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Linux-Misc Digest #7, Volume #2                  Mon, 25 Apr 94 01:13:11 EDT

Contents:
  Linux+Xfree+STB Lightning VL = ?
  Re: Linux on IBMSLC2-66 (Nathan Spam Pritchard)
  LILO: what does lilo write in boot sector? (Jan Lien)
  Re: SLIP with the newer kernels slowing down? (lilo)
  Re: waiting for dip to exit (lilo)
  Re: waiting for dip to exit (lilo)
  Texel CD-Rom (Wayne Willcox)
  Parallel cable swizzling question (Archie Cobbs)
  Re: Impressions: FreeBSD vs Linux (Stephen White)
  My experience with JANA CD-ROM A MONTH :-( (Guy D'Andrea)
  Re: An alternative to JANA (NIIBE Yutaka)
  Re: A few experiences and problems (Archie Cobbs)
  elm-2.4.23 compile breaks under Linux (Gary Anderson)
  Re: Does Linux offer a Reliable Filesystem? (Ron Smits)
  Re: SB16SCSI][ MICRO-HOWTO  was  Linux and SB16 SCSI2 (Rick Arabian)
  Re: Boot hang with NE2000 compatible net card (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
  Re: Amoeba 5.2 now available by FTP for universities (Grant Taylor)

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From: swampler@noao.edu ()
Subject: Linux+Xfree+STB Lightning VL = ?
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 00:40:47 GMT

Does anyone know how well, the STB Lightning VL graphics
controller works with XFree under Linux?  Is it fast?
(How fast?)  Does it work at all?  I think the card uses
the TSENG W32L chipset, and has 2MB DRAM.

In particular, does it compete with the ATI Ultra Graphics Pro
VLB card?

Thanks for any information!  Please email, if possible.
-- 
Steve Wampler
swampler@noao.edu
Gemini Project (under AURA)

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From: nateman@flammulated.owlnet.rice.edu (Nathan Spam Pritchard)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Linux on IBMSLC2-66
Date: 24 Apr 1994 18:31:22 GMT

Doug McIntyre (merlyn@winternet.mpls.mn.us) wrote:
: jpr@kaiwan.com (jpr) writes:
: >Ditto here...if anyone has setup a 486SLC2-66, please post with details
: >of the setup.  Any difficulties or was it easy?  Have you got XFree up
: >successfully?  What was your hardware setup and which distribution of
: >Linux did you use?  

: Sometimes I'm amazed that anybody can run anything on the 486SLC/66. 
: Around here, we worry about customer's trying to do anything with 
: these boards. Sound cards and net boards seem especially prone not to
: work at all with this board. Looking at the construction of it, I'm 
: amazed that it works at all. I've seen them with that tiny CPU halfway
: wrenched off its pads, and huge gouges on the corners. 

i've had a 486slc2/66 for about a month now and have had no problems
whatsoever.  i've got a sound card (plain vanilla sound blaster).  no
problems there, either.  i don't have linux on it, but i'd like to get it
(as soon as i get a bigger hard drive), so i'll revoice the first guy's
questions.  anything special i need to know?  also, is there a linux FAQ
somewhere?

-nathan

--
"Yes, I'm still alive, but I'm tired, things are busy and my love life is
in the spiritual blender of life called 'Things suck hard when you put too
much in and everything sprays all over the walls.'"
                        -quote of the year, from my friend simone

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From: lien@linnea-grind.stacken.kth.se (Jan Lien)
Subject: LILO: what does lilo write in boot sector?
Date: 24 Apr 94 19:47:21 GMT

Does Lilo (v 0.14) write anything in the boot sector that is
processor specific?    

I try to make a AMD-386DX pc with no floppy boot linux (and DR-DOS)
by moving the hard disk drive from the 386 to a 486 pc with floppy.
On the 486 I can install lilo, and boot both DOS and linux 1.0 by
lilo.  However when I re-install the hd on the 386 I get Error on 
controller 0"  or  "Missing operating system" depending on where
I have installed lilo (/dev/ha or /dev/hda3), but both installations
work on the 486.

