Debian bug report logs - #1753 trn recommends, instead of depends Package: tin ; Reported by: Bdale Garbee ; 7 days old. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk!ian Sat Oct 28 18:38:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t9MiA-000DIoC; Sat, 28 Oct 95 18:38 PDT Received: from artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk by pixar.com with SMTP id AA08764 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Sat, 28 Oct 1995 18:38:29 -0700 Received: from chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk by artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #33) id m0t9MhW-0007uQC; Sun, 29 Oct 95 01:38 GMT Received: by chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk id m0t9MhS-0002bdC (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Sun, 29 Oct 95 01:38 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 01:38 GMT From: Ian Jackson To: Kenny Wickstrom Cc: debian-bugs@Pixar.com, Bdale Garbee Subject: Re: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends In-Reply-To: References: Kenny Wickstrom writes ("Re: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"): > On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"): > > Recommends is correct. You can read news perfectly happily without > > either a mail transport or a news article injector. > > > > I'll reassign the bug report to tin. > > Are you sure this is right? Normal functionality of tin allows the user > to mail a response or the article to an address. Would it be correct for > the system to allow someone to install a package where some of the > functionality is missing? This would surely generate another defect > report. No, because it's actually pretty hard to install a package using dselect and fail to select its Recommended packages too. You can do it with dpkg, but such bug reports are easy to close (and I think that most people using dpkg manually will probably have enough of a clue to think a bit more about what they're doing). > I suppose recommends is a strong enough relationship that the system > maintainer would realize that some functionality may be missing if a > recommended package is missing. That is part of the definition of the Recommended relationship. > I will make the change to the tin package. Thanks, Ian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Ian Jackson : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1753 ; Package tin . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From wwa.com!kennet.com!kenny Fri Oct 27 20:06:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t91bK-000Cw9C; Fri, 27 Oct 95 20:06 PDT Received: from sashimi.wwa.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA08789 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Fri, 27 Oct 1995 20:06:03 -0700 Received: by sashimi.wwa.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0t91aq-001VvNC; Fri, 27 Oct 95 22:06 CDT Received: by silverado.kennet.com id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Fri, 27 Oct 95 21:53 CDT Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:53:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom To: Ian Jackson , debian-bugs@Pixar.com Cc: Bdale Garbee Subject: Re: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"): > > Package: trn > > Version: 3.6-2 > > > > It's not clear to me why trn uses 'recommends' for a mail transport > > and a news article injector, while tin uses 'depends'. I think that depends > > makes more sense, so I'm filing this against trn. > > Recommends is correct. You can read news perfectly happily without > either a mail transport or a news article injector. > > I'll reassign the bug report to tin. Are you sure this is right? Normal functionality of tin allows the user to mail a response or the article to an address. Would it be correct for the system to allow someone to install a package where some of the functionality is missing? This would surely generate another defect report. I suppose recommends is a strong enough relationship that the system maintainer would realize that some functionality may be missing if a recommended package is missing. I will make the change to the tin package. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kenny Wickstrom | gnu - a new generation in s/w devel/support kenny@kennet.com | Linux - a much improved Un*x clone (708)740-4008 | Debian - a Linux distribution setting the #include | standard for future distributions ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Kenny Wickstrom : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1753 ; Package tin . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bug reassigned from package `trn' to `tin'. Request was from Ian Jackson to debian-bugs-request@pixar.com . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk!ian Tue Oct 24 13:55:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t7qMg-000Cw9C; Tue, 24 Oct 95 13:54 PDT Received: from artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk by pixar.com with SMTP id AA25510 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 24 Oct 1995 13:53:53 -0700 Received: from chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk by artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #33) id m0t7qGm-0007ugC; Tue, 24 Oct 95 20:48 GMT Received: by chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk id m0t7qGj-0002aaC (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Tue, 24 Oct 95 20:48 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 20:48 GMT From: Ian Jackson To: Bdale Garbee , debian-bugs@Pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"): > Package: trn > Version: 3.6-2 > > It's not clear to me why trn uses 'recommends' for a mail transport > and a news article injector, while tin uses 'depends'. I think that depends > makes more sense, so I'm filing this against trn. Recommends is correct. You can read news perfectly happily without either a mail transport or a news article injector. I'll reassign the bug report to tin. Ian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Ian Jackson : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1753 ; Package trn . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From gag.com!bdale Tue Oct 24 08:35:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t7lNi-000BdBC; Tue, 24 Oct 95 08:35 PDT Received: from chunks.gag.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA06009 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 24 Oct 1995 08:34:40 -0700 Received: (from bdale@localhost) by chunks.gag.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA07245 for debian-bugs@pixar.com; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 09:34:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 09:34:40 -0600 From: Bdale Garbee Message-Id: <199510241534.JAA07245@chunks.gag.com> To: debian-bugs@pixar.com Subject: trn recommends, instead of depends Package: trn Version: 3.6-2 It's not clear to me why trn uses 'recommends' for a mail transport and a news article injector, while tin uses 'depends'. I think that depends makes more sense, so I'm filing this against trn. Bdale ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Bdale Garbee : New bug report received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Report forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1753 ; Package trn . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian Jackson / iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk , with the debian-bugs tracking mechanism This page last modified 07:43:01 GMT Wed 01 Nov