISA/FL

And now for the drive:

a 1750MB 10ms Micropolis SCSI drive model MC2217S

or if funds run out a
1050MB 10ms Micropolis SCSI drive model MC2210S

Both drives are supposed to support SCSI-II interface.

Just thought I'd ask before I waste my money.  Thanks for the input,
it's greatly appreciated.


D

--
Debbie Longhi                           longhid@kudzu.cnidr.org
Computer Analyst                        (800) 672-5905
Home Health Agency of Chapel Hill       Direct: (919) 918-2146
1101 Weaver Dairy Road                  Fax (919) 929-1344
Chapel Hill, NC  27514


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From: tran@f18sun5.nwc.navy.mil (Tri Tran)
Subject: Auto file name completion with "ESC" key?
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 17:58:36 GMT

Could someone tell me why I can't complete the file name that
I want to type by hitting the "ESC" under linux?  Is there a 
special program/setup that I need to enable/run.  Sorry if this
is a trivial faq question.

Tri

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From: slack@mail-hub.interpath.net (mike curtis)
Subject: Actic GE Ultra+ VLB and XFree2.1.1 still < 85 clk.
Date: 11 May 1994 03:24:34 GMT

I just installed XFree 2.1.1.  I have an Actix Graphics Engine Ultra Plus VLB 
2Meg 928, Brooktree 485 DAC.  When I run XFree I am still limited to a 85 dot
clock?  In the readme, it mentions other 928- 485 DAC that are now supported.
Any idea what the problem with my card is?  I does have a 130 dot clock, but
XFree will not let me use one above 85.  Any help would be appreciated. 




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From: andydeck@MCS.COM (Andrew Deckowitz)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big
Date: 14 May 1994 00:04:58 -0500

talvola@fennel.berkeley.edu (Erik Talvola) writes:


>I'm not sure what people think the problem is here.  "Linux" is a collection
>of programs.  The kernel is GPL, and Novell would have to provide source code
>for it.  However, if they take the Linux kernel, and add some of their own
>applications to it (from the original article, it sounds like this is their
>plan), and sell it for whatever (the article mentioned about $100 I think),
>there is no problem at all.  Many major pieces of Linux are not GPL programs,
>like X11 for example.

>I hope Novell continues with the project.  Getting commercial support of
>Linux from a large company like Novell would likely stabilize the kernel
>quickly.

>--
>+-----------------------------+
>! Erik Talvola                | "It's just what we need... a colossal negative 
>! erikt@psi.prc.com          | space wedgie of great power coming right at us
>! talvola@gnu.ai.mit.edu      | at warp speed." -- Star Drek

I too do not see a problem with Novell creating a GUI for Linux.  But I
do have to add a guffaw at the thought of Novell's support actually
adding value to Linux development.  At this time, Novell developer
support is somewhat of a standing joke.  Being an optimist, I do have
high hopes for Novell's new Enterprise Support Division.  Unfortunately
I am also a cynical realist, and expect to be disappointed.

And as if this thread is not already twisted enough...


What do you all think of Novell's plans to port ALL of Netware to *nix
platforms, as announced recently?  InfoWorld, May 9, page 1:

(quoted w/o permission)
 Novell Inc. intends to port NetWare's Key services - including file
 print, imaging, and directory - to Unix, by late next year and
 eventually to all platforms, according to company officials.

Summary: first they will port to UnixWare, then they will produce
operating-system independent services to allow NetWare features on
non-NetWare operating systems.

Of course these ports will not be free, but I am not adverse to paying
for quality.  And on a related note, any word on a commercial x-server
for Matrox video cards using the MGA chipset?

-- 
 Andy Deckowitz  |   Network Administrator   |The Crystal Wind is the
andydeck@mcs.com |Direct Marketing Technology|Storm, and the Storm is
andydeck@aol.com |   andyd%dmt@mcimail.com   |Data, and the Data is Life
GCS -d+ -p+ c++++(++) l u e*(-) m+@ s/+ n- h*(+) f?/- g+ w+ t+ r++ y+(*)
These are MY opinions, who else would want them?