Can my problem be that lilo writes processor-specific boot sector
code, and that I need a floppy for the motherboard wher I try to
install my lilo?

                                Jan Lien

                                lien@stacken.kth.se

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From: lilo@slip-14-7 (lilo)
Subject: Re: SLIP with the newer kernels slowing down?
Date: 20 Apr 1994 02:23:02 GMT

On Mon, 18 Apr 1994 19:47:55 GMT, Harald Milz (hm@seneca.ix.de) wrote:

> No, this both works with dip-322 and -337. Correct me if I'm wrong: the dip
> version should not even be able to affect this because all the low level
> handling is done by the kernel, and dip mainly sets line disciplines and 
> sets up the interface slx. 

You're absolutely right.  :)



lilo

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From: lilo@slip-14-7 (lilo)
Subject: Re: waiting for dip to exit
Date: 20 Apr 1994 02:25:57 GMT

On 19 Apr 1994 14:28:34 -0500, Phil Howard (phil@zeus.fasttax.com) wrote:

> So what have I missed about dip?

You've missed my version of dip (dip-3.3.7-lilo-3.2.Tar.gz on
sunsite.unc.edu) which is tailor-made for doing this sort of thing.  Check
the shell scripts in the sample directory.  :)



lilo

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From: lilo@slip-14-7 (lilo)
Subject: Re: waiting for dip to exit
Date: 20 Apr 1994 02:31:14 GMT

On 19 Apr 1994 20:55:49 GMT, Dan Swartzendruber (dswartz@pugsley.osf.org) wrote:

> In article <2p1bdj$pja@zeus.fasttax.com>, phil@zeus.fasttax.com (Phil Howard) writes:
> > I'm not sure if dip is even going to become cooperative with this.  I want to
> > have a script wake up when my SLIP link disconnects.  The obvious thing for
> > it to do is restart it.  There may be other things to do as well.

> I definitely need this, since I have an outgoing line to my service
> provider which flakes out every couple of days or so.

See my previous comment.  My dip provides this functionality.  It's
dip-3.3.7-lilo-3.2.Tar.gz on sunsite.unc.edu.  :)

>  
> > The first dip process that is started eventually forks into the background.
> > The first process exits, so a shell script will see the exit when the SLIP
> > link starts, not when it ends.  I can't seem to find an option to make dip
> > stay in the foreground.

My dip version provides this feature.

> I think the right answer is a 'restart' option to dip (or some such).
> You don't want to restart on SIGTERM (I don't think so, anyway), you
> just need to catch the case where you die because the line was hungup.
> The uri dip was recently changed for both incoming and outgoing dip
> connects such that if the carrier drops (the modem hanging up due to
> excessive noise or some such), the dip process in question will get a
> SIGHUP signal and terminate.  Formerly, it would just sit there, sleeping
> forever, which made it useless for SLIP server service.

My version provides this feature also.  It doesn't include a "restart"
option, per se--it just provides informative exit codes and lets you code a
script that makes your restart as sophisticated (or as simple) as you would
like, which seems to me to be a better strategy.  I also provide a shell
script setup option which runs a shell script, providing it a number of
internal values as arguments, to run instead of the internal ifconfig and
route commands the standard dip provides.  This also lets you add some
intelligence to the whole process.  :)



lilo

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From: wayne@obiwan.uucp (Wayne Willcox)
Subject: Texel CD-Rom
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 01:45:47 GMT

 I have a texel cd-rom on an adaptec 1542b scsi card and don't
 seem to be able to mount the drive am told that the file system
 dosn't exist. greatfully for any help, please email me thanks wayne.

