Subject: Linux-Development Digest #718
From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Sat, 14 May 94 07:13:09 EDT

Linux-Development Digest #718, Volume #1         Sat, 14 May 94 07:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Dynamic addressing ,was Re: SLIP bitch (Brad Pitzel)
  Re: Adaptec VL SCSI (Scott Ferris)
  Re: Special plea to all developers and ftp sites... (Caleb Epstein)
  Re: Terminator-Power Question (vir@45acp.slip.com)
  Re: Booting from CD-ROM, was: [Announcement] 386BSD Release 1.0 (vir@45acp.slip.com)
  Re: BogoMips 7.?? on 386/40 (Mario Gutierrez)
  Re: New kernel introduces gawk bug? (Rene COUGNENC)
  Re: Stargate Cards:/HOSTESS cards?? (Bryan Halvorson)
  Re: COMMODORE CALLS IT QUITS (Mat)
  How to patch 1.1.12 (for now) (Bjorn Ekwall)
  Re: Linux 1.1.12...compile problem (Helmut Lichtenberg(m))
  Midi File player for Linux (Carlos Y. Villalpando)
  Re: Terminator-Power Question (Drew Eckhardt)
  libXpm.so.4? Where? (CHRISTIAN SAUCIER)
  Help about sound-driver for P.D. program needed (Michele Rubert 325354/IL)
  Re: IP Fragmentation (Ron Smits)

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From: pitzel@cs.sfu.ca (Brad Pitzel)
Subject: Dynamic addressing ,was Re: SLIP bitch
Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 22:09:55 GMT


[and thus was spoken]
>The part that is dynamic is the IP address of the HOST, depending which
>dialin line I call on. (He has about 100 dial in lines connected to the
>internet with a T1. He is not an amateur.)
>
>His assertation is that MY end of the SLIP link shouldnt need to know
>what the IP address of the OTHER end is.
>I have some software that runs under DOS (ka9q networking package)
>that works just that way. It couldnt care less what the IP address of the
>system at the other end of the phone line is.
>
>Dip on my linux system, on the other hand wont let me complete the setup
>of the slip connection until I tell it the IP address of the host system.
>
>Who's right here? How should this REALLY work?

I`ve been following this thread, and its seems that almost every person 
responding is answering a different question.

I just recently set up slip under linux. I knew absolutely NOTHING about slip
or networking when i started.

Both my IP address and the host IP address are assigned dynamically when I 
connect to the slip server. There is no problem with this arrangement 
under linux, you just have to configure for it.  Unfortunately the sample
scripts included with dip don't show you how to do this.

NOTE: rest is for people with dynamic IP slip connections.

When you connect to your slip server, it should spit out what your IP address
is, and/or the IP address of the host.  eg, when I connect to the slip server
(using dip to do the dial-in) it spits out 

"Your address is 128.189.21.2  Your server address is 128.189.21.1"

Of course, for me, the addresses change every time.  You can then tell dip 
what these addresses are by giving it the commands:

(hit ctrl-], or whatever keys to get into the dip interactive prompt)

get $local 128.189.21.2         # my ip address 
get $remote 128.189.21.1        # the host, or server address
default                         # sets up some routing stuff
mode SLIP

and off you go. Soon you get tired of typing this every time you log in
and figure, since the info is coming over the modem, why can't dip set
my IP addresses automatically each time?  Well, it can.

I used the dip.3.3.7-uri or whatever package that 
comes with the latest slackware.  It supports getting the
dynamic addresses automatically, the problem is that the docs don't tell
you how it works! It took some messing around, but I have it working
beautifully.

Basically, in your dip script, use the 'get' command to set $local and $remote
for you automatically.  Since my slip server says this when i connect:

"Your address is 128.189.28.10  Your server address is 128.189.28.11"

I have in my dip script (after all the stuff that logs me in and initiates
the slip server)
        
        wait "is" 
        get $local remote

        wait "is"
        get $remote remote

What this means is:  Wait for the word "is", then grab the next info coming
over the modem and stuff it into the variable $local, then wait for the
word "is", and stuff what comes next into the variable $remote.

After those commands, my dip script does the rest too:

        default
        mode SLIP


If this doesn't help, just send an email and I will send you my dip
script that does it all :-), it's just a slightly modified version of the
sample script included in the dip package.

Note: when playing with dip, use the `-v` option so you know what dip
is doing.


Cheers!
--brad
pitzel@cs.sfu.ca


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From: sferris@math.macalstr.edu (Scott Ferris)
Subject: Re: Adaptec VL SCSI
Date: 13 May 1994 19:30:29 GMT

John M. Tippitt (jmt5@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote:

> Does anyone know of any drivers for an Adaptec AHA-2842VL SCSI adapters?
> Or plans to write one?
> Better yet, will it work with the existing Adaptec drivers?