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From: fekete@bcuxs2.bc.edu (Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq)
Subject: Re: private mailing list, which list server to use?
Date: 13 May 1994 23:33:23 GMT

Try procmail - the greatest mail-handler, with ready-made scripts for
listserver functionality that can be run from any non-proviliged
account; very costumazible and easy to use!

-- Zoli, happy listadmin

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development
From: mflt_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mat)
Subject: Re: COMMODORE CALLS IT QUITS
Date: Wed, 11 May 94 03:23:44 GMT

In <2qp36f$r5d@wea.eel.ufl.edu> acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin) writes:

>ahead of their time in 1985 (I had an A1000), when CGA was still
>considered high resolution, but it's a pity Commodore kind of let them
>die out...


Hmmmm.  you obviously haven't seen the A4000- nothing "CGA" about that
machine--- it also runs pretty well.  (quickly)

Mat Felthousen
(Running Linux 1.0 on a 486-33 and a 486DLC-40)
mflt_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
-- 
Mat Felthousen
Chairman, Computer Interest Floor
mflt_cif x40227

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From: byron@cc.gatech.edu (Byron A Jeff)
Subject: Re: JANA'S NEW TRCIKS! Maybe.. But GENEROUS SUGGESTION as well
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 04:29:50 GMT

In article <2qn16n$g5p@xmission.xmission.com>,
vir@45acp.slip.com <vir@xmission.com> wrote:
>Bruno Cornec (cornec@stna.dgac.fr) wrote:
>: In article <1994May5.223150.13575@resonex.com>, zenon@resonex.com (Zenon Fortuna) writes:
>: > And I have received the InfoMagic's 2-CDROM April's edition today.
>: > I am VERY SATISFIED with the contents: 

>       Same here, received mine in the mail while I was at InterOP.
>       Just had time to browse it but it looks good.  I have their
>       Fall'93 release and I was pleased.  No hassles, no problem.

I picked up the set from a local distributor on Monday. These CD's are
so useful I'm now trying to scrounge up another CDROM at work so I can
keep both mounted all the time. 

The first day out I did a flawless Slackware installation using the CD
in a Sun an downloadling via the network.

Applications, documentation, man pages are all available.

Excellent job, Infomagic.

BAJ
---
Another random extraction from the mental bit stream of...
Byron A. Jeff - PhD student operating in parallel!
Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332   Internet: byron@cc.gatech.edu

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From: ziniuwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ziniu "Michael" Wei)
Subject: Re: Is Liunx a standard UNIX?
Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 16:12:43 GMT

H. Peter Anvin N9ITP (hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu) wrote:

> X/Open, which recently got the rights to the UNIX trademark, have a
> new specification out that is a *superset* of POSIX.  An X/Open
                                                        ^^^^^^^^^
> compliant OS should be POSIX compliant as well.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Typo?  

should be "A POSIX compliant should be X/OPEN compliant as well"

--
Ziniu Wei               CEDAR, SUNY at Buffalo       ziniuwei@cs.buffalo.edu
~{@O3LPrT1S@T62;K@#,K{CGV;JGLx5=PB5D5XV7~}
Old programmers never die, they just branch to a new address.

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc,comp.unix.unixware,comp.unix.solaris
From: ziniuwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ziniu "Michael" Wei)
Subject: Re: A good NFS server ?
Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 16:47:07 GMT

Geoff Rehmet (csgr@cs.ru.ac.za) wrote:

> I've been running a FreeBSD system as a NFS server for a while (serving
> a few FreeBSD and Linux systems).  We also have Suns here acting as NFS
> servers.  I've found that generally a 486DX33 with an SMC Elite NIC and
> Adaptec SCSI performs about as well as a Sun IPC for an NFS server.  If

Is it IPC you're talking about?  I don't have experience using IPC as
file server, 'cause it's damn slow.  IPX is much better.  I'm curious
that why a 486DX33 only compares with an IPC.

--
Ziniu Wei               CEDAR, SUNY at Buffalo       ziniuwei@cs.buffalo.edu
~{@O3LPrT1S@T62;K@#,K{CGV;JGLx5=PB5D5XV7~}
Old programmers never die, they just branch to a new address.

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