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Subject:  Linux-Misc Digest #80

Linux-Misc Digest #80, Volume #2                  Sun, 8 May 94 01:13:14 EDT

Contents:
  Is Always AL-7048 SCSI card supported? (Jongyoon Lee)
  How to use tar? (Steve Horsley)
  Re: Jana 3 CD yet ?? (Bill Bogstad)
  Re: Pascal Or Modula Compiler (Steven Whitlatch)
  UCCICO DOES'NT WORK...HELP NEEDED!!! (Thomas Hartwig)
  Re: JANA'S NEW TRCIKS! (Bogdan Urma)
  Re: Linux CD-ROMs? (Dan Austin)
  Re: WANTED: Linux Programmer (Ruediger Merz)
  Re: Building v1.1.11 (Davor Jadrijevic)
  Re: Term works, but not txconn or tupload (L.G. "Ted" Stern)
  Jana, Getting better..... (Jeff Lewis)

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From: mr2@netcom.com (Jongyoon Lee)
Subject: Is Always AL-7048 SCSI card supported?
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 20:14:38 GMT


I've looked at SCSI-HOWTO, and it only lists IN-2000 as alpha driver.
Is 7048 backward compatible to 2000, or it's a different card and
not supported?  I'm looking for a good VLB SCSI card to use with
Linux.  Is Ultrastor 34F the only VLB card that has the support?



Jongyoon

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From: steve@rigel.demon.co.uk (Steve Horsley)
Subject: How to use tar?
Reply-To: steve@rigel.demon.co.uk
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 20:27:14 +0000

Please could someone spare the time to explain how to use tar?
All previous installation was done by the slackware scripts, so I've 
never used tar directly.

I now want to install dosemu. I have found and un-gzipped a file called
dosemu0.49pl3.tar, and my first go at using tar was to try and see what
is inside this file. I typed "tar -t dosemu0.49pl3.tar" expecting to
see a list of contents. Instead, I got the message 
         tar: can't open /dev/rmt0 : No such device
which only goes to prove that I haven't a clue what I am doing.

The tar man page is (like most man pages) as much use as an ashtray on a 
motor bike, so I turn to the Internet for help.

1) how can I list what's in this file?

2) how should I then install/restore what's in this file?

Hopefully, there's a README inside which will help me get dosemu working.
If not, then "I'll be back...".

Any help would be much appreciated.

                   /---   |
                  |      -|---------
                   \__    |     ___               ___
                      \   |    /   \   |    |    /   \
                       |  |    \  _/   |    |    \  _/
                   ---/    \__--~\____/ \__/ \__--~\_____  *

-- 
  Steve Horsley                                    steve@rigel.demon.co.uk

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From: bogstad@blaze.cs.jhu.edu (Bill Bogstad)
Subject: Re: Jana 3 CD yet ??
Date: 4 May 1994 16:07:27 -0400

In article <1994May3.114031.5899@bnr.ca>,
Ernest Leuenberger <ernestl@bnr.ca> wrote:
>In article <94122.025136BTITMARS@ESOC.BITNET>, BARRY TITMARSH <BTITMARS@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>|> Any one out there got the 3CD set yet ?
>|> or is it still due to arrive sometime in 1997 ?

        I just received email discussing some problems they have had and
saying that JANA was canceling their offer.  There was some mention of plans
for a similar offering in the future.  I would assume that you will receive
a similar note shortly.

                                Bill Bogstad

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From: swhitlat@nmt.edu (Steven Whitlatch)
Subject: Re: Pascal Or Modula Compiler
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 14:01:32 GMT

In article <Cp9HnH.GAy@eskimo.com> scottw@eskimo.com (Scott Wolfe) writes:
>Can some one point in the direction to find a pascal or modula compiler 
>for Linux. I know of p2c.
>Thanks,
> -Scott
>

        For the pascal compiler, I'd suggest getting the debian 
        "contrib" version.  Look at sunsite under 
        /pub/Linux/distributions/debian/contrib or something 
        like that.  Just find the deban distribution and then look 
        in the contrib directory.