  There is no backwards compatibility mode on the newer Adaptec
controllers.  The old drivers won't work. 

  I'm hoping to have a working alpha by the end of the summer for
the 274x and 284x boards.


--
Scott M. Ferris,             sferris@math.macalstr.edu
LaserMaster Inc,
Macalester College,
and points in between.


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From: cae@cae.ny.jpmorgan.com (Caleb Epstein)
Subject: Re: Special plea to all developers and ftp sites...
Date: 13 May 1994 17:25:47 GMT

Jonathan Magid (jem@ladybird) wrote:

| In article <1994May11.183120.22756@oxvaxd>, Disaster prone simpleton wrote:

| > For those of us who have to use mess-dos 1440K discs to transfer stuff to
| > our boxen, please could people split stuff larger that 1400K into several
| > archives 1400K or less each. It would save people like me a lot of hassle.

| I'd reccomend investing in a "split" program.    It comes with most unices, 
| and is fairly easy to write for less enlightened operating systems.

        You can find source and executable for an MSDOS split utility
on ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/msdos/djgpp/split.{c|exe}.

        This is certainly the right solution.  The majority should not
cater to the needs of a "handicapped" minority, thereby
inconveniencing all users, when there are tools that these
"handicapped" users can turn to to solve their problems.  The right
thing to do is to supply and support these tools.

--
[ cae@jpmorgan.com ][ Caleb Epstein ][ JP Morgan & Co. Incorporated ]

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From: vir@xmission.com (vir@45acp.slip.com)
Subject: Re: Terminator-Power Question
Date: 11 May 1994 02:45:07 GMT

HIGGINS@DELBOX.ZER.DE wrote:
: Frank Westheider         Linux Support Group Paderborn
: higgins@uni-paderborn.de     higgins@delbox.zer
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

: HI Folks !

: I read some of the articles about SCSI-Termination and now the
: question :

:   How many devices including the host-adapter should provide
:   terminator-power (or only the controller ?)
:   What the hell is this "you need 3 terminators" ?

        Should be just at each end of the SCSI chain.....

:   I use a WD7000FASST and sometimes under Linux and heavy scsi-traffic
:   (Streamer and 3 Hard-Drives) the System just hangs, the
:   controller-led just keeps on, nothing works.

: Thanx for every help.

CUL,
vir
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From: vir@xmission.com (vir@45acp.slip.com)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.minix,comp.os.mach,comp.os.386bsd.development,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc
Subject: Re: Booting from CD-ROM, was: [Announcement] 386BSD Release 1.0
Date: 11 May 1994 02:52:40 GMT

Rob Janssen (rob@pe1chl.ampr.org) wrote:
: In <1994May7.211614.28288@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> rh@ramz.ing.tu-bs.de (Ruediger Helsch) writes:

: >It is possible to boot from a CD-ROM. I made a CD with a boot block so
: >it could be bootet from a SCSI CD-ROM hanging on an AHA1542B. But
: >I do not know how many other SCSI adapters or CD-ROM controllers do
: >allow this, I think even with the AHA1542C it would not work, its BIOS
: >does simply refuse to boot a CD-ROM.

: But what did you do to avoid the system booting from a harddisk?
: I can understand (as I explained in another posting) that it is possible
: to boot from a CD-ROM, at least as long as the BIOS does not explicitly
: disallow it.  The bootcode just reads block 0 and performs some checks
: on validity as a bootblock.
: What I don't understand is how you can boot a CD-ROM which is at unit #1
: (for example) while unit #0 is a harddisk.

: Rob

        Can't this the accomplished with lilo installed on the 1st HD and
        the 2nd HD as the CDROM (using SCSI systems).  With lilo configured,
        it should be able to load the linux or vmlinuz image from the
        CDROM...  Haven't played with lilo for a while...  Maybe I'll
        go try that tomorrow....

CUL,
vir
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From: mgutierr@mentor.sdsu.edu (Mario Gutierrez)
Subject: Re: BogoMips 7.?? on 386/40
Date: 10 May 1994 19:33:21 GMT

Sean Puckett (nate@loreli.ftl.fl.us) wrote:
: In the scrolls of comp.os.linux.development, HARADA Koichi (HAR) enscribed,
: HAR> Leander Jedamus (jedamus@nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE) wrote:
: HAR> > Can anybody tell me if the above value is correct for my 386 ?
: HAR> 
: HAR> My machine gives 6.60-6.65, with 386DX-40, 16MB, w/o copro.
: HAR> 

: I got, what, 7.2.  Same stats as Koichi.  6-7ish is good for 386/40.  My 
: 486/33 gets about 16 and pennies.

