Debian bug report logs - #1313 sysvinit-2.57b Package: sysvinit ; Reported by: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder); 56 days old . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From uranus.central.de!pertron.central.de!ke.central.de!ke Sun Sep 10 15:49:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0srvC4-000DTeC; Sun, 10 Sep 95 15:49 PDT Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by pixar.com with SMTP id AA26442 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Sun, 10 Sep 1995 15:49:30 -0700 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from odb.rhein-main.de (193.141.47.4) with smtp id ; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:49 MEST Received: from uranus.central.de by odb.rhein-main.de with cbsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0srvAr-0007TMC; Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:48 MET DST Received: from pertron.central.de by uranus.central.de with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0srsBD-0002nxC; Sun, 10 Sep 95 21:36 MET DST Received: from luna by pertron.central.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 p1) id m0srrvw-00048BC; Sun, 10 Sep 95 21:20 MET DST Received: by luna id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Sun, 10 Sep 95 21:23 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 21:23 MET DST To: richard@elmail.co.uk Cc: debian-bugs@Pixar.com, debian-bugs@Pixar.com In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Kettlewell on Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:18:01 +0100 (BST)) Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b From: Karl Eichwalder Richard> The PPP package has /etc/ppp/README which is a symlink to a Richard> file in /usr/doc. I consider those links as a bad idea. dpkg provides the -L switch; voila, there's all you need: # dpkg -L sysvinit | egrep 'doc|README' /etc/init.d/README /usr/doc /usr/doc/copyright /usr/doc/copyright/sysvinit README files have to go to /usr/doc/... . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Karl Eichwalder : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1313 ; Package sysvinit . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de!sr1 Wed Sep 6 02:20:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sqGeq-000EyrC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 02:20 PDT Received: from irz101.inf.tu-dresden.de by pixar.com with SMTP id AA15322 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Wed, 6 Sep 1995 02:20:22 -0700 Received: by irz101.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) id LAA15532; Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:20:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:20:11 +0200 From: sr1@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (Sven Rudolph) Message-Id: <199509060920.LAA15532@irz101.inf.tu-dresden.de> To: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder), debian-bugs@Pixar.com In-Reply-To: ke@pertron.central.de's message of Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:34 MET DST Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b References: In article ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder) writes: > Package: sysvinit > Version: 2.57b > Debian_Version: 0 > > BTW, I've installed the base system and some additional packages, but I'm > still missing `last'. last is in the acct package. Sven -- Sven Rudolph (sr1@inf.tu-dresden.de); WWW : http://www.sax.de/~sr1/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to sr1@irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (Sven Rudolph) : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1313 ; Package sysvinit . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From elmail.co.uk!richard Wed Sep 6 02:18:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sqGcm-000DtEC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 02:18 PDT Received: from muskogee.elmail.co.uk by pixar.com with SMTP id AA15307 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Wed, 6 Sep 1995 02:18:06 -0700 Received: by muskogee.elmail.co.uk id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:18 BST From: Richard Kettlewell Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:18:01 +0100 (BST) To: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder), debian-bugs@Pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b In-Reply-To: References: Karl Eichwalder writes: >Package: sysvinit >Version: 2.57b >Debian_Version: 0 > >debian.README: primary FTP site for the source is not mentioned. > >init.d/README: Thanks for it, but please move it to /usr/doc/.. The PPP package has /etc/ppp/README which is a symlink to a file in /usr/doc. Perhaps that's the way to go for init as well? >BTW, I've installed the base system and some additional packages, but I'm >still missing `last'. It's in the acct package. -- Richard Kettlewell http://www.elmail.co.uk/staff/richard/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Richard Kettlewell : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1313 ; Package sysvinit . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From uranus.central.de!pertron.central.de!pertron.central.de!ke Wed Sep 6 01:33:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sqFv5-0003QgC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 01:33 PDT Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by pixar.com with SMTP id AA14404 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:33:05 -0700 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from odb.rhein-main.de (193.141.47.4) with smtp id ; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:33 MEST Received: from uranus.central.de by odb.rhein-main.de with cbsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sqFup-0007TRC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 10:33 MET DST Received: from pertron.central.de by uranus.central.de with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sqEJN-0002jOC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 08:50 MET DST Received: from luna.pertron.central.de by pertron.central.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 p1) id m0sqEED-00047LC; Wed, 6 Sep 95 08:44 MET DST Received: by luna.pertron.central.de id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Wed, 6 Sep 95 08:46 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 08:46 MET DST From: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder) To: debian-bugs@Pixar.com In-Reply-To: (message from Bruce Perens on Tue, 05 Sep 1995 16:18:36 -0700) Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b Bruce> I think "last" is in its own package, probably under the Bruce> "text" subdirectory. The base system includes "more". No. I don't look for the pager, but for the tool which reads utmp/wtmp and displays the last LOGINs. The last from sysvinit does this duty, you don't install it, obviously for reasons, since it is intentionally commented (`#') in the Makefile. Best whishes, Karl. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder) : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1313 ; Package sysvinit . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From cus.cam.ac.uk!iwj10 Tue Sep 5 16:22:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sq7Jk-000BVFA; Tue, 5 Sep 95 16:22 PDT Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by pixar.com with SMTP id AA26206 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 5 Sep 1995 16:21:58 -0700 Received: by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sq7JX-000BzlA; Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:21 BST Received: by chiark id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:22 BST Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 00:22 BST From: Ian Jackson To: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder), debian-bugs@pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b Precedence: air-mail Karl Eichwalder writes ("Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b"): > There is no info, how to update from a prior version--or is it secure > simply to do `dpkg -r sysvinit' and then `dpkg -i sysvinit-2.57b-0.deb'? The standard way to upgrade any Debian package is simply to use dpkg --install to install the new version. The old one will be cleaned up automatically. Do not attempt to remove the sysvinit package with dpkg -r. If you're lucky dpkg will refuse; if you're unlucky your system will probably be screwed. > /etc/inet.d/functions: has mode 644; should 755? As I wrote earlier: ] There is little reason for files in /etc/init.d to use the `functions' ] file. The file `functions' on my system contains ] ] * code to set PREVLEVEL and RUNLEVEL based on the output of the ] `runlevel' command. The only scripts in /etc/init.d that use it are ] `rc' and `powerfail' - arguably this could be done by using `runlevel' ] directly in those scripts. ] ] * shell functions `daemon' and `stop' that do a half-baked version of ] `start-stop-daemon'. Scripts should use `start-stop-daemon' instead; ] the `daemon' and `stop' functions are not reliable. There are no ] scripts in my /etc/init.d directory that use `daemon' or `stop'. ] ] I suggest that the file `functions' be removed. Ian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Ian Jackson : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1313 ; Package sysvinit . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From pixar.com!bruce Tue Sep 5 16:18:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sq7GT-000F89C; Tue, 5 Sep 95 16:18 PDT Received: from mongo.pixar.com by pixar.com with SMTP id AA26138 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 5 Sep 1995 16:18:36 -0700 Received: by mongo.pixar.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sq7GH-000F9MC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 16:18 PDT Message-Id: X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.2 7/18/95 To: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder), debian-bugs@Pixar.com Cc: bruce@Pixar.com Subject: Re: Bug#1313: sysvinit-2.57b In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 05 Sep 1995 21:34:00 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 16:18:36 -0700 From: Bruce Perens ke@pertron.central.de said: > Package: sysvinit Version: 2.57b Debian_Version: 0 > /etc/inet.d/functions: has mode 644; should 755? We have some reasons to remove this file, as start-stop-daemon provides a better replacement for the functions in it. For now, I think this is only used with the "." (source) command, and it will work fine when mode 644. > There is no info, how to update from a prior version Don't try to remove the old package first. Make sure you are running an up-to-date version of dpkg - at least 0.93.70, and then just install the new package with "dpkg -i " . > BTW, I've installed the base system and some additional packages, but > I'm still missing `last'. I think "last" is in its own package, probably under the "text" subdirectory. The base system includes "more". Thanks Bruce -- -- Attention Radio Amateurs: For information on "Linux for Hams", -- read the WWW page http://www.hams.com/LinuxForHams, -- or e-mail the word "help" to info@hams.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to Bruce Perens : Extra info received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1313 ; Package sysvinit . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message received at debian-bugs: From uranus.central.de!pertron.central.de!pertron.central.de!ke Tue Sep 5 15:53:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sq6rj-000F7dC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 15:53 PDT Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by pixar.com with SMTP id AA24724 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:52:56 -0700 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from odb.rhein-main.de (193.141.47.4) with smtp id ; Tue, 5 Sep 95 23:12 MEST Received: from uranus.central.de by odb.rhein-main.de with cbsmtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sq5Hf-0007TlC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 23:11 MET DST Received: from pertron.central.de by uranus.central.de with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0sq3t2-0002j5C; Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:42 MET DST Received: from luna.pertron.central.de by pertron.central.de with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 p1) id m0sq3jV-00047LC; Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:32 MET DST Received: by luna.pertron.central.de id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:34 MET DST Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 21:34 MET DST From: ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder) To: debian-bugs@pixar.com Subject: sysvinit-2.57b Package: sysvinit Version: 2.57b Debian_Version: 0 debian.README: primary FTP site for the source is not mentioned. init.d/README: Thanks for it, but please move it to /usr/doc/.. /etc/inet.d/functions: has mode 644; should 755? There is no info, how to update from a prior version--or is it secure simply to do `dpkg -r sysvinit' and then `dpkg -i sysvinit-2.57b-0.deb'? BTW, I've installed the base system and some additional packages, but I'm still missing `last'. Best whishes, Karl. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Acknowledgement sent to ke@pertron.central.de (Karl Eichwalder) : New bug report received and forwarded. Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Report forwarded to debian-devel@pixar.com : Bug#1313 ; Package sysvinit . Full text available. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian Jackson / iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk , with the debian-bugs tracking mechanism This page last modified 07:43:01 GMT Wed 01 Nov