Subject: Linux-Development Digest #3
From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:13:06 EDT

Linux-Development Digest #3, Volume #2            Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:13:06 EDT

Contents:
  Re: SLIP, CSLIP, PPP and modems (Al Longyear)
  PCI SCSI Cards commpatable with Linux? (Jean-Paul Chia)
  Re: bug problem CDROM 1.1.31-37 kernels (Martin Koch)
  Re: Kernel change summary 1.1.19 -> 1.1.20 (Jered Floyd)
  Re: 1.1.38 broken from PCI/Pentium (Laurent Chemla)
  Re: DOSEMU 0.53: Developers and testers needed! (Greg Harewood)
  How much hardware for Modula-3 on Linux? (Dan Connolly)
  How much hardware for Modula-3 on Linux? (Dan Connolly)
  Re: As; The GNU assembler docs {Q} (Tim Smith)

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From: longyear@netcom.com (Al Longyear)
Subject: Re: SLIP, CSLIP, PPP and modems
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 05:09:36 GMT

graphix@iastate.edu (Kent A Vander Velden) writes:

>>2. How to hangup the phone line on an incoming call without closing the
>>   device? I need this for a callback solution to prevent mgetty from
>>   claiming the line again and eventually allowing an incoming call on it.

>I would be interested in hearing the solution to problem number 2 also.

Use the function ioctl(fd, TIOCMBIC, TIOCM_DTR) to drop the DTR
signal. This will usually do the job. Use ioctl(fd, TIOCMBIS, TIOCM_DTR) to
re-enable the DTR signal.

-- 
Al Longyear           longyear@netcom.com

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From: jpchia@iinet.com.au (Jean-Paul Chia)
Subject: PCI SCSI Cards commpatable with Linux?
Date: 8 Aug 1994 17:15:47 +0800

Does anyone know which PCI SCSI Cards are compatable with Linux?
If your running Linux successfully with a PCI SCSI card please mail
me. :)
Thanks..
- JP

--
        Jean-Paul Chia                      TheWiz @ IRC
        Drasnian Technologies,  Perth, Western Australia
        PH +61-9-447-6261             FAX +61-9-447-4098
        jean-paul@drasnia.it.com.au, jpchia@iinet.com.au


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From: nick@dali.uni-paderborn.de (Martin Koch)
Subject: Re: bug problem CDROM 1.1.31-37 kernels
Date: 7 Aug 1994 13:52:21 +0200

BARRY TITMARSH <BTITMARS@ESOC.BITNET> writes:

>Ok im in the process of back traceing with kernel versions to the point
>that the scsi cdrom drivers are broken.
>so far 1.1.28 with its inverted mount ie mount /dev/scd0 and you mount
>scd1 on a 2 cdrom system. and mount scd1 and you mount scd0.. etc..
>thats was a know fault.. but you can mount the devices. ;-))

>Ok with 1.1.35,36,37 '-( i cant mount cdroms from scsi at all.
>i get

>mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom-0
The option -r (readonly) is missing. This is required since 1.1.34 (i am not
quite sure).

>gives me....
>mount: Block device /dev/scd0 is not permitted on its filesystem
>and
>mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd1 /cdrom-1
>gives me....
>mount: Block device /dev/scd1 is not permitted on its filesystem
dito
>so idears ? please..

>Barry..

>Compiled in is: isofs and scsi+cdrom
>my other system running config is not affected as my cdrom is
>non-scsi and that works. ok.

>there is no /var/adm/syslog entries. jsu the above message on the console
---
Bye ;-)
==============Escape the Gates of Hell, use Linux==========
       Martin Koch ---  email : nick@uni-paderborn.de
==================Finger me for my PGP=Key=================
Everyone's a foreigner - nearly everywhere  

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From: jjfloyd@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jered Floyd)
Subject: Re: Kernel change summary 1.1.19 -> 1.1.20
Date: 7 Aug 1994 03:05:05 GMT

Kent A Vander Velden (graphix@iastate.edu) wrote:
: >I don't think it's *that* kind of load balancing.  It seems to be
: >related to the Ethernet device queues.

: Could someone explain what "load balancing" actually is?