        For modula-2 (mocka) look at sunsite under 
        /pub/Linux/devel/mocka or something like that.

        These pathes might not be exactly correct, but both 
        are there because that's where I got them.

        Steve


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From: hartwig@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Hartwig)
Subject: UCCICO DOES'NT WORK...HELP NEEDED!!!
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 19:42:20 GMT

I red all f. manuals avaiable, BUT

UUCICO does'nt do anything...


I just installed Slackware Linux 1.02, and Taylor-UUCP 1.04.
I want to dial out with my modem for uucping etc.

I reconfigured all config-files I saw; I think the problem
is the diffrence between hdb-config-files and taylors...
But whereever I looked for documentation, they all spoke from 
hdb-configs! 
When I start it(for example uucico -s fubinf), 
it does'nt find the config-files
- which are: Devices, Dialers, Permissions, Systems.
I putted them anywhere!

The only report which uucico gives is in 
/var/spool/uucp/../uucico/any, and it says that it can't find
the alias which I putted in the config-file!

I glad about every reply and TNX...

Thomas Hartwig

PS.: I'am just relearning english and especially writing english,
     so what do you think about my letter, can you give me an
     advice, how does it sound, what mistakes I did? :-)
     Ok, only a short sentence if you want...
     At least do you know(dt: merken) in common, 
     if the writer is a german?


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From: bau1@cornell.edu               (Bogdan Urma)
Subject: Re: JANA'S NEW TRCIKS!
Date: 6 May 1994 16:14:30 GMT

Ian Soboroff (ian@umbc.edu) wrote:
: In article <1994May5.101244.19397@gold.muc.de>,
: Christian Seyb <cs@gold.muc.de> wrote:

: >Whining about Jana in public doesn't solve anyones issues with Linux ...

: and, to be honest, it's getting downright annoying.

: hey, all you complainers, b*tchers-and-moaners, gripers, etc, you've
: missed a key element to a successful complaint here.  you haven't paid
: a red cent for what you haven't received.

: now, if you'd actually sent off a check (and, yes, all you old-timers
: who will no doubt counterflame, i am just referring to this current
: offer), well, then you'd be in a position to be downright annoyed.
: but lets face it, you're waiting on something that you haven't put
: anything into except piss-and-moan.
  
     Yes we haven't paid, but instead of waiting we could have ordered
from some other company! Once I placed an order with Jana, I stopped
ordering from another distributor (TransAmeritech) in hopes of getting
my CD's from Jana. Now that I've waited for Jana and the deal fell through,
I am mad because I waited for nothing. I wasted my time with these people,
and if I had ordered from some other company I would have my CD's now 
instead of nothing. 


: if you want jana to work well at all, your pisspoor attitude ain't
: gonna cut it.  if you really have that much interest in if they
: deliver or not, offer to help.
  
     I'm the customer, and to tell you the truth, I don't care how Jana
does. That's their bussiness. The only way I can offer to help is to
order from them. 

: and, if you _don't_ care, or if you're fed up and no longer want to
: hear about jana or jay, shut up, because we're tired of reading about
: it.

     DON'T READ THE POSTS ON JANA THEN!!!!!


Bogdan


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From: daustin@news.NeoSoft.com (Dan Austin)
Subject: Re: Linux CD-ROMs?
Date: 6 May 1994 21:10:15 GMT

DL83-08 (s21008@cc.ntnu.edu.tw) wrote:

: Excuse me for asking such a question, but I am new to Linux, and am
: interested in getting a Linux CD-ROM. I have seen an advertisement for SLS
: at $99 plus $15 S/H, but then I have seen AT at $25 (?) and $5 S/H. Why is
: there such a difference in prices? Can anyone suggest a good company?