-- 
Wayne Willcox                          I will not eat green eggs and ham 
Phone: 512 258-4224 (home)               I will not eat them Sam I Am!!   
             ...!{rutgers|ames}!cs.utexas.edu!uudell!obiwan!wayne


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From: archie@qin.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Archie Cobbs)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Parallel cable swizzling question
Date: 24 Apr 94 19:09:21 GMT

I have an old NEC 8023 printer that used to be attached
to an Apple ][. It has a parallel interface, and I want
to attach it to a linux box.

I got the pinout of the linux 25-pin parallel port, but
the printer has a larger 36-pin connector and I can't
seem to find the pinout for this anywhere... can anyone
tell me which of the 36 pins these signals go to?

(Or better yet, which pins on the 16-pin card connector
are which signals...)

Thanks,
-Archie

Parallel Port DB25-Female:
        pin     assignment      pin     assignment
        1       -Strobe         2       Data 0
        3       Data 1          4       Data 2
        5       Data 3          6       Data 4
        7       Data 5          8       Data 6
        9       Data 7          10      -Ack
        11      Busy            12      Paper Empty
        13      Select          14      -Auto Feed
        15      -Error          16      -Init
        17      -Slct in        18      GND
        19      GND             20      GND
        21      GND             22      GND
        23      GND             24      GND
        25      GND


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From: steve@adam.com.au (Stephen White)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.386bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Impressions: FreeBSD vs Linux
Date: 24 Apr 1994 03:10:00 -0000

Amancio Hasty Jr (hasty@netcom.com) wrote:
: >>You wanted a DOS emulator to initialise SVGA cards?

: Maybe we should have the original poster provide *free* service to
: do the low level initialization of cards, talk to manufacturers,
: risk his own equipment -- I own a $1200 monitor, etc..

No thanks. I own a $3000 monitor. :)

--
  steve@adam.com.au

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From: guy@modru.network.com (Guy D'Andrea)
Subject: My experience with JANA CD-ROM A MONTH :-(
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 94 20:40:57 GMT

I am fortunate enough NOT to have bought the CD-ROM A MONTH deal and after
the phone call I got from Jay, I'd say I'm REAL lucky!!!  

I ordered a Linux CD from JANA back around the end of Jan. 94'.  I got billed
right away for it but did not receive it for over 2 months!  Of course that is
nothing compared to others that have not seen one for over 7 months!!!  Well
by my mistake I posted a "reply" instead of a "post" to this newsgroup that
said about the same thing, and Jay got it today.  He called me on the phone 
(which is in my .sig) and told me I was taking food out of his mouth.  He then
told me all the excuses for why the CD's were delayed and then blamed
Christine for not answering the phones when she should have!  She doesn't
work there any more (but by here quiting, not fired) and that's another
story she - may - tell someday.

I told Jay if I have slandered him or somehow lied of what happed to me, I
would post a retraction.  See any retraction???  :-)  No, me neither.  I'm
sorry if my "powerful" post can or does cause him to loose some customers
(well not so sorry any more!) but it is a free market out there and the best
wins as far as I'm concerned.  For $5 more you can get a "good" linux CD
from a good dealer folks, don't go cheap and think you are going to get the
same thing from JANA; it's really not worth it.  

-Guy


guy@nsco.network.com, Guy Dandrea, Network Systems Corp., Mpls. MN 55428, USA
         (612) 391-1136 or 1-800-328-9108, x1136  Fax:(612)424-1736


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From: gniibe@mri.co.jp (NIIBE Yutaka)
Subject: Re: An alternative to JANA
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 00:56:57 GMT

I'm a subscriber of InfoMagic Linux CD, and I think it is good.

Joel@InfoMagic.com (Joel Goldberger) said:
>> We don't ship tee shirts with our CD's

This is good for us, those who are in Japan.  While there is no
customs didies for CDs, there is customs duties for clothes.
--
NIIBE Yutaka
Mitsubishi Research Institute, Inc.

