Debian bug report logs - #1802 , boring messages ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory Reply-To: Bill Mitchell , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Bill Mitchell Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 21:48:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: source X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Sat, 04 Nov 1995 21:48:01 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail; Sat, 04 Nov 1995 21:43:09 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tBqLm-0006MhC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:42 PST Received: from motgate.mot.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA03103 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:41:36 -0800 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id PAA18964 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:41:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com [138.242.72.29]) by pobox.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id PAA12194 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 15:41:26 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mitchell@localhost) by bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA24596 for debian-bugs@pixar.com; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:41:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:41:24 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Mitchell Message-Id: <199511042141.NAA24596@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com> To: debian-bugs@pixar.com package: source version: 1.2.13-4 I ran into a debian user a while ago, and he asked me what the Debian directory was doing in the kernel sources. I'd never noticed it and had to say I didn't know. I see now that /usr/src/linux/Debian contains kernel-headers, kernel-image, and kernel-source subdirs, each with what look like debian packaging files related respectively to include, image, and source packages. It seems as if these should be in the source*.tar.gz package, but not in the unpackaed source*.deb package. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Bill Mitchell Subject: Bug#1802: Acknowledgement (was: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory) In-Reply-To: <199511042141.NAA24596@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com> References: <199511042141.NAA24596@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com> Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian GNU/Linux. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. 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Ian Jackson (maintainer, debian-bugs) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory Reply-To: Bruce Perens , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Bruce Perens Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 00:33:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: source X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Mon, 06 Nov 1995 00:33:01 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail; Mon, 06 Nov 1995 00:32:09 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCFSp-000F1VC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:31 PST Received: from mongo.pixar.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA14193 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 16:30:33 -0800 Received: by mongo.pixar.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCFSG-0002pHC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:30 PST Message-Id: To: Bill Mitchell , debian-bugs@Pixar.com Cc: bruce@Pixar.com In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 04 Nov 1995 13:41:24 PST." <199511042141.NAA24596@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 16:30:28 -0800 From: Bruce Perens It's a feature! The /usr/src/linux directory can re-build all of the Debian kernel packages ("image", "includes", and "source") using itself as the source. The Debian sub-directory and the debian.rules file are necessary for this functionality. I felt this was the most elegant solution to the problem of maintaining the kernel packages. The additional files take up little space. Thanks Bruce ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Bruce Perens Subject: Bug#1802: Info received (was Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory) In-Reply-To: References: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developers to accompany the original report. 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Ian Jackson (maintainer, debian-bugs) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory Reply-To: Bill Mitchell , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Bill Mitchell Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 01:33:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: source X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Mon, 06 Nov 1995 01:33:01 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail; Mon, 06 Nov 1995 01:20:44 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCGDt-000EymC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 17:19 PST Received: from motgate.mot.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA18360 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for bruce@mongo.pixar.com); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:19:11 -0800 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id TAA17782; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 19:19:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com [138.242.72.29]) by pobox.mot.com (8.7.1/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id TAA06694; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 19:19:06 -0600 (CST) Received: (from mitchell@localhost) by bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id RAA25229; Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:19:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 17:19:03 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Mitchell X-Sender: mitchell@bb29c To: Bruce Perens Cc: debian-bugs@Pixar.com, bruce@Pixar.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ("What's the "debian" stuff in the /usr/src/linux directory?", I was asked...) On Sun, 5 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > It's a feature! The /usr/src/linux directory can re-build all of the > Debian kernel packages ("image", "includes", and "source") using itself > as the source. The Debian sub-directory and the debian.rules file are > necessary for this functionality. I felt this was the most elegant > solution to the problem of maintaining the kernel packages. The additional > files take up little space. It may be a feature, but it's an unexpected and confusing one. Debian users installing .deb packages aren't clued in to what debian.whatever files are for. They don't know what to make of them. I'd expect debian source packages to build debian binary packages. Debian binary packages which are set up to rebuild themselves and to also build other related debian binary packages are a suprose. A kernel.tar.gz source package which produces image.deb, includes.deb, and source.deb without placing unexpected (spurious, that is) debian.whatever files /usr/src/linux when source.deb is installed would be better, IMHO. If elegance has to be sacrificed to do this, I'd say we're better off with a less elegant solution which produces less confusion. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Bill Mitchell Subject: Bug#1802: Info received (was Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory) In-Reply-To: References: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developers to accompany the original report. If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please do the same thing again: send it to debian-bugs@pixar.com, ensuring that the Subject line starts with "Bug#1802" or "Re: Bug#1802" so that we can identify it as relating to the same problem. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. Ian Jackson (maintainer, debian-bugs) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory Reply-To: Bruce Perens , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Bruce Perens Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 06:18:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: source X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Mon, 06 Nov 1995 06:18:01 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail; Mon, 06 Nov 1995 06:15:30 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCKpA-000ELfC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:14 PST Received: from mongo.pixar.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA04345 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for bruce@mongo.pixar.com); Sun, 5 Nov 1995 22:13:58 -0800 Received: by mongo.pixar.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tCKod-000DsaC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:13 PST Message-Id: To: Bill Mitchell Cc: Bruce Perens , debian-bugs@Pixar.com In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 05 Nov 1995 17:19:03 PST." Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 22:13:55 -0800 From: Bruce Perens > It may be a feature, but it's an unexpected and confusing one. OK. I'll put a README file in the Debian directory and in /usr/src/linux. I expect some small degree of sophistication of anyone who uses the source package and the boot-floppies package (which also builds itself). This is a decision I made to make it easier for me (as well as others) to maintain the packages. I am very reluctant to make my job more difficult right now in order to appease a small quibble about esthetics concerning a package that is not for the naive user. Ask me again when we have more help. Thanks Bruce ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Bruce Perens Subject: Bug#1802: Info received (was Bug#1802: source.deb package has unexpected Debian subdirectory) In-Reply-To: References: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developers to accompany the original report. If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please do the same thing again: send it to debian-bugs@pixar.com, ensuring that the Subject line starts with "Bug#1802" or "Re: Bug#1802" so that we can identify it as relating to the same problem. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. 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