Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #592
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Mon, 24 Jan 94 17:13:09 EST

Linux-Misc Digest #592, Volume #1                Mon, 24 Jan 94 17:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: WUARCHIVE LOST :) (Charles H King)
  Re: MSDOS Better than Linux (R. Schalk)
  Re: Linux (p14) + freeWAIS-0.202 (Arjan de Vet)
  Re: Help on interpreting GNU license and restriction (Kai Petzke)
  SLACKWARE 1.1.1 (Linux 0. (Davin George)
  Re: FTP server under Linux anyone. (Terry Dawson)
  Re: Xmosaic binaries that wok with term? (Terry Dawson)
  Re: Intel Ethernet Express - need advice on checking it (Terry Dawson)
  Re: How to be a dial-up SLIP/PPP *server* (Terry Dawson)
  PCI SCSI support (Derek Seabury)
  Re: MSDOS Better than Linux (Vishal Misra)
  Re: Where is a 680*0 kernel ? (Craig Graham)
  Re: MSDOS Better than Linux (J.J. Paijmans)
  Re: Linux as X-Terminal? No! (Mark A. Davis)
  Re: MSDOS Better than Linux (Mark A. Davis)
  Which is the best distribution for a new user? (Steve J Hanselman)
  Re: Any way to watch a tty port? (Leon Garde)
  Re: MSDOS Better than Linux (Ralph Loader)
  Re: PPP slower than SLIP! (Jeff H.)
  Re: tape drives? (Andrew R. Tefft)
  Re: MSDOS Better than Linux (0000-Admin(0000))
  Any Bugs/Problems with Slackware 1.1.1 CD? (Jean-Paul Chia)
  Re: Help on interpreting GNU license and restriction (Sven Heinicke)
  Re: MSDOS Better than Linux (Jeroen Bosters)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,demon.local,connect.chatter,connect.audit
From: CharlieK@prospect.demon.co.uk (Charles H King)
Subject: Re: WUARCHIVE LOST :)
Reply-To: CharlieK@prospect.demon.co.uk
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 16:01:31 +0000

In article <2hn28o$9v5@hp-col.col.hp.com> terry@col.hp.com "Terry Thero" writes:

>   Some of the stuff was:  WW1 stuff, WW2 aircraft, NoseArt,
>   AutomoXX.jpg, MobikeXX.jpg, HajimeXX.jpg, Boris Vallejo
>   [bvXX.jpg], egyptology, stamps, coins, ships, Vietnam

'ere... urrrrrrr.. gorrr any women?

}:)

-- 
############################################################################
|        -=< Charles H King >=-        \                                   |
|                                       \                        Think Ahea|
|InterNet: CharlieK@prospect.demon.co.uk \                                d|
############################################################################

------------------------------

From: U001295@HNYKUN11.URC.KUN.NL (R. Schalk)
Subject: Re: MSDOS Better than Linux
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 11:55:53 GMT

In article <1994Jan24.112419.8317@black.ox.ac.uk>
univ0020@black.ox.ac.uk (Julian D Glover) writes:
 
>
>In terms of real world work you lusers should realise that MS-DOS and
>MS-Windows is far better than some half assed Unix toy, get a life and
>pay for your software like everyone else you spongers.
 
Oh boy, go do this kind of stuff in alt.fan.bill-gates or whatever and be
prepared to get a LOT of flames. What are "real world people" running on
msloss en mswindoze???? Most are running their games. Oh boy, my most
portant ms-windows program that doesn't crash mswindoze is the included game
mines. Yes, mswindoze is an expensive game-engine!! (BTW I have xbombs, I don't
need mswindoze anymore) What other crucial software is there? Yes, wordproces-
sors. What? not available under Linux, Oh yes: Tex with ghostview and ghost-
script work alright.
 
Unbelievable that such creatures have net-access.
 