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From: archie@qin.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Archie Cobbs)
Subject: Re: A few experiences and problems
Date: 24 Apr 94 19:36:03 GMT

mai@wumpus.cc.uow.edu.au (Van Dao Mai) writes:

>   Xwindow hangs:
>               This is odd. After running for a while, suddenly X hangs and
>               I had to reset the machine. This happens once every couple of
>               days. I suspect that it is because of low memory (8M RAM)
>               and I ran X, load picture to background at 1024x768 resolution.
>               I set the system to reboot automatically every night to see if
>               this will help the system to avoid crashing down heavily. Could
>               this be a problem with the kernel Linux 1.0??? Any one can
>               confirm this with me?

I had this problem using Openwin, but not with fvwm, if you are in fact
talking about the same thing (X hangs, but mouse and windows still active,
no response from mouse clicks or keyboard). Slackware 1.2.0.

-Archie


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From: ganderson@clark.net (Gary Anderson)
Subject: elm-2.4.23 compile breaks under Linux
Date: 25 Apr 1994 03:26:26 GMT

I posted this query on comp.mail.elm back on Apr. 19, but didn't get
any answers, so I turn to the Linux folks, in the hopes that someone
has an answer.

I just tried to compile elm-2.4.23, and it breaks in
elm-2.4.23/lib/opt_utils.c.  I'm using linux-1.0.7, gcc-2.5.8, and
libc-4.5.19.
Here's the error I'm getting:

cc  -O6 -fomit-frame-pointer -m486 -I../hdrs -c opt_utils.c -o opt_utils.o
opt_utils.c: In function `gethostname':
opt_utils.c:90: argument `size' doesn't match prototype
/usr/include/unistd.h:557: prototype declaration
make[1]: *** [opt_utils.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/elm-2.4.23/lib'
make: *** [all] Error 1


Here's the 'offending' section of opt_utils.c.  Line 90 is the line with the
opening brace '{'


#ifndef GETHOSTNAME

gethostname(cur_hostname,size) /* get name of current host */
char *cur_hostname;
int size;
{
        /** Return the name of the current host machine. **/

#if (defined(XENIX) || defined(M_UNIX)) & !defined(DOUNAME)
        char    buf[32];
        FILE    *fp;
        char    *p;

        buf[0] = '\0';

        if ((fp = fopen("/etc/systemid", "r")) != 0) {
          fgets(buf, sizeof(buf) - 1, fp);
          fclose(fp);
          if ((p = index(buf, '\n')) != NULL)
            *p = '\0';
          (void) strfcpy(cur_hostname, buf);
          return 0;
        }

#else   /* neither XENIX nor SCO UNIX */
 


Here's the referenced section of the /usr/include/unistd.h file:

#ifdef  __USE_BSD

/* Put the name of the current host in no more than LEN bytes of NAME.
   The result is null-terminated if LEN is large enough for the full
   name and the terminator.  */
extern int __gethostname __P ((char *__name, size_t __len));
extern int gethostname __P ((char *__name, size_t __len));



The last line above is line 557.  Anyone have any ideas as to what
the problem is ?

Thanks,
Gary            ganderson@clark.net

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From: ron@draconia.hacktic.nl (Ron Smits)
Subject: Re: Does Linux offer a Reliable Filesystem?
Date: 24 Apr 1994 22:02:59 GMT

Glenn Rysko (glennr@netcom.com) wrote:
: Linux users -  I'm just about to install my first Linux system
: as soon as the CD arrives.  In preparation, I've been reading
: all the documentation I can find.  However, I still have a question
: regarding the filesystems offered by Linux.  

: Does Linux offer a reliable filesystem such as Veritas on SVR4.2?
: Since I'm going to be using Linux on a laptop I would be very
: disappointed to see my files disappear when the battery dies.

: Thanks,

: Glenn Rysko

--

The Veritas filesystem (vxfs) is not in the public domain and I haven't
seen anything in the groups about it. But ... I've been running Linux on a
laptop for more then 8 months, and even when the batteries die, I don't lose files.
This is because of the update program, that syncs the buffers every 30 secs.
furthermore, the ext2fs filesystem is extremly good.


