Debian bug report logs - #1210 , boring messages ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1210: lost bug? ppp configuration ugliness Reply-To: Raul Miller , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Raul Miller Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 02:33:13 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: ppp X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Mon, 07 Aug 1995 02:33:13 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail id 08070225305272; Mon, 07 Aug 1995 02:25:30 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sfHre-0006DdC; Sun, 6 Aug 95 19:24 PDT Received: from gopher.legislate.com ([192.77.155.4]) by pixar.com with SMTP id AA08272 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Sun, 6 Aug 1995 19:24:21 -0700 Received: by gopher.legislate.com id (Debian /\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.33); Sun, 6 Aug 95 22:24 EDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 95 22:24 EDT From: Raul Miller To: debian-bugs@pixar.com Package: ppp Version: 2.1.2b I don't like the way the ppp configuration files are set up in /etc/ppp -- it's reasonable to start up ppp over a null modem from the command line, but there's so much cruft in these files that it's impossible to do this without clearing out the ppp/options file on both ends. As this configuration is useless (e.g. it invokes chat to dial a non-phone number), I think it should be changed/simplified. -- Raul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Raul Miller Subject: Bug#1210: Acknowledgement (was: lost bug? ppp configuration ugliness) In-Reply-To: References: Thank you for the problem report you have sent regarding Debian GNU/Linux. This is an automatically generated reply, to let you know your message has been received. It is being forwarded to the developers' mailing list for their attention; they will reply in due course. If you wish to submit further information on your problem, please send it to debian-bugs@pixar.com, but please ensure that the Subject line of your message starts with "Bug#1210" or "Re: Bug#1210" so that we can identify it as relating to the same problem. 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Ian Jackson (maintainer, debian-bugs) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent to debian-devel@pixar.com: Subject: Bug#1210: lost bug? ppp configuration ugliness Reply-To: Alvar Bray , debian-bugs@pixar.com Resent-From: Alvar Bray Resent-To: debian-devel@pixar.com Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 09:48:01 GMT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk X-Debian-PR-Package: ppp X-Debian-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool for debian-bugs; Mon, 07 Aug 1995 09:48:01 GMT Received: with rfc822 via encapsulated-mail id 080709380521508; Mon, 07 Aug 1995 09:38:05 GMT Received: from pixar.com by mongo.pixar.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #15) id m0sfOc9-0005NoC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 02:36 PDT Received: from hub (hub.meiko.co.uk) by pixar.com with SMTP id AA25221 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for debian-bugs-pipe@mongo.pixar.com); Mon, 7 Aug 1995 02:36:40 -0700 Received: from charon.meiko.co.uk by hub with SMTP id AA27502 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for debian-bugs@pixar.com); Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:22:28 +0100 Received: by charon.meiko.co.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA19395; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:21:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:21:27 +0000 Message-Id: <9508070921.AA19395@charon.meiko.co.uk> From: Alvar Bray To: rdr@tad.micro.umn.edu, debian-bugs@pixar.com Cc: debian-bugs@pixar.com In-Reply-To: (message from Raul Miller on Sun, 6 Aug 95 22:24 EDT) Content-Length: 1976 Hi, >>>>> "Raul" == Raul Miller writes: Raul> Package: ppp Version: 2.1.2b Raul> I don't like the way the ppp configuration files are set up Raul> in /etc/ppp -- it's reasonable to start up ppp over a null Raul> modem from the command line, but there's so much cruft in Raul> these files that it's impossible to do this without clearing Raul> out the ppp/options file on both ends. Raul> As this configuration is useless (e.g. it invokes chat to Raul> dial a non-phone number), I think it should be Raul> changed/simplified. I would tend to agree with this. I suspect that many ppp users have ppp needs similar to myself. That is that they use Linux at home to connect up intermittantly to work (or where ever) and close down the connection when it is no longer required. Under these situations I dont want ppp to start at boot time etc. I have a personal set of ppp/chat scripts that I use to initiate/monitor/close dialback connections to various machiens/architectures etc. I would be more than willing to make these available to the ppp package maintainer if people thought they would be useful. Maybe the solution would be to have a base ppp package that only contained the binaries, man pages etc. and then to have various ppp configurations; ppp-static for static lines; ppp-dynamic for my type of useage; ppp-dip for people who use dip etc. What do people think? PS. I have heard some people say ppp is not reliable. I have found it rock solid, and quite fast. alvar -- Alvar Bray Mail: Meiko Limited Meiko Inc. 650 Aztec West 130C Baker Avenue Ext. Bristol Concord BS12 4SD MA 01742 England USA Voice: +44 1454 616171 +1 508 371 0088 Fax: +44 1454 618188 +1 508 371 7516 E-Mail: alvar@meiko.co.uk alvar@meiko.com WWW: http://www.meiko.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Message sent: From: iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk (Ian Jackson) To: Alvar Bray Subject: Bug#1210: Info received (was Bug#1210: lost bug? ppp configuration ugliness) In-Reply-To: <9508070921.AA19395@charon.meiko.co.uk> References: <9508070921.AA19395@charon.meiko.co.uk> Thank you for the additional information you have supplied regarding this problem report. It has been forwarded to the developers to accompany the original report. If you wish to continue to submit further information on your problem, please do the same thing again: send it to debian-bugs@pixar.com, ensuring that the Subject line starts with "Bug#1210" or "Re: Bug#1210" so that we can identify it as relating to the same problem. Please do not reply to the address at the top of this message, unless you wish to report a problem with the bug-tracking system. Ian Jackson (maintainer, debian-bugs) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian Jackson / iwj10@thor.cam.ac.uk , with the debian-bugs tracking mechanism This page last modified 07:43:01 GMT Wed 01 Nov