I think the "that kind of load balancing" is basically a cross between
pre-emptive and co-operative multitasking, where everyone gets the same
timeslice, but a process can donate it's timeslot if it doesn't need it.
(Or the OS can decide that that process doesn't need the timeslice.)

--
Jered Floyd - jjfloyd@vela.acs.oakland.edu
Geek Code 2.1 - GAT d? H- s-:- g- p? !au a-- w+ v+ C++++ UL++++ P+ L++
N+++ K+++ W++ M-- V-- -po+ Y++ tv+ 5+++ j++ R v++ b+++ D+++ B--- e* u**
h++ f? r? n- !y+ (Finger for PGP key, picture, humor anOUT OF SPACE

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From: chemla@cnam.cnam.fr (Laurent Chemla)
Subject: Re: 1.1.38 broken from PCI/Pentium
Date: 8 Aug 1994 09:59:02 GMT

James Norton (jamesnor@clark.net) wrote:
: I have an 60Mhz Pentium with an Intel motherboard.  I have not been able 
: to get patches 38, 39, or 40 to boot.  I have tried compiling the kernel 
: using gcc 2.5.8 and 2.6.0.  They both compile the kernel fine.  But when 
: I try to boot the kernel, I get a message like "Booting the kernel now."  
: Then nothing.  Does anyone have an idea how to fix the kernel?  I have 
: not made any changes to the code on my own.  I am using 
: linux-1.1.35.tar.gz as my original source files and applied patches 36  
: through 40 without any rejects.

: Jim Norton
: jamesnor@clark.net

--
Same thing here, and since my last message about that problem I
received Emails from other people having the same hang on PCI P60
motherboards.
I discovered that if I comment out the code that tries to detect the
PCI service directory, the kernel does work (bios32.c lines 106 to
130).

Mother board Intel Baby AT P60, booting with loadlin on an SCSI drive
on a 1542 card. Everything works fine if I don't use those PCI adds. I
didn't try 1.1.40 yet but those facts are true until 1.1.39.

--
Laurent Chemla : chemla@cnam.cnam.fr or laurent@brasil.frmug.fr.net
Brasil BBS  - +33 1 44 67 08 44 -  Atari France developpers support

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From: gjh@ukc.ac.uk (Greg Harewood)
Subject: Re: DOSEMU 0.53: Developers and testers needed!
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 94 09:41:03 GMT
Reply-To: gjh@ukc.ac.uk (Greg Harewood)

In article <Ctz1Jp.2q9@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>,
Mark Rejhon <mdrejhon@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>For those that have read my previous message about getting DOSEMU
>development versions.  (If you haven't, please do.  Those DOSEMU
>versions work with the newest kernels now)
>
...
>One of the things we want to do is get Windows 3.1 working in DOSEMU.
>A person on the team wants to get BC++ 3.0 working, while another wants
>the DOOM video game to work.   This is very difficult because all this 
>would be helped by "VCPI" support and better "DPMI" support.

Yup...

>Some of these tasks require very tricky stuff like instruction
>emulation, kernel modification (to get access to the CPU for protected
>instructions), and more.  A person named Lutz Mologedy is doing some

Why do you need kernel modifications? I'm no great expert but I thought the
idea of emulation was that you never needed the real thing - you emulate
the hardware and the firmware and surely protected mode too.

Isn't it just a case of intercepting the signals for memory violations and
illegal instructions and then emulating them?

>of this, but he is very busy.

Greg

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From: connolly@hal.com (Dan Connolly)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.modula3,austin.forsale
Subject: How much hardware for Modula-3 on Linux?
Date: 08 Aug 1994 07:21:31 GMT


I am interested in developing distributed hypermedia applications --
WWW clients, servers; experimenting with data formats, protocols, and
user interfaces.

After a casual but fairly thorough search of the available/unavailable
development tools and platforms, (DCE, X windows, tk/tcl, python,
perl, wafe, X11R6, C++, fresco, Windows 4, Windows NT, NeXTStep,
OLE2.0, OpenDoc, Corba, Bento, Dylan, schem48, Common Lisp, CLOS,
Motif) I have decided that Modula-3 and Linux will best suit my
purposes. I think.

Over the last week, I managed to get a hodge-podge Linux installation
going on my hodge-podge PC. I just managed to get the X server
running, but none too quick.

