Subject: Linux-Development Digest #755
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Date:     Tue, 24 May 94 21:13:07 EDT

Linux-Development Digest #755, Volume #1         Tue, 24 May 94 21:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux and Bernoulli? (Rick Roberts)
  Support for SMC ElitePort Combo? (Henning Spruth)
  Re: Multiplatform GUI library (Rob Janssen)
  Re: 32-bit Novell desktop OS combines Unix, DOS 7 (Alan Cox)
  Re: Does Linux support IP Multicast? (Alan Cox)
  Re: Linux and Bernoulli? (Andrew Lih)
  Re: Two suggestions that might speed up Linux. (Michael P. Lepore)
  Re: Latest and Greatest networking code (Alan Cox)
  Re: Linux Intrntl & Auto Cfg project (Patrick D'Cruze)
  Re: 32-bit Novell desktop OS combines Unix, DOS 7 (Wolf Paul)
  Re: PCI or VL bus SCSI Host Adapters (David H Dennis)
  GOD no PPPLLEEASE don't let him do it again.... (Byron Thomas Faber)
  Re: Linux and Bernoulli? (Piotr Kapiszewski)
  Re: NeXT like voice mail ? (Thomas Quinot)
  Re: 32-bit Novell desktop OS combines Unix, DOS 7 (Laurent Chavey)
  Re: CERT Advisory! - Linux & AIX !!! (Gene McManus)
  Re: Fax Software for Linux (Gert Doering)

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
From: ricrob@metronet.com (Rick Roberts)
Subject: Re: Linux and Bernoulli?
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 17:34:26 GMT

In article <2ron8s$fk3@orion.cc.andrews.edu>,
Edsel Adap <adap@andrews.edu> wrote:
>
>Hi!
>Is there any way I can get linux to recognize my bernoulli 90?  Is
>anyone working on a device driver for it?
>
>thanks.
>-- 
> Edsel Adap                         Computer Science / Mathematics Major
> adap@andrews.edu                   Andrews University, Berrien Springs, MI
>
>The Briggs/Chase Law of Program Development:


If you have an Iomega interface card (PC2B) you can purchase a UNIX driver
from Iomega for $100.  They only support AT&T and SCO UNIX.  I am attempting
to use their driver with Linux.  Since I am new at this sort of thing, it
will probably take a while.  What I need to do is recompile the Linux
kernel with the driver.  Also included with the drivers are some utilities
for formatting disks, etc.  I am so far unable to get Linux to recognize these
as executables.  Any help would be appreciated.

Since the drivers are not freely distributed I would guess that a kernel
compiled using them could not be freely distributed.  However, if it's
just a matter of buying the drivers and recompiling the kernel, that's
pretty painless.

The people I talked with at Iomega never heard of Linux.

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From: hns@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Henning Spruth)
Subject: Support for SMC ElitePort Combo?
Date: 24 May 1994 11:48:36 +0200

I'm the proud owner of a parallel port ethernet adapter made by SMC
called the EtherNote ElitePort Combo. Is this thing compatible to any
of the parallel port adapters supported by Linux? If not, where can I
get programming documentation to (possibly) write the driver myself?

Responses by email would be appreciated.

Henning
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Henning Spruth                    spruth@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
Institute of Electronic Design Automation       
Technical University of Munich, Germany            Tel. +49 89 2105-3681

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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Multiplatform GUI library
Reply-To: pe1chl@rabo.nl
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 16:50:29 GMT

In <1994May23.212916.1@cc.uab.es> icid2@cc.uab.es writes:

>I'm searching in a multiplatform GUI library like Zapp or XVT; it must
>run under DOS, MS-Windows and Linux (under X, interested under Motif), and
>must be easy to use. Anyone has work with this kind of tool?

As you already mention, you can use XVT

Rob
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From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: 32-bit Novell desktop OS combines Unix, DOS 7
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 19:45:57 GMT

In article <1994May23.105418.22438@cato.robots.ox.ac.uk> jon@gtex02.us.es writes:
>As far as I see it , NOVEL can add better vm86 emulation for dosemu,
>better IPX support, several new filesystems all without breaking the
Some Novell people have been adding a lot of improvements to the IPX support 8)
>GPL and without revaeling source code. It all depends on how you view
>loadable modules. If they put all there changes in a .o as a loadable module
>then I believe they can get away with only providing the changes needed
>to the kernel to support there modules (code like if (!ipx_loaded_hook) ...).
pro GPL wisdom is that modules are that modules are just dynamically linked
parts of the program - and no different to static linking. Maybe this is about
to get tested in court.