: --
:                        ..:: nate@loreli.ftl.fl.us ::..
:              ..:: Sean Puckett - Albino Frog Software, Inc. ::..
:           ..:: The Right Reverend Aural Hardly, MSK, BoC, FCoC ::..

On my overclocked 486/66 I get 39.94 BogoMips.  This is probably in the FAQ
but what is a BogoMips?  Is 39.94 better or worse then 7.2?  (I assume
it's something with instructions)

---
mario l gutierrez
mgutierr@mentor.sdsu.edu

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From: rene@renux.frmug.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)
Subject: Re: New kernel introduces gawk bug?
Date: 10 May 1994 20:54:40 GMT
Reply-To: cougnenc@hsc.fr.net (Rene COUGNENC)

Ce brave Rick ecrit:

> It's a problem with your awk program, and only indirectly related to the
> kernel.  Every time you use "|" in an awk program, you use up a file
> descriptor.  Your program doesn't free descriptors, so eventually you
> hit the system limit and your program fails.  Try the following instead:
> find / -print | awk ' { "echo " $1 | getline fubar; print fubar ; close "echo " $1}'

Yes; now I wonder why his program printed more than 1000 lines on my system
before I stopped it...

--
 linux linux linux linux -[ cougnenc@renux.frmug.fr.net ]- linux linux linux 

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From: bryan@edgar.mn.org (Bryan Halvorson)
Subject: Re: Stargate Cards:/HOSTESS cards??
Reply-To: bryan@edgar.mn.org
Date: Fri, 13 May 1994 03:27:28 GMT

In article <1994May10.183419.7722@micom.com>,
Charlie Wyble (PROG) <cwyble@micom.com> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone out there have any information on an old card aparently made
> by Control Systems   Called the HOSTESS 8.
> 
> It is an 8 channel serial card with 8 8250 uart chips.  It has 2
> sets of 8 dip switches and I have no documentation on it at all.
> 

SW1 (Farthest from the bracket) sets the I/O address. The switches
are the binary equivalents of the address. On is 0 and off is 1.

Switch 8 is the first digit. Switches 7-4 are the second digit.
Switch 7 is the highest bit and switch 4 is the lowest bit.  Switches
3 and 2 are the two highest bits of the third digit. Switch 3 is the 8
bit and switch 2 is the 4 bit. The only allowed numbers for the third
digit on an 8 port card are 0 4 8 and c. On an 8 port card switch 1 is
always on on a 4 port card it's off.

SW2 sets the IRQ used. It only uses 1 IRQ for all the ports.
Switches 2-7 are IRQ 2-7 switch 8 is on for a 4 port card and off for a
8 port card. Switch 1 controls some special functions that allow you to
disable interrupts for each port individually or tell which ports have
interrupts pending by reading and writing to the base address +7. Unless
you're using a Comtrol driver I'd leave switch 1 off and these functions
disabled.

Jumper JP1 should be 1-2 for an 8 port card, 2-3 for a 4 port card.



Here's some of the examples from the book.

Remember, on (down) is 0 and off (up) is 1.

SW1 I/O addresses

switch 87654321

0100   00001001
0140   00001011
0200   00010001
0240   00010011
0280   00010101
02c0   00010111
0500   00101001
0680   00110101

SW2 IRQs

switch 87654321

3      00000100
4      00001000
5      00010000
7      01000000

I've replaces the uarts on several of these cards with 16550s and set up
several to run on the higher IRQs.

The tech support numbers listed in the book I've got are 800-333-1033
and 612-631-7654.


-- 
Bryan Halvorson                bryan@edgar.mn.org
N0BUU                          bryan@n0buu.ampr.org
-- 
Bryan Halvorson                bryan@edgar.mn.org
N0BUU                          bryan@n0buu.ampr.org

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
From: mflt_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mat)
Subject: Re: COMMODORE CALLS IT QUITS
Date: Wed, 11 May 94 03:23:44 GMT

In <2qp36f$r5d@wea.eel.ufl.edu> acg@kzin.cen.ufl.edu (Alexandra Griffin) writes:

>ahead of their time in 1985 (I had an A1000), when CGA was still
>considered high resolution, but it's a pity Commodore kind of let them
>die out...