I am seeking information about how various hardware upgrades will
affect the performance of this box for this purpose.

I am also seeking bids from folks with hardware to sell me
(particularly folks in Austin with disk drives, CD rom drives, and
tape backup systems -- perhaps even a motherboard).

I'm almost ready to send $2.5 grand to the guys in california who sell
packaged linux workstations, but I've decided that "getting there is
half the fun," and I'd rather put the thing together myself. After
all, ever since I gave up OS/9 on my Radio Shack color computer for a
Macintosh, I miss OS hacking! (why didn't Apple use OS/9 68k? I bet
they're regretting ever letting apps run in supervisor mode these
days!)

Success stories from M3-on-linux users are also welcome.

I have a an AST Cupid motherboard 486DX with 16MB RAM, 80MB (!) of
disk, and a VGA display of unknown origin. See below for gory details.

A recent article in Computer Shopper summarized PC performance issues
nicely: the three subsystems are CPU/memory, Disk, and Video. I guess
he left out networking. Along those lines, my theory is:

        CPU/memory: I'm OK here. Perhaps I could use some cache
        memory (anybody know how to find out if I've already got
        some? I have this funky Cupid motherboard, where the
        CPU and memory are on an ISA card...) I'll eventually
        want more RAM and a higher clock speed, but who doesn't?

        DISK: Critical need here. I think a 540MB
        IDE disk would suffice for a while, though I wonder if I should get
        a SCSI disk. I am still very unclear about the stability
        of SCSI devices on linux. How much disk does a full-blown
        M3 installation use? I want everything, including
        visual-obliq, and source for everything.

        VIDEO: XFree86 configuration is deep voodoo magic. I got the
        generic 16bit server running, and perhaps that's the best
        I'm gonna get out of this hardware, but I don't even know.
        I also don't know how much video performance I can get from
        an ISA card. Do I need localbus video? What exactly is SVGA?

        NETWORK: I've got a 14.4 USRobotic Sportster. ftp over
        term is cool and works, but I don't relish the thought of
        sucking the whole M3 distribution through that skinny pipe.
        But until this diversion starts generating some serious
        revenue, I don't see an ISDN connection in the near future.
        Anybody have any success with AFS or Alex over PPP or slip?

Given the amount of software available for <$50 on CD ROM, and my low
bandwidth connection to the net, I'm pretty sold on the idea of a CD
rom drive too. To SCSI or not to SCSI, that again, is the question.

And I'll probably want a tape backup device. Again: SCSI?

I'm currently running various parts of Slackware 2.0 -- I was running
their 1.0.9 kernel, but I had to reconfigure and recompile it to get
my mouse to work. Anybody want to suggest a kernel? 1.1.36?

How stable is gcc 2.6.0? 2.5.8 works like a champ, and I've heard
some problem reports about 2.6. But 2.5.8 won't compile Fresco,
and I'd like to check it out in more detail.

Anyway...

Here's what "syscheck.exe" says about my system:

           Advanced Personal Systems  SYSCHK Information Printout
               Friday,  Aug. 5, 1994  Version: 2.39
PROCESSOR-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                               Model: AST Premium
                           Processor: 80486DX-33 MHz  
                         Coprocessor: Internal
             Extended BIOS data area: No
                  DMA Channel 3 used: No
                  Slave 8259 Present: Yes
                     Real Time Clock: Yes
                        I/O Bus Type: ISA (Industry Standard Architecture)
SYSTEM BIOS---------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Source: AST Research   Version: Not Found 
                                Date: 11/06/90
                     BIOS Extensions: Segment        Copyright
                                      C000-C5FF  AST Research, Inc.
                                      C680-C7FF  Unknown
INPUT/OUTPUT--------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Keyboard: 101 Key Enhanced
              Mouse Driver Installed: No
                      Parallel Ports: 1
                                      Device   Base Addr.   Interrupt
                                      LPT1        378h        IRQ ?
                        Serial Ports: 2
                                      Device   Base Addr.   Interrupt    UART
                                      COM1        3F8h        IRQ 4     16550A 
                                      COM2        2F8h        IRQ 3     16450  
HARD DISK DRIVES----------------------------------------------------------------
    Disk #   Tracks  Heads  Sectors   Size    CMOS     Controller
    ------   ------  -----  ------- --------  ----   ---------------
    Disk 1     745      4     28     40.74 MB  36Unknown
    Disk 2     805      4     26     40.88 MB  23    Conner Peripherals 40MB - P
LOGICAL DRIVES------------------------------------------------------------------
    Drive     Total          Used          Free       Volume Name
    -----   ----------    ----------    ----------    ------------
      C:      31.90 MB      31.45 MB       0.45 MB     VOLUME 1
      D:       8.66 MB       3.32 MB       5.34 MB
OTHER DISKS---------------------------------------------------------------------
                       Floppy Disk 1: 1.44 MB 3+"
                       Floppy Disk 2: 1.2 MB 5,"
VIDEO---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        Active Video: VGA + Analog Color Monitor
                         BIOS Source: AST Research, Inc.               
MEMORY--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 Conventional Memory: 640 KB  (576 KB Free)
                     Extended Memory: 15360 KB  (0 KB Free)
                     Expanded Memory: None
RESIDENT PROGRAMS---------------------------------------------------------------
Lower Memory Block
                    Mem Segmt Size  Type         Owner Name 
                    --------- ---- ------- ----------------------
                    025B-0873 24K  Config  DOS 5.0 kernel
                    0874-0878 1K   Resrved DOS 5.0 kernel
                    0879-090D 2K   Shell   COMMAND.COM
                    090E-0912 1K   Free    DOS 
                    0913-0923 1K   Sys Env COMMAND.COM
                    0924-0928 1K   Free    DOS 
                    0929-1012 27K  TSR     SMARTDRV
                    1013-101C 1K   Envnmnt SYSC
                    101D-9FFF 575K Free    DOS Available Memory
ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES-----------------------------------------------------------
                    COMSPEC=C:\COMMAND.COM
                    PATH=D:\WINWORD;C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS;C:\UT;E...
                    ...:\NU
                    NU=E:\NU
                    TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
INTERRUPTS----------------------------------------------------------------------
                    IRQ #    Active            Device Name          
                    -----    ------   ------------------------------
                    IRQ0      Yes     System Timer
                    IRQ1      Yes     Keyboard
                    IRQ2      Yes     Cascade->IRQ9
                    IRQ3      Yes     COM2
                    IRQ4      Yes     COM1
                    IRQ5      No      Open
                    IRQ6      Yes     Floppy Disk Controller
                    IRQ7      No      Open
                    IRQ8      Yes     Real-Time Clock
                    IRQ9      Yes     IRQ2->Cascade
                    IRQ10     No      Open
                    IRQ11     No      Open
                    IRQ12     No      Open
                    IRQ13     Yes     80486 (Math Coprocessor)
                    IRQ14     Yes     Unknown                    
                    IRQ15     No      Open
SPEED---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Throughput Speed: 92.33 MHz
                     CPU Clock Speed: 33 MHz  


p.s. Please forgive the crosspost. I hope to contribute something in
return for any information sent by you generous folks out there...
--
Daniel W. Connolly        "We believe in the interconnectedness of all things"
Software Engineer, Hal Software Systems, OLIAS project   (512) 834-9962 x5010
<connolly@hal.com>                   http://www.hal.com/%7Econnolly/index.html

------------------------------

From: connolly@hal.com (Dan Connolly)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.modula3,austin.forsale
Subject: How much hardware for Modula-3 on Linux?
Date: 08 Aug 1994 07:21:12 GMT


I am interested in developing distributed hypermedia applications --
WWW clients, servers; experimenting with data formats, protocols, and
user interfaces.

After a casual but fairly thorough search of the available/unavailable
development tools and platforms, (DCE, X windows, tk/tcl, python,
perl, wafe, X11R6, C++, fresco, Windows 4, Windows NT, NeXTStep,
OLE2.0, OpenDoc, Corba, Bento, Dylan, schem48, Common Lisp, CLOS,
Motif) I have decided that Modula-3 and Linux will best suit my
purposes. I think.

Over the last week, I managed to get a hodge-podge Linux installation
going on my hodge-podge PC. I just managed to get the X server
running, but none too quick.

