Debian bug report logs - #1802 source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory Package: source ; Reported by: Bill Mitchell . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From pixar.com!bruce Sun Nov 5 22:14:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCKpA-000ELfC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:14 PST Received: from mongo.pixar.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA04345 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for bruce@mongo.pixar.com); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 22:13:58 -0800 Received: by mongo.pixar.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCKod-000DsaC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:13 PST Message-Id: To: Bill Mitchell Cc: Bruce Perens , debian-bugs@Pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 05 Nov 1995 17:19:03 PST." Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 22:13:55 -0800 From: Bruce Perens > It may be a feature, but it's an unexpected and confusing one. OK. I'll put a README file in the Debian directory and in /usr/src/linux. I expect some small degree of sophistication of anyone who uses the source package and the boot-floppies package (which also builds itself). This is a decision I made to make it easier for me (as well as others) to maintain the packages. I am very reluctant to make my job more difficult right now in order to appease a small quibble about esthetics concerning a package that is not for the naive user. Ask me again when we have more help. Thanks Bruce ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Bruce Perens : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1802 ; Package source . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com!mitchell Sun Nov 5 17:19:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCGDt-000EymC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 17:19 PST Received: from motgate.mot.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA18360 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for bruce@mongo.pixar.com); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:19:11 -0800 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id TAA17782; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 19:19:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com [138.242.72.29]) by pobox.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id TAA06694; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 19:19:06 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mitchell@localhost) by bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA25229; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:19:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:19:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Mitchell X-Sender: mitchell@bb29c To: Bruce Perens Cc: debian-bugs@Pixar.com, bruce@Pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ("What's the "debian" stuff in the /usr/src/linux directory?", I was asked...) On Sun, 5 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > It's a feature! The /usr/src/linux directory can re-build all of the > Debian kernel packages ("image", "includes", and "source") using itself > as the source. The Debian sub-directory and the debian.rules file are > necessary for this functionality. I felt this was the most elegant > solution to the problem of maintaining the kernel packages. The additional > files take up little space. It may be a feature, but it's an unexpected and confusing one. Debian users installing .deb packages aren't clued in to what debian.whatever files are for. They don't know what to make of them. I'd expect debian source packages to build debian binary packages. Debian binary packages which are set up to rebuild themselves and to also build other related debian binary packages are a suprose. A kernel.tar.gz source package which produces image.deb, includes.deb, and source.deb without placing unexpected (spurious, that is) debian.whatever files /usr/src/linux when source.deb is installed would be better, IMHO. If elegance has to be sacrificed to do this, I'd say we're better off with a less elegant solution which produces less confusion. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Bill Mitchell : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1802 ; Package source . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From pixar.com!bruce Sun Nov 5 16:31:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCFSp-000F1VC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:31 PST Received: from mongo.pixar.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA14193 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 16:30:33 -0800 Received: by mongo.pixar.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCFSG-0002pHC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:30 PST Message-Id: To: Bill Mitchell , debian-bugs@Pixar.com Cc: bruce@Pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 04 Nov 1995 13:41:24 PST." <199511042141.NAA24596@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 16:30:28 -0800 From: Bruce Perens It's a feature! The /usr/src/linux directory can re-build all of the Debian kernel packages ("image", "includes", and "source") using itself as the source. The Debian sub-directory and the debian.rules file are necessary for this functionality. I felt this was the most elegant solution to the problem of maintaining the kernel packages. The additional files take up little space. Thanks Bruce ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Bruce Perens : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1802 ; Package source . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com!mitchell Sat Nov 4 13:42:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tBqLm-0006MhC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:42 PST Received: from motgate.mot.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA03103 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:41:36 -0800 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id PAA18964 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:41:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com [138.242.72.29]) by pobox.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id PAA12194 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:41:26 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mitchell@localhost) by bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA24596 for debian-bugs@pixar.com; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:41:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:41:24 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Mitchell Message-Id: <199511042141.NAA24596@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com> To: debian-bugs@pixar.com Subject: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory package: source version: 1.2.13-4 I ran into a debian user a while ago, and he asked me what the Debian directory was doing in the kernel sources. I'd never noticed it and had to say I didn't know. I see now that /usr/src/linux/Debian contains kernel-headers, kernel-image, and kernel-source subdirs, each with what look like debian packaging files related respectively to include, image, and source packages. It seems as if these should be in the source*.tar.gz package, but not in the unpackaed source*.deb package. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Bill Mitchell : New bug report received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Report forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1802 ; Package source . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian Jackson / iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk , with the debian-bugs tracking mechanism This page last modified 06:43:02 GMT Mon 06 Nov