Hmmmm.  you obviously haven't seen the A4000- nothing "CGA" about that
machine--- it also runs pretty well.  (quickly)

Mat Felthousen
(Running Linux 1.0 on a 486-33 and a 486DLC-40)
mflt_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
-- 
Mat Felthousen
Chairman, Computer Interest Floor
mflt_cif x40227

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From: bj0rn@blox.se (Bjorn Ekwall)
Subject: How to patch 1.1.12 (for now)
Date: 13 May 94 23:28:54 GMT

Until the real thing comes along, this patch will take care
of the "rarp" make-problem in 1.1.12.  Just do this:

1.  Save this post in a file: "patchfile"

2.  cd /usr/src

3.  patch -p0 < patchfile

That's it!

Bjorn Ekwall == bj0rn@blox.se


*** linux/fs/proc/net.c.old     Fri May 13 18:24:08 2023
--- linux/fs/proc/net.c Fri May 13 18:25:43 2023
***************
*** 44,50 ****
--- 44,52 ----
  extern int udp_get_info(char *, char **, off_t, int);
  extern int raw_get_info(char *, char **, off_t, int);
  extern int arp_get_info(char *, char **, off_t, int);
+ #ifdef CONFIG_INET_RARP
  extern int rarp_get_info(char *, char **, off_t, int);
+ #endif /* CONFIG_INET_RARP */
  extern int dev_get_info(char *, char **, off_t, int);
  extern int rt_get_info(char *, char **, off_t, int);
  #endif /* CONFIG_INET */
***************
*** 216,224 ****
--- 218,228 ----
                        case 134:
                                length = udp_get_info(page,&start,file->f_pos,thistime);
                                break;
+ #ifdef CONFIG_INET_RARP
                        case 135:
                                length = rarp_get_info(page,&start,file->f_pos,thistime);
                                break;
+ #endif /* CONFIG_INET_RARP */
  #endif /* CONFIG_INET */
  #ifdef CONFIG_IPX
                        case 136:
*** linux/net/inet/Makefile.old Fri May 13 18:16:54 2023
--- linux/net/inet/Makefile     Fri May 13 18:30:30 2023
***************
*** 19,24 ****
--- 19,30 ----
          eth.o packet.o arp.o dev.o ip.o raw.o icmp.o tcp.o udp.o \
          datagram.o skbuff.o devinet.o
  
+ ifdef CONFIG_INET_RARP
+ 
+ OBJS  := $(OBJS) rarp.o
+ 
+ endif
+ 
  ifdef CONFIG_AX25
  
  OBJS  := $(OBJS) ax25.o ax25_in.o ax25_out.o ax25_subr.o ax25_timer.o
*** linux/net/inet/sock.c.old   Fri May 13 18:27:31 2023
--- linux/net/inet/sock.c       Fri May 13 18:28:59 2023
***************
*** 87,93 ****
--- 87,95 ----
  #include "ip.h"
  #include "protocol.h"
  #include "arp.h"
+ #ifdef CONFIG_INET_RARP
  #include "rarp.h"
+ #endif
  #include "route.h"
  #include "tcp.h"
  #include "udp.h"
***************
*** 1484,1493 ****
--- 1486,1497 ----
        case SIOCSARP:
                return(arp_ioctl(cmd,(void *) arg));
  
+ #ifdef CONFIG_INET_RARP
        case SIOCDRARP:
        case SIOCGRARP:
        case SIOCSRARP:
                return(rarp_ioctl(cmd,(void *) arg));
+ #endif
  
        case SIOCGIFCONF:
        case SIOCGIFFLAGS:

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From: heli@tzv.fal.d400.de (Helmut Lichtenberg(m))
Subject: Re: Linux 1.1.12...compile problem
Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 12:11:55 GMT

Hey,
I did it but still get:

make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/lib'
ld  -Ttext 100000 boot/head.o init/main.o tools/version.o \
        kernel/kernel.o mm/mm.o fs/fs.o net/net.o ipc/ipc.o \
        fs/filesystems.a \
        drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/net/net.a ibcs/ibcs.o \
        lib/lib.a \
        -o tools/zSystem
net/net.o: Undefined symbol _rarp_ioctl referenced from text segment
make: *** [tools/zSystem] Error 1

???
Helmut
-- 
========================================================================
|                      Helmut Lichtenberg                              |
|           Institut fuer Tierzucht und Tierverhalten (FAL)            |
|                     heli@tzv.fal.d400.de                             |

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From: unbelver@brain.jpl.nasa.gov (Carlos Y. Villalpando)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Midi File player for Linux
Date: 11 May 1994 04:32:21 GMT


Hey all,

I'm wondering if there any midi file players for Linux around.  I've
got the sound extentions in the kernel and they work.  I've got a real
midi card in my machine, but the only two midi file players I've found
(mp02 and adagio) use the FM part of my SB16 instead of the real midi
card.  

