Debian bug report logs - #1753 , boring messages ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends Reply-To: Bdale Garbee , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Bdale Garbee Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 16:03:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: trn X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 16:03:01 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 15:55:33 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t7lNi-000BdBC; Tue, 24 Oct 95 08:35 PDT Received: from chunks.gag.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA06009 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 24 Oct 1995 08:34:40 -0700 Received: (from bdale@localhost) by chunks.gag.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA07245 for debian-bugs@pixar.com; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 09:34:40 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 09:34:40 -0600 From: Bdale Garbee Message-Id: <199510241534.JAA07245@chunks.gag.com> To: debian-bugs@pixar.com Package: trn Version: 3.6-2 It's not clear to me why trn uses 'recommends' for a mail transport and a news article injector, while tin uses 'depends'. I think that depends makes more sense, so I'm filing this against trn. Bdale ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Bdale Garbee Subject: Bug#1753: Acknowledgement (was: trn recommends, instead of depends) In-Reply-To: <199510241534.JAA07245@chunks.gag.com> References: <199510241534.JAA07245@chunks.gag.com> Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian GNU/Linux. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. It is being forwarded to the developers' mailing list for their attention; they will reply in due course. If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send it to debian-bugs@pixar.com, but please ensure that the Subject line of your message starts with "Bug#1753" or "Re: Bug#1753" so that we can identify it as relating to the same problem. 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Ian Jackson (maintainer, debian-bugs) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends Reply-To: Ian Jackson , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Ian Jackson Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:03:02 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: trn X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 21:03:02 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail; Tue, 24 Oct 1995 20:59:14 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t7qMg-000Cw9C; Tue, 24 Oct 95 13:54 PDT Received: from artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk by pixar.com with SMTP id AA25510 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 24 Oct 1995 13:53:53 -0700 Received: from chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk by artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #33) id m0t7qGm-0007ugC; Tue, 24 Oct 95 20:48 GMT Received: by chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk id m0t7qGj-0002aaC (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Tue, 24 Oct 95 20:48 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 20:48 GMT From: Ian Jackson To: Bdale Garbee , debian-bugs@Pixar.com Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"): > Package: trn > Version: 3.6-2 > > It's not clear to me why trn uses 'recommends' for a mail transport > and a news article injector, while tin uses 'depends'. I think that depends > makes more sense, so I'm filing this against trn. Recommends is correct. You can read news perfectly happily without either a mail transport or a news article injector. I'll reassign the bug report to tin. Ian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Ian Jackson Subject: Bug#1753: Info received (was Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends) In-Reply-To: References: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developers to accompany the original report. If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please do the same thing again: send it to debian-bugs@pixar.com, ensuring that the Subject line starts with "Bug#1753" or "Re: Bug#1753" so that we can identify it as relating to the same problem. 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Ian Jackson (maintainer, debian-bugs) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs-request: From chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk!ian Tue Oct 24 17:37:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t7tqb-000C39C; Tue, 24 Oct 95 17:37 PDT Received: from artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk by pixar.com with SMTP id AA12368 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-request-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 24 Oct 1995 17:37:10 -0700 Received: from chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk by artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #33) id m0t7rPz-0007vMC; Tue, 24 Oct 95 22:01 GMT Received: by chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk id m0t7rPw-0002aaC (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Tue, 24 Oct 95 22:01 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 95 22:01 GMT From: Ian Jackson To: Debian bugs mailserver Subject: forwarded message from Ian Jackson reassign 1753 tin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends Reply-To: Kenny Wickstrom , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Kenny Wickstrom Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 03:18:03 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: tin X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Sat, 28 Oct 1995 03:18:03 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail; Sat, 28 Oct 1995 03:07:34 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t91bK-000Cw9C; Fri, 27 Oct 95 20:06 PDT Received: from sashimi.wwa.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA08789 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Fri, 27 Oct 1995 20:06:03 -0700 Received: by sashimi.wwa.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0t91aq-001VvNC; Fri, 27 Oct 95 22:06 CDT Received: by silverado.kennet.com id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Fri, 27 Oct 95 21:53 CDT Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 21:53:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom To: Ian Jackson , debian-bugs@Pixar.com Cc: Bdale Garbee In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"): > > Package: trn > > Version: 3.6-2 > > > > It's not clear to me why trn uses 'recommends' for a mail transport > > and a news article injector, while tin uses 'depends'. I think that depends > > makes more sense, so I'm filing this against trn. > > Recommends is correct. You can read news perfectly happily without > either a mail transport or a news article injector. > > I'll reassign the bug report to tin. Are you sure this is right? Normal functionality of tin allows the user to mail a response or the article to an address. Would it be correct for the system to allow someone to install a package where some of the functionality is missing? This would surely generate another defect report. I suppose recommends is a strong enough relationship that the system maintainer would realize that some functionality may be missing if a recommended package is missing. I will make the change to the tin package. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Kenny Wickstrom | gnu - a new generation in s/w devel/support kenny@kennet.com | Linux - a much improved Un*x clone (708)740-4008 | Debian - a Linux distribution setting the #include | standard for future distributions ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Bug#1753: Info received (was Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends) In-Reply-To: References: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developers to accompany the original report. If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please do the same thing again: send it to debian-bugs@pixar.com, ensuring that the Subject line starts with "Bug#1753" or "Re: Bug#1753" so that we can identify it as relating to the same problem. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. Ian Jackson (maintainer, debian-bugs) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends Reply-To: Ian Jackson , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Ian Jackson Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 01:48:06 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: tin X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Sun, 29 Oct 1995 01:48:06 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail; Sun, 29 Oct 1995 01:40:42 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t9MiA-000DIoC; Sat, 28 Oct 95 18:38 PDT Received: from artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk by pixar.com with SMTP id AA08764 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Sat, 28 Oct 1995 18:38:29 -0700 Received: from chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk by artemis.chu.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #33) id m0t9MhW-0007uQC; Sun, 29 Oct 95 01:38 GMT Received: by chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk id m0t9MhS-0002bdC (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Sun, 29 Oct 95 01:38 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 01:38 GMT From: Ian Jackson To: Kenny Wickstrom Cc: debian-bugs@Pixar.com, Bdale Garbee In-Reply-To: References: Kenny Wickstrom writes ("Re: Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"): > On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Bdale Garbee writes ("Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends"): > > Recommends is correct. You can read news perfectly happily without > > either a mail transport or a news article injector. > > > > I'll reassign the bug report to tin. > > Are you sure this is right? Normal functionality of tin allows the user > to mail a response or the article to an address. Would it be correct for > the system to allow someone to install a package where some of the > functionality is missing? This would surely generate another defect > report. No, because it's actually pretty hard to install a package using dselect and fail to select its Recommended packages too. You can do it with dpkg, but such bug reports are easy to close (and I think that most people using dpkg manually will probably have enough of a clue to think a bit more about what they're doing). > I suppose recommends is a strong enough relationship that the system > maintainer would realize that some functionality may be missing if a > recommended package is missing. That is part of the definition of the Recommended relationship. > I will make the change to the tin package. Thanks, Ian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Ian Jackson Subject: Bug#1753: Info received (was Bug#1753: trn recommends, instead of depends) In-Reply-To: References: Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developers to accompany the original report. If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please do the same thing again: send it to debian-bugs@pixar.com, ensuring that the Subject line starts with "Bug#1753" or "Re: Bug#1753" so that we can identify it as relating to the same problem. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. 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