: Thank you!
: --

        Hello, 

        I am running linux 1.0 / Slackware 1.2 installed from the Trans-Ameritech Linux-Plus cdrom. I am very happy with the Trans-Ameritech product and
service. I ordered the CD and received it 6 days later. The cd is $29.95.
They answer their email and the disk works well.
        I suspect that the difference in pricing among CD offers is
mostly salesmanship. The product itself is freely available; producing the
disk is probably quite cheap in quantity. The SLS linux is out of fashion
at this point; better to try slackware.
Here is the original Trans-Ameritech ad :



From uuneo.neosoft.com!news.uh.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!rochester!cornell!bounce-bounce Mon Apr 11 18:47:01 1994
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce
Path: uuneo.neosoft.com!news.uh.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!udel!rochester!cornell!bounce-bounce
From: roman@btr.btr.com (Roman Yanovsky roman@btr.com)
Subject: New release of Linux Plus CD-ROM
Message-ID: <ann-1117.766000764@cs.cornell.edu>
Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Keywords: Trans-Ameritech CD-ROM distribution
Sender: mdw@cs.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
Reply-To: roman@btr.btr.com (Roman Yanovsky roman@btr.com)
Organization: BTR Communications Company
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:59:32 GMT
Approved: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu (Matt Welsh)
Lines: 140

[]
        New Release of Trans-Ameritech Linux Plus CD-ROM! 


Trans-Ameritech is emerging as new leader in Linux and BSD distribution. 
Our product (Linux Plus CD-ROM) is well designed and considered to be 
superior by majority of the Internet community. We would like to offer
you NEW release (Release 3).

We include both Slackware and NetBSD distribution to target TWO major 
UNIX markets.

Here is the brief information about our product:


 "The best Linux Plus CD-ROM ever" just got better with Linux 1.0!

Now based on the Slackware 1.2 and with the Linux kernel 1.0. XFree86 2.1
This release combines the best features of all existing CD-ROM releases 
of the Linux operating system:

* The installation is highly automated by the Slackware scripts fine tuned
to this CD-ROM but leaves a lot of room for customization. The great 
advantage of Slackware is the ease of installing/deleting individual 
packages and sets. Install only what you really need!
The menu-based installation procedure on the "color" root disks lets even
first time Linux users install the system in no time.

* In addition to standard device drivers in Linux kernel, BIOS-less aha1522
SCSI is supported (it covers Sound Blaster 16 SCSI too).

* To minimize the possibility of hardware conflicts many extra kernels are 
provided for different configurations. They are usable for installation and
normal use.

* For the FIRST time it is possible to try Linux without repartitioning 
your hard drive - just use at least 12 Meg on your DOS partition for Linux.
The "live" CD-ROM filesystem helps you run almost any software in this mode.

* Many on-line documents are provided for quick reference, including the
Linux Documentation Project files in source, dvi and ps formats.

* A lot of applications are included:
  -     The C/C++ compiler GNU GCC 2.5.8, 
  -     GNU and international versions of the "ispell" spell-checker. 
  -     The communications apps: term 1.1.4, minicom, Seyon (X-Windows based).
  -     Editors: elvis (vi clone), joe, jove, 
  -     PostScript clone "ghostscript" 2.6.1, 
  -     Spreadsheet "sc"
  -     Network package with news and email:
        TCP/IP (net2debugged), UUCP, SLIP, CSLIP, mailx, 
        dip, deliver, elm, pine, smail, cnews, nn, tin, trn
  -     Object oriented GNU Smalltalk 1.1.1, and the Smalltalk Interface to X. 
        (STIX)
  -     Powerful scripting language with Motif-like X interface tcl7.3,         tk3.6, wish
  -     SPICE for electric engineering
  -     Several window managers - openwin, twm, gwm, fvwm.      
  -     Easy X-Windows configuration with many real-life examples.
  -     X11 ghostscript, libgr13, seyon, workman, xfilemanager, xdraw
        xv 3.00, GNU chess and xboard, xfm 1.2, ghostview,  X games
  -     Interviews libraries, include files, and the "doc" word processor and 
        "idraw" drawing program. 
  -     Typesetting: TeX, LaTeX, xdvi, dvips, Metafont, groff
  -     Ingress and Postgress databases.
  -     Multimedia: mpeg video and sound applications. Mosaic 2.2.
        xgopher.1.3.2, tracker, adagio04, speak-1.0. 
  -     GIF pictures and sounds in various formats.
  -     Andrew multimedia word processor with hyper links.
  -     FlexFax send and receive fax on either class 1 or class 2 fax-modems. 
  -     A lot more.