I am seeking information about how various hardware upgrades will
affect the performance of this box for this purpose.

I am also seeking bids from folks with hardware to sell me
(particularly folks in Austin with disk drives, CD rom drives, and
tape backup systems -- perhaps even a motherboard).

I'm almost ready to send $2.5 grand to the guys in california who sell
packaged linux workstations, but I've decided that "getting there is
half the fun," and I'd rather put the thing together myself. After
all, ever since I gave up OS/9 on my Radio Shack color computer for a
Macintosh, I miss OS hacking! (why didn't Apple use OS/9 68k? I bet
they're regretting ever letting apps run in supervisor mode these
days!)

Success stories from M3-on-linux users are also welcome.

I have a an AST Cupid motherboard 486DX with 16MB RAM, 80MB (!) of
disk, and a VGA display of unknown origin. See below for gory details.

A recent article in Computer Shopper summarized PC performance issues
nicely: the three subsystems are CPU/memory, Disk, and Video. I guess
he left out networking. Along those lines, my theory is:

        CPU/memory: I'm OK here. Perhaps I could use some cache
        memory (anybody know how to find out if I've already got
        some? I have this funky Cupid motherboard, where the
        CPU and memory are on an ISA card...) I'll eventually
        want more RAM and a higher clock speed, but who doesn't?

        DISK: Critical need here. I think a 540MB
        IDE disk would suffice for a while, though I wonder if I should get
        a SCSI disk. I am still very unclear about the stability
        of SCSI devices on linux. How much disk does a full-blown
        M3 installation use? I want everything, including
        visual-obliq, and source for everything.

        VIDEO: XFree86 configuration is deep voodoo magic. I got the
        generic 16bit server running, and perhaps that's the best
        I'm gonna get out of this hardware, but I don't even know.
        I also don't know how much video performance I can get from
        an ISA card. Do I need localbus video? What exactly is SVGA?

        NETWORK: I've got a 14.4 USRobotic Sportster. ftp over
        term is cool and works, but I don't relish the thought of
        sucking the whole M3 distribution through that skinny pipe.
        But until this diversion starts generating some serious
        revenue, I don't see an ISDN connection in the near future.
        Anybody have any success with AFS or Alex over PPP or slip?

Given the amount of software available for <$50 on CD ROM, and my low
bandwidth connection to the net, I'm pretty sold on the idea of a CD
rom drive too. To SCSI or not to SCSI, that again, is the question.

And I'll probably want a tape backup device. Again: SCSI?

I'm currently running various parts of Slackware 2.0 -- I was running
their 1.0.9 kernel, but I had to reconfigure and recompile it to get
my mouse to work. Anybody want to suggest a kernel? 1.1.36?

How stable is gcc 2.6.0? 2.5.8 works like a champ, and I've heard
some problem reports about 2.6. But 2.5.8 won't compile Fresco,
and I'd like to check it out in more detail.

Anyway...

Here's what "syscheck.exe" says about my system:

