Debian bug report logs - #1525 root disk missing ls? Package: 1440_root_floppy.gz ; Reported by: Michael E. Deisher ; Done: imurdock@debian.org (Ian Murdock). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs-done: From debian.org!imurdock Wed Oct 11 10:39:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t357z-000HorC; Wed, 11 Oct 95 10:39 PDT Received: from imagine.imaginit.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA25865 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-done-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Wed, 11 Oct 1995 10:39:12 -0700 Received: by imagine.imaginit.com id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Wed, 11 Oct 95 12:38 EST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Oct 95 12:38 EST From: imurdock@debian.org (Ian Murdock) To: debian-bugs-done@pixar.com Subject: Bug#1525: This bug was fixed in a recent upload of the package. Please check ftp.debian.org:/pub/debian for the new (fixed) version. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Notification sent to Michael E. Deisher : Bug acknowledged by developer. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Reply sent to imurdock@debian.org (Ian Murdock) : You have taken responsibility. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From pixar.com!bruce Tue Oct 3 09:15:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t0A0W-000H5IC; Tue, 3 Oct 95 09:15 PDT Received: from mongo.pixar.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA28415 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 3 Oct 1995 09:15:33 -0700 Received: by mongo.pixar.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t0A0V-000H3eC; Tue, 3 Oct 95 09:15 PDT Message-Id: To: cdr@sme.siemens.com Cc: Bruce Perens , debian-bugs@Pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1525: root disk missing ls? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 03 Oct 1995 08:15:32 PDT." <9510031215.AA02386@cons.mountain> Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 09:15:51 -0700 From: Bruce Perens I tried KISS a while back. It's a step in the right direction, but doesn't have all of the programs I wanted, and wasn't as robust as I'd like it to be. I then wrote something with the tiny utilities like KISS, but no shell. It's intended to be linked into another small shell like "ash". I think Ian has replaced "bash" on the root disk with "ash", because it was Bourne-shell compatible and much smaller than "bash". The shell in KISS is not useful for interpreting our scripts. All of these utilities are supposed to run in a fork(), not in the main thread, for robustness. These are the tools I have so far: cat chgrp chmod chown clear cp df false halt init ln mkdir mkswap more mount mv pwd reboot rm rmdir sleep swapoff swapon sync touch tput true umount update I would like to add my own "tiny" versions of "ls", and "tar", and link in the existing "gzip", "dialog", "badblocks", and the new fdisk rewrite. I have the tar extractor function I wrote for "dpkg", and can easily make a tar writer. To add "gzip", "dialog", "badblocks", and "fdisk", I will modify the source packages for these programs so that they will create library versions of themselves. This should give us a reasonably small static-linked environment. It should fit on the boot floppy along with the kernel and modules. Thanks Bruce ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Bruce Perens : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1525 ; Package 1440_root_floppy.gz . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From sme.siemens.com!cdr Tue Oct 3 05:16:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0t06GS-000GTMC; Tue, 3 Oct 95 05:16 PDT Received: from scr.siemens.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA17931 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 3 Oct 1995 05:15:43 -0700 Received: from cons.mountain ([129.73.58.158]) by scr.siemens.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA10738; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 08:15:36 -0400 Received: from localhost by cons.mountain (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02386; Tue, 3 Oct 95 08:15:32 EDT Message-Id: <9510031215.AA02386@cons.mountain> To: Bruce Perens , debian-bugs@pixar.com Reply-To: cdr@sme.siemens.com Subject: Re: Bug#1525: root disk missing ls? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 02 Oct 1995 13:12:51 PDT." Date: Tue, 03 Oct 1995 08:15:32 -0400 From: CD Rasmussen Bruce, would KISS the tiny shell with common commands builtin be useful to you? Its used in the SAR, search-n-rescue, boot disk. I added code to it to handle df so I got to know it pretty well. It uses the readline lib for command line edit and replay. This think could save a bunch a space. That's why it was created. Want more info or are you all set? Costa ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to cdr@sme.siemens.com : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1525 ; Package 1440_root_floppy.gz . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From mdd.comm.mot.com!mitchell Mon Oct 2 13:56:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0szruS-000H2HC; Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:56 PDT Received: from motgate.mot.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA06561 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:56:02 -0700 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id PAA17200; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:55:57 -0500 Received: from mdd.comm.mot.com (mdisea.mdd.comm.mot.com [138.242.64.201]) by pobox.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with SMTP id PAA05912; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:55:56 -0500 Received: from bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com by mdd.comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26914; Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:55:54 PDT Received: by bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20776; Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:55:46 PDT Date: Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:55:46 PDT From: mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) Message-Id: <9510022055.AA20776@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com> To: bruce@Pixar.com, deisher@enws428.EAS.ASU.EDU, debian-bugs@pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1525: root disk missing ls? Cc: debian-bugs@Pixar.com, imurdock@debian.org "Michael E. Deisher" said, re missing ls: > Wow! That severely diminishes the usefulness of the "0 Shell" > feature. Any filesystem operations will have to be done "blind". > Scares me. I use echo as a rough workaround for a missing ls. "echo *, "echo /bin/*", etc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1525 ; Package 1440_root_floppy.gz . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From enws428.EAS.ASU.EDU!deisher Mon Oct 2 13:35:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0szraa-000H3WC; Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:35 PDT Received: from asuvax.EAS.ASU.EDU by pixar.com with SMTP id AA05992 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:35:31 -0700 Received: from ganges (enws428.EAS.ASU.EDU) by asuvax.eas.asu.edu with SMTP id AA29898 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for bruce@Pixar.com); Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:30:16 -0700 Received: by ganges (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19083; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:35:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:35:47 -0700 Message-Id: <9510022035.AA19083@ganges> From: Michael E. Deisher To: bruce@Pixar.com Cc: debian-bugs@Pixar.com, imurdock@debian.org, bruce@Pixar.com In-Reply-To: (message from Bruce Perens on Mon, 02 Oct 1995 13:12:51 -0700) Subject: Re: Bug#1525: root disk missing ls? On Mon, 02 Oct 1995 13:12:51 -0700, Bruce Perens said: > There's no room. No kidding. If Ian adds /root/bin, etc. to the > shell path, it will use the versions that you install from the base > floppies, but you'll have to install them first. Wow! That severely diminishes the usefulness of the "0 Shell" feature. Any filesystem operations will have to be done "blind". Scares me. > For the next release, I'll have a "tiny" installation tool set that > includes its own "ls". Sounds good. --Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Michael E. Deisher : Extra info received and forwarded. 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Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From mdd.comm.mot.com!mitchell Mon Oct 2 13:30:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0szrVT-000Gr7C; Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:30 PDT Received: from motgate.mot.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA05803 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:30:08 -0700 Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with ESMTP id PAA10276; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:30:25 -0500 Received: from mdd.comm.mot.com (mdisea.mdd.comm.mot.com [138.242.64.201]) by pobox.mot.com (8.6.11/8.6.10/MOT-3.8) with SMTP id PAA27022; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 15:30:23 -0500 Received: from bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com by mdd.comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25885; Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:30:21 PDT Received: by bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20738; Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:30:20 PDT Date: Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:30:20 PDT From: mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) Message-Id: <9510022030.AA20738@bb29c.mdd.comm.mot.com> To: bruce@Pixar.com, debian-bugs@pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1525: root disk missing ls? You said: > For the next release, I'll have a "tiny" installation tool set that includes > its own "ls". I've been holding off mentioning it during the release crunch, but there's a tiny grep-alike from the ae author. I've taken a quick look, and it looks like it has the potential to be usable, but it'd need work in the user area (output format and exit status). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to mitchell@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bill Mitchell) : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1525 ; Package 1440_root_floppy.gz . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From pixar.com!bruce Mon Oct 2 13:13:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0szrEW-000H0vC; Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:13 PDT Received: from mongo.pixar.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA05067 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for bruce@mongo.pixar.com); Mon, 2 Oct 1995 13:12:43 -0700 Received: by mongo.pixar.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0szrEJ-000Gl5C; Mon, 2 Oct 95 13:12 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: "Michael E. Deisher" , debian-bugs@Pixar.com Cc: imurdock@debian.org, bruce@Pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1525: root disk missing ls? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 02 Oct 1995 08:54:09 PDT." <9510021554.AA12608@ganges> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Oct 1995 13:12:51 -0700 From: Bruce Perens There's no room. No kidding. If Ian adds /root/bin, etc. to the shell path, it will use the versions that you install from the base floppies, but you'll have to install them first. For the next release, I'll have a "tiny" installation tool set that includes its own "ls". Bruce -- -- Attention Radio Amateurs: For information on "Linux for Hams", -- read the WWW page http://www.hams.com/LinuxForHams, -- or e-mail the word "help" to info@hams.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Bruce Perens : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1525 ; Package 1440_root_floppy.gz . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From enws428.EAS.ASU.EDU!deisher Mon Oct 2 08:54:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sznC8-000GWJC; Mon, 2 Oct 95 08:54 PDT Received: from asuvax.EAS.ASU.EDU by pixar.com with SMTP id AA18563 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:54:00 -0700 Received: from ganges (enws428.EAS.ASU.EDU) by asuvax.eas.asu.edu with SMTP id AA21241 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for debian-bugs@Pixar.com); Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:48:37 -0700 Received: by ganges (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12608; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:54:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 08:54:09 -0700 Message-Id: <9510021554.AA12608@ganges> From: Michael E. Deisher To: imurdock@debian.org Cc: debian-bugs@Pixar.com Subject: root disk missing ls? Package: 1440_root_floppy.gz Version: 0.93R6 (October 2) If I choose "expert mode" and shell out, "ls" is not found. I think "ls" should be on the root disk. --Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Michael E. Deisher : New bug report received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Report forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1525 ; Package 1440_root_floppy.gz . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian Jackson / iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk , with the debian-bugs tracking mechanism This page last modified 07:43:01 GMT Wed 01 Nov