If there isn't one then, I plan to write one or help somebody write
one.  I just want to check base with anything that's out there.


Thanks,


--Carlos V.

-- 
Carlos Y. Villalpando           | Don't even think I speak for the Gov't
unbelver@brain.jpl.nasa.gov     | I also didn't screw up the Mars Observer
unbelver@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu     | (There was that button I sat on......)
unbelver@npc.ece.utexas.edu     |

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From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Terminator-Power Question
Date: 11 May 1994 06:17:26 GMT

In article <2qpgrj$jov@xmission.xmission.com>,
vir@45acp.slip.com <vir@xmission.com> wrote:
>HIGGINS@DELBOX.ZER.DE wrote:
>: Frank Westheider         Linux Support Group Paderborn
>: higgins@uni-paderborn.de     higgins@delbox.zer
>: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>: HI Folks !
>
>: I read some of the articles about SCSI-Termination and now the
>: question :
>
>:   How many devices including the host-adapter should provide
>:   terminator-power (or only the controller ?)
>:   What the hell is this "you need 3 terminators" ?
>
>       Should be just at each end of the SCSI chain.....

You're thinking of _terminating resistors_ where as the previous
posters was asking _which devices should provide terminator power_

Basically, when you terminate a SCSI bus, you wire all SCSI signals
with a 330 ohm resistor to ground and a 220 ohm resistor to TERMPWR,
with the net effect being undriven signals are pulled high, into a 
deasserted state since SCSI signals are active low.

If the device(s) driving TERMPWR can't source enough current, Bad Things(tm)
happen, and if all devices providing TERMPWR get turned off (I've seen it 
happen), Worse Things(tm) happen, like devices see an asserted RST signal, 
etc.

So, I allways jumper all devices to provide termination power.


-- 
Drew Eckhardt drew@Colorado.EDU
1970 Landcruiser FJ40 w/350 Chevy power
1982 Yamaha XV920J Virago

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From: saucc00@DMI.USherb.CA (CHRISTIAN SAUCIER)
Subject: libXpm.so.4? Where?
Date: Thu, 12 May 1994 00:31:27 GMT

I'm trying to find libXpm.so.4, does anybody knows where to find this.
I looked on sunsite and couldn't find anything like it in the INDEX.

My need for it comes from a game I got from sunsite (Xpat, a patience 
card game).  I installed it and when I run it I get the message saying
xpat: can't find library 'libXpm.so.4'

Can anybody direct me somewhere?

C.


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From: brm@esse2.dei.unipd.it (Michele Rubert 325354/IL)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Help about sound-driver for P.D. program needed
Date: 9 May 1994 17:05:44 GMT

Hello,

 I'm going to releasing a P.D. program (in test version for now) that 
 I've written for DOS ,it breaks the barrier of 4 or 8 note polyphony typical
 of MOD players and editors (for IBM PC) and uses svgalib and sound-driver...
 (I start writing for DOS but for memory and speed problems Linux should be better ).   
 

The only problem I 've encountered is to determine the buffer position of the 
=============================================================================
current-played sample.
======================


For example: 
with a dma buffer of 65535 bytes I must know if the current sample (the
sample that I hear from the speakers) has passed the half buffer position (
>=32767) or is in the low half of the buffer itself...

I prefer E-Mail answer,since our News-Server doesn't work wery well
sometimes. 

                            Many thanks in advance.....
                            
                            Michele Rubert

                            brm@paola.dei.unipd.it

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From: ron@draconia.hacktic.nl (Ron Smits)
Subject: Re: IP Fragmentation
Date: 10 May 1994 23:47:55 GMT

Maurie Daly (mauried@happy.dotc.gov.au) wrote:
: Im sorry if this is a FAQ but Ive just got into Linux.
: Are there any versions of the Net2 code which can fragment/reassemble
: IP datagrams.
: Im running Linux at the end of network which has an artificially
: imposed MTU of 512 , not the normal 1500 and I find that Linux dies
: when I try large FTPs .
: Its not practical to change the MTU at the far end.
: Ive found a temporary fix by using slip and an intermediate PC running
: ka9q which does the fragmentation / reassembly for me.

--

Why don't you just use ifconfig to set the MTU to 512?


                Ron Smits
                ron@draconia.hacktic.nl
                Ron.Smits@Netherlands.NCR.COM

/*-( My opinions are my opinions, My boss's opinions are his opinions )-*/
/*-(                They might not be the same                        )-*/

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