Alan



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From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Does Linux support IP Multicast?
Date: Mon, 23 May 1994 19:47:17 GMT

In article <GTHAKER.94May20225319@polyphony.sw.stratus.com> gthaker@polyphony.sw.stratus.com (Gautam Thaker) writes:
>How close are we to having IP multicast support in Linux?
>
Linux has multicast filters in the device drivers. If anyone wants IP 
multicast please port it and mail me the diffs (and I'll be glad to assist
in this).

Alan




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From: lih@news.cs.columbia.edu (Andrew Lih)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Linux and Bernoulli?
Date: 24 May 1994 15:15:33 -0400

In article <CqBI5F.8o1@metronet.com>, Rick Roberts <ricrob@metronet.com> wrote:
>
>The people I talked with at Iomega never heard of Linux.

Send them the last 4 issues of PC Week.


-fuz

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From: leppa@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Michael P. Lepore)
Subject: Re: Two suggestions that might speed up Linux.
Date: 24 May 1994 17:42:03 GMT

The author of "DouBle" sent this to me, and asked me to post it on the
newsgroup:
======================================================================

Hello,

I am the author of "DouBle" and wanted to follow up on the following:

In article <2rmdcs$a6e@bigboote.WPI.EDU> you wrote:
: In article <klausf.769178506@toklotum>,
: Klaus Frank <klausf@toklotum.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
: >wos@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (William O Smith) writes:
: >
: >>Suggestion 1:  Compressed buffers.  On fast machines, if there is idle
: >>       time, and spare buffer space, how about compressing the
: >...swap-partition...
: >
: >If you feel strange, you could start compressing those swap-pages which 
: >consist of 95% zeros (just browse your swap-partition with bpe). You
: >could use a simple run-length encoding scheme to start experiments.
: >
: Couldn't you use the Beta-patch double-0.2?

: I remember starting to use this and it made devices that the space was
: compressed on, couldn't you use those for compression?

I wish I could follow up on the Newsgroup, but the News server I'm using will
not let me send postings. If possible, please do it on my behalf.

DouBle will compress a swap partition, but it will slown down Linux instead
of speeding it up. This is because the overhead in the driver actually makes
it slower than not compressing. I think it would be nice however, and
I have already started to examine ways to implement it.  

So far, I have made a small patch to the swapping code that compresses
pages before writing them to disk. This decreases the amount of data
being written, then read to/from disk. However, I think the ultimate
solution would be different: 
Take 2 or more (N) pages to swap out and compress them (if possible) to 1
or more, but at most N-1 pages. You've got one (or more) free page, and
no disk access is necessary. Of course, this process is limited by the
growing size of compressed pages, but you can start swapping them to disk
later. In short this would:
- delay disk swapping
- decrease the amount of disk swapping when it becomes necessary, because
you write compressed data.

I do not have the time/skills to implement such a feature in the swapping
code at the moment, but I'd be interested in any comment or suggestion.

I will make my current patch for swap compression available on sunsite.unc.edu
ASAP under the name "fastswap.tar.gz".

Jean-Marc




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always as they  |     a battle of wits with     |      CS '97       
  appear...     |     an unarmed person..."     |


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From: iiitac@uk.ac.swan.pyr (Alan Cox)
Subject: Re: Latest and Greatest networking code
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 10:38:57 GMT

In article <jharkinsCqACvD.HFJ@netcom.com> jharkins@netcom.com (Jim Harkins) writes:
>Where can I get the latest and greatest networking code?  I've heard of
>net3, and downloaded a net-0.32d tar file but it only had stuff like
>netstat  and arp sources in it.  I need the entire tcp/ip suite.  My
>current source code is net2 dated June 1993.

The NET3 code is in the current kernel. In addition as of 1.1.13 its a lot
faster over unreliable links. You'll be delighted to know that apart from
net032d, bootpc and dosemu no other programs need replacing to go from 1.0
to 1.1.13. bootpc will even continue to work just wont recompile until you
get the new one.