           Advanced Personal Systems  SYSCHK Information Printout
               Friday,  Aug. 5, 1994  Version: 2.39
PROCESSOR-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                               Model: AST Premium
                           Processor: 80486DX-33 MHz  
                         Coprocessor: Internal
             Extended BIOS data area: No
                  DMA Channel 3 used: No
                  Slave 8259 Present: Yes
                     Real Time Clock: Yes
                        I/O Bus Type: ISA (Industry Standard Architecture)
SYSTEM BIOS---------------------------------------------------------------------
                              Source: AST Research   Version: Not Found 
                                Date: 11/06/90
                     BIOS Extensions: Segment        Copyright
                                      C000-C5FF  AST Research, Inc.
                                      C680-C7FF  Unknown
INPUT/OUTPUT--------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Keyboard: 101 Key Enhanced
              Mouse Driver Installed: No
                      Parallel Ports: 1
                                      Device   Base Addr.   Interrupt
                                      LPT1        378h        IRQ ?
                        Serial Ports: 2
                                      Device   Base Addr.   Interrupt    UART
                                      COM1        3F8h        IRQ 4     16550A 
                                      COM2        2F8h        IRQ 3     16450  
HARD DISK DRIVES----------------------------------------------------------------
    Disk #   Tracks  Heads  Sectors   Size    CMOS     Controller
    ------   ------  -----  ------- --------  ----   ---------------
    Disk 1     745      4     28     40.74 MB  36Unknown
    Disk 2     805      4     26     40.88 MB  23    Conner Peripherals 40MB - P
LOGICAL DRIVES------------------------------------------------------------------
    Drive     Total          Used          Free       Volume Name
    -----   ----------    ----------    ----------    ------------
      C:      31.90 MB      31.45 MB       0.45 MB     VOLUME 1
      D:       8.66 MB       3.32 MB       5.34 MB
OTHER DISKS---------------------------------------------------------------------
                       Floppy Disk 1: 1.44 MB 3+"
                       Floppy Disk 2: 1.2 MB 5,"
VIDEO---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                        Active Video: VGA + Analog Color Monitor
                         BIOS Source: AST Research, Inc.               
MEMORY--------------------------------------------------------------------------
                 Conventional Memory: 640 KB  (576 KB Free)
                     Extended Memory: 15360 KB  (0 KB Free)
                     Expanded Memory: None
RESIDENT PROGRAMS---------------------------------------------------------------
Lower Memory Block
                    Mem Segmt Size  Type         Owner Name 
                    --------- ---- ------- ----------------------
                    025B-0873 24K  Config  DOS 5.0 kernel
                    0874-0878 1K   Resrved DOS 5.0 kernel
                    0879-090D 2K   Shell   COMMAND.COM
                    090E-0912 1K   Free    DOS 
                    0913-0923 1K   Sys Env COMMAND.COM
                    0924-0928 1K   Free    DOS 
                    0929-1012 27K  TSR     SMARTDRV
                    1013-101C 1K   Envnmnt SYSC
                    101D-9FFF 575K Free    DOS Available Memory
ENVIRONMENT VARIABLES-----------------------------------------------------------
                    COMSPEC=C:\COMMAND.COM
                    PATH=D:\WINWORD;C:\WINDOWS;C:\DOS;C:\UT;E...
                    ...:\NU
                    NU=E:\NU
                    TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
INTERRUPTS----------------------------------------------------------------------
                    IRQ #    Active            Device Name          
                    -----    ------   ------------------------------
                    IRQ0      Yes     System Timer
                    IRQ1      Yes     Keyboard
                    IRQ2      Yes     Cascade->IRQ9
                    IRQ3      Yes     COM2
                    IRQ4      Yes     COM1
                    IRQ5      No      Open
                    IRQ6      Yes     Floppy Disk Controller
                    IRQ7      No      Open
                    IRQ8      Yes     Real-Time Clock
                    IRQ9      Yes     IRQ2->Cascade
                    IRQ10     No      Open
                    IRQ11     No      Open
                    IRQ12     No      Open
                    IRQ13     Yes     80486 (Math Coprocessor)
                    IRQ14     Yes     Unknown                    
                    IRQ15     No      Open
SPEED---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    Throughput Speed: 92.33 MHz
                     CPU Clock Speed: 33 MHz  


p.s. Please forgive the crosspost. I hope to contribute something in
return for any information sent by you generous folks out there...
--
Daniel W. Connolly        "We believe in the interconnectedness of all things"
Software Engineer, Hal Software Systems, OLIAS project   (512) 834-9962 x5010
<connolly@hal.com>                   http://www.hal.com/%7Econnolly/index.html

------------------------------

From: tzs@u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: As; The GNU assembler docs {Q}
Date: 8 Aug 1994 10:10:58 GMT

Steve DuChene <s0017210@cc.ysu.edu> wrote:
>       I have a lot of info files on my system which seem to be 
>       unaccessable. They are all in /usr/info and evertime I try to
>       access them through the info program I get the following 
>       message:  Sorry, unable to find the node "Top" in the file "sc".
>       About 20% of the files there seem to be ok but the rest just give
>       this error. Anyone have any ideas?

You are making the perfectly understandable mistake of assuming that to
read an info file, you simply point the info program at it.  Nope.  Find
the info directory filed (named "dir" or something like that), and edit
it to add the info file you want to access.

For a system designed to provide help, info is very counter-intuitive.

--Tim Smith

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