 
 
 
********************************************************************
* ing. Ronald Schalk, afdeling CS, sectie COOS                     *
* Universitair Centrum Informatievoorziening (UCI)                 *
* University of Nijmegen (KUN)    snailmail: Geert Grooteplein 41  *
* e-mail : R.Schalk@uci.kun.nl               6525 GA Nijmegen      *
* tel: +31 80 617997 fax: +31 80 617979      The Netherlands       *
********************************************************************

------------------------------

From: devet@wsinis08.info.win.tue.nl (Arjan de Vet)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: Linux (p14) + freeWAIS-0.202
Date: 24 Jan 1994 13:26:56 +0100

In article <CJxr4B.14En@austin.ibm.com>,
Jim O'Quinn <oquinn@risc.austin.ibm.com> wrote:

>I attempted to compile freeWAIS-0.202 on .99 pl14 (Slackware 1.1.1.) and
>got several compile errors.  Some were about alphasort and I don't remember
>the others.  Some were with ir/something.  I have 'em wrote down, but not
>with me.  I'll post later.
>
>I know someone has got it to compile, what was the trick?   I have hacked some
>of the compile errors (alphasort), but haven't hacked the others.  Also,
>I'll post a DETAILED vodo workaround list--unless someone already has one to
>post!

It compiled OK after some small changes but it doesn't work yet on Linux.
Clients cannot connect to the WAIS server when running a standalone one.
Connections succeed for WAIS servers started from inetd but I always get
`nothing found'. It must be a Linux porting problem because I've installed
several versions of WAIS on Suns without problems.

Arjan

--
Arjan de Vet -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Eindhoven University of Technology
Internet : devet@win.tue.nl -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- the Netherlands
X.400    : c=nl;admd=400net;prmd=surf;o=tue;ou=win;s=devet -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

------------------------------

From: wpp@marie (Kai Petzke)
Crossposted-To: gnu.g++,gnu.g++.help,gnu.gcc,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Help on interpreting GNU license and restriction
Date: 24 Jan 1994 12:59:55 GMT

mng@eos.ncsu.edu (MUI-KIM NG) writes:

>   Here is my problem: I need money for school. So, I am planning to sell 
>my applications to a potential customer.  These applications would use gnu
>database and would be compiled gnu g++ and gnu gcc.  Is it still legal to
>sell my applications?

a) It is legal to sell your applications.  You may take as much
   money as you want.

b) Simply using a GNU tool to develop your application does not
   affect your copyright to your applications.  This includes
   using g++ and gcc.

c) However, your copyright is affected, if you include code from
   other GNU applications into yours.  In this case, you have
   to put the resulting ("derived") work under the GNU copyleft.
   That means, that you have to release source code upon request,
   and that your customer(s) may distribute (and/or sell!) copies
   of your source code and/or binary.

d) 99% of all C programs written are linked against the C
   library.  Linking means, that you include GNU code into
   your program.  However, the C library is released under
   special terms (GNU Library Public License, GLPL), which
   allows linking as an exception to what I said in c).

   You can link with the C library at will, but you have to
   provide your program in a form, that the user can update
   the library.  In case of shared linking, this is not a
   problem, but if you want (or must) link with static
   libraries, you must provide your program in a form, which
   has not yet been linked with the static library (say, link
   all your .o-files into one big .o using "ld".  Take a look
   at the kernel sources to see how it works).

e) I don't know about the GNU database.  If it is distributed
   under GNU Public License, GPL, you may link with it, but
   your resulting application is then freeware, too.  If it
   is distributed under GLPL (see d), you can link without
   affecting your copyright.

f) What I said at point a) is always true: you may sell your
   application, whether or not it has to be distributed under
   the GNU copyleft, for as much money as you want.

g) You may try other databases, like Ingres or Postgres.  The
   first is public domain anyway, and the restrictions upon
   the second are much lower.

>   If it is not legal, then why can people sell Motif toolkit, 
>which is compiled with GNU gcc?

It is legal to sell applications compiled with gcc.
-- 
Kai Petzke <wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de>
Advertisement by Microsoft in a well-known German magazine:
        If you don't like our programmes, then make your own ones.
However, they expect you to use Microsoft products for this -:)

------------------------------

From: davin.george@welcom.gen.nz (Davin George)
Subject: SLACKWARE 1.1.1 (Linux 0.
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 1994 07:58:00 GMT


J >SLACKWARE 1.1.1 (Linux 0.99.14 ) ON CD-ROM - ONLY $9.95
J >The cost of the CD is only $9.95. ( Yes its $9.95 ). There is a reason
J >for the low price,  I do not have a interest in making huge profit out
J >free software that so many people spend all there time working on it.I
J >you cant afford to pay this amount  E-Mail me and I will send you a
J >free CD.

