Debian bug report logs - #1799 , boring messages ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1799: smail nameresloving problems Reply-To: jlarkin@aij.st.hmc.edu (John T. Larkin), debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: jlarkin@aij.st.hmc.edu (John T. Larkin) Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 01:03:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Sat, 04 Nov 1995 01:03:01 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail; Sat, 04 Nov 1995 00:54:40 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0tBWrW-0006TaC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:53 PST Received: from AIJ.ST.HMC.Edu by pixar.com with SMTP id AA03931 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:53:05 -0800 Received: by aij.st.hmc.edu id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:53 PST Message-Id: From: jlarkin@aij.st.hmc.edu (John T. Larkin) To: debian-bugs@pixar.com Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:53:40 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 PGP2] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 5227 smail: 3.1.29.1 rev 13. I'm having a problem with smail. It was recently working just fine. But for some reason unknown to me, it has stopped working. Here is a summary of the problem: My fdqn is aij.st.hmc.edu. Foo.st.hmc.edu is a another member of the domain st.hmc.edu. I have no problems using 'host' or nslookup to discover the ip address of 'foo.st.hmc.edu', nor do I have a problem using nslookup or host to find the ip address of 'foo', the short hostname by itself. Sending mail to user@foo results in a returned message from the mailer- daemon, host unknown. Mail to user@foo.st gives the same error. Sending mail to user@foo.st.hmc.edu (the fdqn) is ok. Here's my /etc/resolv.conf: domain st.hmc.edu search st.hmc.edu hmc.edu nameserver 134.173.53.8 nameserver 134.173.32.20 nameserver 134.173.42.2 The nameservers all work correctly. Here is /etc/host.conf order hosts,bind multi on Here is /etc/smail/routers # This is the Smail routers file, which says what to do with mail destined for # remote hosts. This configuration is for Internet and satellite systems. # It was originally generated by `smailconfig', part of the Smail package # distributed with Debian, but it may edited by the mail system administrator. # This file originally generated by smailconfig at Tue Oct 31 23:49:46 PST 1995 # See smail(5) for details of the things that can be configured here. inet_addrs: driver=gethostbyaddr, transport=smtp; check_for_local, fail_if_error inet_hosts: driver=bind, transport=smtp; defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, +defnames, +dns_search, gateways=hmc.edu:uucp:bitnet Using any options of +/-defnames and +/-dns_search do not change the behavior in any way. Removing the file '/etc/smail/routers' fixes the problem. However, as I'd like to use a smarthost for uucp and bitnet mail, this is very inconvient. All operations involving doing something with 'foo' work correctly, for instance 'telnet foo' works fine, so does something like 'finger @foo'. Here is an included message from another debian smail user with the same problem. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ack, I have been at this an hour, and I have come to the conclusion that I am missing something -- probably something completely obvious. Ok, the situation is as follows. I have a new nameserver set up at 198.112.200.8 This nameserver has an "MX" record for our domain This nameserver has "A" records for _all_ hosts Using the new nameserver: I can nslookup any short hostname, fqdn, or MX record. I can telnet to any host, using the short hostname or fqdn. I can mail to any fqdn or MX alias. =======> I _can't_ *mail* to any short hostname except the localhost's (it says "host unknown" when I do a "smail -bt" test) Can somebody help me figure out what it is trying to do? Smail seems to be failing to figure out that it needs to tack on .simons-rock.edu to the name. As I said above, I can nslookup short hostnames and fqdn just fine (e.g. plato and plato.simons-rock.edu). My DNS records are set up in the following format : ; MX Mail routing ("A" records are for broken mailers which require IPs.) simons-rock.edu. IN MX 0 plato.simons-rock.edu. simons-rock.edu. IN A 198.112.200.2 abel.simons-rock.edu. IN MX 0 plato.simons-rock.edu. ; Networking Office 1 - 30 plato.simons-rock.edu. IN A 198.112.200.2 www.simons-rock.edu. IN CNAME plato.simons-rock.edu. gopher.simons-rock.edu. IN CNAME plato.simons-rock.edu. My /etc/resolv.conf: domain simons-rock.edu search simons-rock.edu nameserver 198.112.200.8 My relevant /etc/smail/transports entry: smtp: driver=tcpsmtp, max_addrs=100, -max_chars, inet; use_bind, defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames My /etc/smail/routers: inet_addrs: driver=gethostbyaddr, transport=smtp; check_for_local, fail_if_error inet_hosts: driver=bind, transport=smtp; defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames, gateways=uu.net:uucp:+:cunyvm.cuny.edu:bitnet --------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's some help from Ian Jackson --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hmm. Can you try adding dns_search type: boolean If set allow the resolver to search its domain list for matches. This experimental and might not have the effect you expect depending on your resolver search capabilities. to your bind router and see what the effect is ? If you could try it with all of -defnames, -dns_search -defnames, +dns_search +defnames, -dns_search +defnames, +dns_search that would be excellent ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- All of the options described by Ian do not work. I am quite baffled by the performance of smail, and have no idea how to fix the problem. Any help at all would be greatly apprectiated. -- - John Larkin - jlarkin@hmc.edu - My home page. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: jlarkin@aij.st.hmc.edu (John T. Larkin) Subject: Bug#1799: Acknowledgement (was: smail nameresloving problems) In-Reply-To: References: Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian GNU/Linux. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. It is being forwarded to the developers' mailing list for their attention; they will reply in due course. 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