* To help the first time Linux users many documentation files are provided 
that are readable from DOS even before installing Linux.

* All the sources are available on the CD-ROM. The most often needed 
sources  are uncompressed and can be used directly from CD-ROM.

* An uncompressed Linux filesystem is available for reference and disk space
conservation. You can run programs directly from CD-ROM! There is a large
"info" directory for on-line reference and many manpages.

* For hacker's reference an uncompressed FreeBSD source tree is provided.

* On the BSD side there is a full source and binary distribution of the
NetBSD 0.9 to compliment the FreeBSD on the Winter release. 

* If you have questions or problems Trans-Ameritech provides free support
for INSTALLATION questions via e-mail ONLY, usually within 24 hours
from receipt of your questions.


Special price for Internet Users is $30.

Availability and ordering:

You can order by email, by phone (408)727-3883 or fax (408)727-3882.
(email Roman@Trans-Ameritech.com)

If you prefer to send a cheque, our address is:

Trans-Ameritech Enterprises, Inc.
2342A Walsh Ave
Santa Clara, CA 95051
USA

If you order with a credit card (VISA, MC, American Express) please 
indicate the card number, expiration date and your mailing address.

The price for a single CD-ROM is $30 if you are an internet user and
found the info on the net (you must have an e-mail address).
Shipping and handling in US is $5. Overseas is $8.
COD is available in the US only for $4.50

California residents please add sales tax.

Anual subscriptions (4 releases) are available for $80 plus s&h.
(note: there are 4 shipments in a subscription)
Example subscription in US is: $80 + $5 * 4 = $100
Subscription in Europe/Japan etc. is: $80 + $8 * 4 = $ 112
 
For all CURRENT subscribers: PLEASE don't send us any messages - your
CDs will be mailed to you automatically within 2-3 weeks.

If you have any further questions, please contact us at 

Trans-Ameritech Enterprises, Inc.
2342A Walsh Ave
Santa Clara, CA 95051
USA

Phone (408)727-3883 
FAX   (408)727-3882.
email Roman@Trans-Ameritech.com

Note: Unix is registered trademark of Unix System Labs. All product 
names referenced herein are trademarks of their respective companies.
--
Mail submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu
Be sure to include Keywords: and a short description of your software.


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From: styx@styx@leda.fsag.rhein-main.de (Ruediger Merz)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Linux Programmer
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 18:05:44 GMT
Reply-To: styx@styx@leda.fsag.rhein-main.de

hi,

look for netkey-1.0.tar.gz 
you can find it on ftp.engr.ucf.edu.

cu
        styx


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From: davj@ds5000.irb.hr (Davor Jadrijevic)
Subject: Re: Building v1.1.11
Date: 5 May 1994 14:36:12 GMT

NJ. Bruton (ccnjb@sun.cse.bris.ac.uk) wrote:
: Hi

: I am currently running v1.0.9 but have just tried to build v1.1.11
: I pulled the v1.1.0 kernel and then applied all the patches but when I tried
: a make zImage it failed as follows:

: (lots of probs with vm86.c)
: followed by {standard input}: Assembler messages:
: {standard input}:627: Fatal error:Symbol _save_v86_state already defined.
: make[1]: *** [vm86.o] Error 1

I had it too. I suspect there should be a bug in patch command,
which wrongly places vm86.c file (very strange).

Your vm86.c and vm86.c.orig should be misplaced in directory where 
you run patch from. Moving them into appropriate dir (linux/kernel 
I think) should help. BTW anybody has patch for GNU patch?