>My reasons for asking are 2-fold.  First, I'm pumping 10+ Meg files across
>the network and am thinking of optimizing the network code.  As a
>minimum I'd like to implement the TCP buffer sizes (don't remember the
>names, my books are at work.  SO_RCVBUF and SO_SNDBUF or something).
These are in the 1.0.x and 1.1.x kernel. In addition 1.1.4+ uses a 16K
rather than 4K TCP window - that trebled my speed over the UK SuperJanet 
networking. There is a lot of scope for optimizing the networking code
and I'd be delighted to help someone work on that while I work on the
stability and reliability side.

>Anybody got any tips/advice/notes/sympathy for a newbie to the Linux
>networking code?  I've been poking around the source but don't quite
>know what's going on.  Pointers to ftp'able files are great.

'The' archive for net3 code is sunacm.swan.ac.uk:/pub/Linux/Networking. It
is mirrored on sunsite.unc.edu. 

Alan
EMAIL: A.Cox@swansea.ac.uk DO NOT USE THIS ADDRESS IT WILL DIE IN ABOUT 
TWO WEEKS


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From: pdcruze@iinet.com.au (Patrick D'Cruze)
Subject: Re: Linux Intrntl & Auto Cfg project
Date: 25 May 1994 02:23:24 +0800

becker@cesdis (Donald Becker) writes:

>I know I was a little put off by the posting.  I've probably spent
>twice as much time writing and debugging the autoprobe and autoIRQ
>code for the network devices drivers as I spent writing the run-time
>part of the drivers.  Linux does far more more extensive network
>device probing than any other PC-based operating system that I know
>of, yet the posting clearly stated that probing for network cards was
>a weak area. 

My apologies for any negative inferences.  The use of network cards was
a bad example and it shouldn't have been used at all.

I was trying to emphasise support for any card that may be installed in
a PC (provided a compatible driver was available) and in my enthusiasm
put down as many cards as I could think of.  The one thing I definitely
shouldn't have put down is networking cards.

Once again I apologise for this oversight on my part.  Terribly sorry.


>-- 
>Donald Becker                           becker@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov
>USRA Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences.
>Code 930.5,  Goddard Space Flight Center,  Greenbelt, MD.  20771

Regards,
Patrick D'Cruze                         pdcruze@orac.iinet.com.au
Linux International

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From: cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf Paul)
Subject: Re: 32-bit Novell desktop OS combines Unix, DOS 7
Reply-To: Wolf.Paul@AAF.Alcatel.AT
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 10:29:48 GMT

In article <2rg2el$5sp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, rafael@cse.ucsc.edu (David Konerding) writes:
|>      I'll tell you this: all of this about "Expose" that we're reading is
|> market hype, *not* reality.  This operating system is bogus- and nothing
|> approaching the advertised power it claims to have will be released from
|> Novell for at least a couple years, if ever.

Would you care to enlighten us from where you take the certainty with which
you make these statements?

Is this based on specific information you aren't sharing, or is this your own
"gut feeling"? If the latter, your gut feeling isn't worth any more than
anybody elses.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: dhd@netcom.com (David H Dennis)
Subject: Re: PCI or VL bus SCSI Host Adapters
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 14:39:25 GMT

I have an Ultrastor 34F VL bus controller, which works just fine with my
1.8GB Quantum hard disk.  (Soon to be 2-1.8GB Quantums - we'll see how
well it scales up!)

If anyone could point me to a benchmark, I'd be more than happy to try
it on my system.

Unfortunately, Ultrastor is apparently going out of business, so I don't
know if you'd want to buy one or not ...

D

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From: bf11620@ehsn9.cen.uiuc.edu (Byron Thomas Faber)
Subject: GOD no PPPLLEEASE don't let him do it again....
Date: 24 May 1994 19:59:19 GMT

Just an open note to Linux users.  We broke all the g++ programs when going to
libc 4.5.19 (from libc 4.4.4).

PLLLLEEEEASSEEE change the major version # of the upcoming libc's
to 5.  If not I will have to recompile 50% of my HD.  Between curses.sa
math.sa & dbm.sa I have alot of programs.  Leaving the library version 
number at  4 would be horrific indeed.