                Ron Smits
                ron@draconia.hacktic.nl
                Ron.Smits@Netherlands.NCR.COM

/*-( My opinions are my opinions, My boss's opinions are his opinions )-*/
/*-(                They might not be the same                        )-*/

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From: ricka@crl.com (Rick Arabian)
Subject: Re: SB16SCSI][ MICRO-HOWTO  was  Linux and SB16 SCSI2
Date: 22 Apr 1994 12:10:29 -0700

I got a modified kernel working, patching the aha152x driver in two 
places.  I too had the more data than expected (130) message.  The next 
step is to create a kernel boot disk to do an install that knows about my 
scsi devs.  I was told that there is a faq about this on cdrom.com.
/pub/linux/slackware/bootdisk i think.

I'l post the results.

thanx for the E-Mail
ricka@crl.com


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Date: Sun, 24 Apr 1994 03:18:10 +0200
From: Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg)
Subject: Re: Boot hang with NE2000 compatible net card


Hello Dennis and all others,

on 21.04.94 Dennis Director wrote to All in USENET.COMP.OS.LINUX.MISC:

DD> I have the new Addtron AE-2000, a NE-2000 compatible
DD> net card.  It works find under DOS talking to OS/2
DD> Lan Server.  But Linux hangs during boot.
DD> I have read in the FAQs about auto-probe problems,
DD> but can't find enough Lilo documentation to know
DD> how to fix the problem.

Remove your net card, boot your system, make your own kernel
which has only the drivers you need ("make config" is the
magic word).

Greetings ... Eberhard


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From: gtaylor@god.ext.tufts.edu (Grant Taylor)
Subject: Re: Amoeba 5.2 now available by FTP for universities
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 1994 04:53:36 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@cs.tufts.edu

>>>>> On Wed, 20 Apr 94 07:46:37 GMT, ftlofaro@unlv.edu (Frank Lofaro) said:
> Original artical was posted to comp.os.linux.announce:
> In article <ann-28989.766768144@cs.cornell.edu> ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) writes:
>>Release 5.2 of the Amoeba Distributed Operating System is now available.
>>[...]
>>Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)
>>
>>--
>>Mail submissions for comp.os.linux.announce to: linux-announce@tc.cornell.edu
>>Be sure to include Keywords: and a short description of your software.
>>-- 
>>Linux: Generous programmers from around the world all join forces to help
>>       you shoot yourself in the foot for free.
>>

>       WHAT THE HELL IS THIS DOING ON COMP.OS.LINUX.ANNOUNCE?!  NOT
> ONLY IS IT NOT ABOUT LINUX, IT IS ABOUT A COMPETING PRODUCT, FOR G*D'S
> SAKE!  And the poster (the ever clueless Andrew S. Tannenbaum, yes,
> the one that FLAMED LINUS TORVALDS!!!) has the NERVE to say what he
> did about Linux in his signature (he wasn't joking, trust me!). That
> signature is OFFENSIVE IN THE EXTREME, and should have NEVER been
> approved by the moderator! 
> [...]

The Linux sig seems to be after the moderator's plug, and what's more,
it appears in several other c.o.l.announce posts that day.  You silly
person - you're complaining about the wrong man.  The `offensive
person' you should be flaming is mdw, the cola guy, the author of
several linux books, and the howto co-ordinator.  And someone who
evidently has more of a sense of humour than you do.

Linux and Amoeba are two different things.  Linux is young and
everywhere.  Amoeba is someone's research for the past 13 years, but
Linux is a useable, stable unix clone.

-grant

ps - only morons post in all caps ;)
-- 
Grant Taylor - gtaylor@cs.tufts.edu - http://www.cs.tufts.edu/~gtaylor/

  --> Read the Linux Printing-HOWTO -- get it from the URL above or <--
        ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO

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