Best regards, Davor.
--
<davor%emard.uucp@ds5000.irb.hr> <davj@ds5000.irb.hr> 

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From: stern@amath.washington.edu (L.G. "Ted" Stern)
Subject: Re: Term works, but not txconn or tupload
Date: 04 May 1994 21:03:15 GMT

>>>>> "Gertjan" == Gertjan van Noord <vannoord@let.rug.nl> writes:

    Gertjan> In article <Cp7tAF.24o@sci.kun.nl>, patrickr@sci.kun.nl (Patrick
    Gertjan> Reijnen) writes:
    >> In <2q1306$t6i@uuneo.neosoft.com> dlogue@news.neosoft.com (Dan Logue)
    >> writes:
    >> 

    >> Most certain his problem is the fact that some of the ascii code below
    >> 32 are giving problems.
    >> 
    >> 
    >> In your termrc's try:
    >> 
    >> escape 17 escape 19 ignore 17 ignore 19
    >> 
    >> Probably some other 'escape' sequences have to be left out but this you
    >> have to experience by just trying it. Don't ask me why they have to be
    >> left out. The only thing I know is that almost always, with this kinbd
    >> of problems they cause the timeouts.

    Gertjan> you can use the program linecheck that comes with the term
    Gertjan> distribution to find out which char's you have to escape (cf. man
    Gertjan> page).


To help beginning term users, I am submitting my own ~/.term/termrc file
below.  You may end up having to escape/ignore more characters, but this seems
to work pretty well.  Also, try linecheck or linetest, whatever it is, that
comes with the distribution.  It should be able to tell you what characters
are getting through!

=======Start of included file ~/.term/termrc==========
escape 17
escape 19
escape 145
escape 147
# You might have to uncomment the following line if there is a lot of noise
# flowcontrol 500
baudrate 38400
compress off
window 6
noise on
ignore 17
ignore 19
ignore 145
ignore 147
# on the computer you're dialing from, remove the following line
remote

=======End of included file===========================
--
        -- Ted
______________________________________________________________________________
Ted Stern  <stern@amath.washington.edu>               UW phone: (206) 685-8068
Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20    University of Washington    Seattle, WA  98195
==============================================================================
Lesser-known tongue twisters:
Akerrak adarrak okerrak ditu [BASQUE] = the mountain-sheep curly-horns has.

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From: jlewis@hyrax.iupui.edu (Jeff Lewis)
Subject: Jana, Getting better.....
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 20:44:05 GMT

I've received E-Mail from Jana.com and they've apparently had one bad fall 
after another.  I ordered their 3 CD set several months back just as hundreds 
(if not more) of others have.

It seems as though they have been getting nasty letters (EMail) from lots of 
us.  Most of them from people who have not even ordered from them....  that 
doesn't make a lot of sense.  Those of us that ordered and did complain....  
we had a right to.

The last incident .....  quoted from them.....

        First of all I am sorry for the delay in sending you this E-Mail.
While we were moving offices, some one broked into our van and took our
main system that was sitting on the front seat. This system contained a
4 Gig HD and all the images of the CD and we lost all of them. Since it
was stolen out of  a rented van insurance will not cover the cost either.
We had to start from scratch.

        I here infomagic is shipping some thing like ours, I have not seen
it but if you like you can order one from them. There E-Mail address is
info@infomagic.com. If you have placed a order with us don't worry, we have
canceled it. We will have a CD that's just like infomagics set, but with
more current software and half the price.

        Past 3 weeks have bean very bad for us. I worked so hard on the 3 CD
set, but lost it all. To make things worst a employee whom I trusted,
left us unannounced. The flames on the net has not helped us much either.
People who started flaming went from flaming the company to flaming people
directly. Infect half the people not even our customers. Sad but true. I am
the fist one to admit that our service used to be bad, but we have improved.
Now we have given our distribution to a larger company we hope we will do a
better service.

. 
. 
. 

====================================

I can understand everything going at once like this... one problem after 
another.  They were decent enough to redirect orders to another CD distributer 
and allow us to order again.  Our previous order being cancelled.

Well, Im going for it again...  I placed my order again in high hopes that 
everything goes smoothly.  They certainly seem sincere and are willing to ship 
and bill you.  What do I have to loose? 

Just an opinion.....   
Jeff


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