Byron
-- 
`Playing this disk at loud volume may permanently damage your speakers or
other sound components.'                                -LFO
                                b-faber@uiuc.edu

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
From: kapis-p@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Piotr Kapiszewski)
Subject: Re: Linux and Bernoulli?
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 18:34:38 GMT

Bob Perkins (news@edus.oau.org) wrote:
: adap@andrews.edu (Edsel Adap) writes:


: >Hi!
: >Is there any way I can get linux to recognize my bernoulli 90?  Is
: >anyone working on a device driver for it?
: Depends. If the Bernoulli is on the SCSI bus, treat it just like a
: second hard drive, or third or fourth, and address it as such; i.e.,
: /dev/sd[bcd]x.

: If you have one of the IDE interface units, I cannot help.

I have B150 external and I couldnt get it to work with the original SCSI
controller it came with.  Since it is however compatible with for example
Adaptec SCSI's you can get yourself a cheap Adaptec say 1520/22A for I 
guess about $70-150 a parallel cable and it works.  It may not look to nice
with all the extra cables but unix above kernel 1.1.0 has no problems with
it.  I had some problems with 1.0.1 release when the drive would not sync
after about 15 or so min.  But with the new upgraded one the problem has 
been fixed.  Read the SCSI-HOWTO from sunsite.unc.edu
(/pub/linux/docs/HOWTO)

But if you got an IDE you might want to see if you can still go back to the
store and change it for the SCSI version.

-Kapi
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From: thomas@melchior.frmug.fr.net (Thomas Quinot)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT like voice mail ?
Date: 23 May 1994 12:58:55 +0200

Shahid Ikram Butt (sib1@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote:

: I have not installed Linux on my machine yet, I am looking to do that 
: real soon. A quick question. Is anybody working on NeXT-like voice 
: mail system for Linux ? I like the ability to send/receive voice mail on my
: computer.  Just about everybody has sounblaster or compatible card and
: it shouldn't be difficult to stnadardize something like that. 
It _is_ standardized (RFC-1341, aka MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail 
Extensions), and it runs fine under Linux.

You can get the 'metamail' package from BellCore, anon ftp to 
thumper.bellcore.com, cd pub/nsb and have fun.

Thomas.

-- 
ThoThoThoThoTho
        Totolitoto !

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From: chavey@dino.cis.udel.edu (Laurent Chavey)
Subject: Re: 32-bit Novell desktop OS combines Unix, DOS 7
Date: 24 May 1994 12:07:44 GMT

>|>     I'll tell you this: all of this about "Expose" that we're reading is
>|> market hype, *not* reality.  This operating system is bogus- and nothing
>|> approaching the advertised power it claims to have will be released from
>|> Novell for at least a couple years, if ever.
>
looking at this VERY STRONG statement, it seems that one forgets to make
a difference between accademia and real life in its judgment of other's
capability. And then again forgets to substantiate its claims with supporting
argument.
What is the "This operating system is bogus". Are you claiming that Linux
is bogus or that Novell's adaptation of Linux is bogus ?
What is the advertized power really defined as.
. 


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From: gmcmanus@columbus20matups.fr (Gene McManus)
Subject: Re: CERT Advisory! - Linux & AIX !!!
Date: 24 May 1994 11:43:24 GMT

I had to recompile rlogind & telnetd from the security fix to include
Kerberos. I can't find the utility library (libutil) which apparently
contains des_read, des_write and des_set_key. Can anybody point me
to this library?

Thanks...
Gene

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help
From: gert@greenie.muc.de (Gert Doering)
Subject: Re: Fax Software for Linux
Date: Tue, 24 May 1994 16:35:08 GMT

adap@andrews.edu (Edsel Adap) writes:

>Is there a public domain fax software for linux?  Preferrably one that
>can send .dvi, .ps or xwd files.

mgetty+sendfax, in combination with ghostscript (for .ps) and dvips (for
.dvi). sunsite:/pub/Linux/system/Serial/mgetty+sendfax*

gert
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Gert Doering - Munich, Germany                             gert@greenie.muc.de
fax: +49-89-3243328                         gert.doering@physik.tu-muenchen.de

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