We're arranging payment and would like to order two of these Cds at $9.95
each plus $9.95 for P&p. Can you please fax us some information to
0064-4-3852-868 as theres definitely two of us that are interested in
ordering these with hopefully a few others as well. Any information you
can supply us would be greatly appreciated. If you wish to Email a reply
to me can you use George_D@Kosmos.Wcc.Govt.Nz. Its the only Internet
address I have. Can't really justify the address through my current
support board. Thanks very much. We'll be faxing yourselves next week with
the Visa details. Thanks again.

                                                Catch Ye Later
                                                 Davin George

PS. Does this Cd contain working UUCP, MAIL, TCP/IP
and the FAQS and any installation instructions?
Thank you.


    WinQwk 2.0 a#0

------------------------------

From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: FTP server under Linux anyone.
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 12:46:11 GMT

<3JJN3@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:

>Any one out there running a FTP server under Linux. I would like
>to set up a anonymous FTP server, I got the HW, but no SW. The internet
>connection will be SLIP using 28.8 K modems. CPU will be 486-66 with
>4 GB Hard drive.

yes plenty of people. For the information you require:
Check:
sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/NET-2-HOWTO
  for the HOWTO file for the Linux Kernel Networking code, and:

sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/linux-doc-project/network-guide/*
  for Olaf Kirch's excellent Network Administration Guide, which describes
  such things as how to configure network applications and provides a general
  introduction to tcp/ip networking.

Terry

-- 
--- Terry Dawson, terryd@extro.ucc.su.oz.au

------------------------------

From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: Xmosaic binaries that wok with term?
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 12:47:11 GMT

gt4565d@prism.gatech.EDU (Aaron M. Sims) writes:

>       Where can I find binaries for xmosaic that work with term?  I snagged
>the binaries off of tsx-11, but it didn't work.  

There is a binary distribution for XMOsaic-2.0 on sunsite.unc.edu
compiled for term that I am using at this very moment. It works
just fine.

sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/apps/comm/term/Mosaic-2.0.tar.gz (I think)

Terry

-- 
--- Terry Dawson, terryd@extro.ucc.su.oz.au

------------------------------

From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: Intel Ethernet Express - need advice on checking it
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 12:55:43 GMT

rahtz@dxcern.cern.ch (Sebastian Rahtz) writes:

>work, of course, never gets past "ifconfig eth0". What bothers me is that I have no
>idea if Linux is *finding* the board at all. is there *anything* i have 
>to do apart from comoiling support in the kernel? no configuration? no telling it what 
>interrupts to use and all that? there are cryptic comments in the Ethernet HOWTO about
>passing things in with lilo, but i dont follow that. where does such info go?

The kernel boot messages should tell if the card is detected ok.
Ethernet Card configuration is discussed in the Ethernet HOWTO.

Terry

-- 
--- Terry Dawson, terryd@extro.ucc.su.oz.au

------------------------------

From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: How to be a dial-up SLIP/PPP *server*
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 1994 12:57:33 GMT

morley@suncad.camosun.bc.ca (Mark Morley) writes:

>Is there a SLIP FAQ?  (I suspect there is and will look for it right now) 
>Any and all advice greatly appreciated!

Check:
sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/NET-2-HOWTO
  for the HOWTO file for the Linux Kernel Networking code, and:

sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/docs/linux-doc-project/network-guide/*
  for Olaf Kirch's excellent Network Administration Guide, which describes
  such things as how to configure network applications and provides a general
  introduction to tcp/ip networking.

Terry


-- 
--- Terry Dawson, terryd@extro.ucc.su.oz.au

------------------------------

From: sseabury@server.cs.jhu.edu (Derek Seabury)
Subject: PCI SCSI support
Date: 24 Jan 1994 13:42:17 GMT

Is anyone working to develop PCI SCSI drivers for Linux?

I love linux on our 486-33, but having two pentiums just sitting around
is driving me nuts!

Derek


------------------------------

From: vmisra@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Vishal Misra)
Subject: Re: MSDOS Better than Linux
Date: 24 Jan 1994 13:20:07 GMT

>>>>> "Julian" == Julian D Glover <univ0020@black.ox.ac.uk> writes:

    Julian> In terms of real world work you lusers should realise that
    Julian> MS-DOS and MS-Windows is far better than some half assed
    Julian> Unix toy, get a life and pay for your software like
    Julian> everyone else you spongers.

Your friendly neighbourhood flame bait of the day!
                                                  Vishal



------------------------------

From: Craig.Graham@newcastle.ac.uk (Craig Graham)
Subject: Re: Where is a 680*0 kernel ?
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 12:58:33 GMT


In article <2i01ar$i4a@erinews.ericsson.se>, bosse@ericsson.se (Bo-Erik Sandholm) writes:
>I have a friend who is interested in porting Linux to a 680*0 platform.
>I have a memory of somebody already having done some work in this
>direction, can any body give me a pointer.
>
>---
>Bo-Erik Sandholm   bosse@snoddas.ericsson.se
>Working for Ericsson Telecom Stockholm, Sweden
>

Which 680x0 machine ? There is an Amiga port (although the mailing group
has been a bit slow lately), and some work was done on an Atari TT port as
well,  but I've not heard anything lately.....

I'd love to see some progress on them though.

Craig.

Craig Graham.     /\  E-mail:Craig.Graham@newcastle.ac.uk
BAe Space Systems ||  Phone : (UK) 091 4883098
Stevenage,England.||  Snail-mail: 2 Sun Street, Suniside, Newcastle, England.
=================/__\===========================================================
  SPACE the final^^^^frontier. Seen it,done it,read the book,got the T-shirt....

------------------------------

From: paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans)
Subject: Re: MSDOS Better than Linux
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 14:06:05 GMT

In article <1994Jan24.112419.8317@black.ox.ac.uk> univ0020@black.ox.ac.uk (Julian D Glover) writes:
>In terms of real world work you lusers should realise that MS-DOS and
>MS-Windows is far better than some half assed Unix toy, get a life and
>pay for your software like everyone else you spongers.
>

Like I said before: some of those Satan- Jesus- and Microsoft-freaks
always are good for a laugh...
Paai.




------------------------------

Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: Linux as X-Terminal? No!
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 13:19:59 GMT

hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr) writes:

>>
>>Not to my knowledge- but rest assured that Xterminal speeds will most likely
>>increase also (its not an industry in a vacuum).  Personally, I think that
>>100k xstones is about all that is needed in most circomstances- it is very
>>much more comfortable than the < 10k xstone performance of typical ET4000
>>cards (a factor of 10) ; but I'm not sure that a factor of ten more
>>(1,000,000) would be that much more noticable (perhaps a human perception
>>thing).

>Would not be surprised to see a special ASIC to handle the X protocols
>to generate 1,000,000k xstones (Please don't ask me about this because this
>all I know)

Wow

>As far as I am concerned the et4000 is obsolete;nevertheless, I understand
>your point. The current 2D technology in the leading graphic card's
>technology such as the Viper, Matrox MGA, #9 S3 928 based cards are
>perhaps more than adequate performance wise. However, once we
>entered animation, 3D graphics, Video, or Virtual Reality I don't see a 
>place for X terminals.

Why?  That might be a silly thing to say- I have herd of PEX terminals....
who knows what the future holds!  Perhaps extensions to X will make remote
and distributed 3-D/video/etc graphics doable. 

>My current pet projects are sound and a Virtual Reality system and
>I will deliver :-)

What kind of virtual reality?
-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | mark@taylor.wyvern.com   .uucp |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

------------------------------

From: mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis)
Subject: Re: MSDOS Better than Linux
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 13:22:00 GMT

univ0020@black.ox.ac.uk (Julian D Glover) writes:

>In terms of real world work you lusers should realise that MS-DOS and
>MS-Windows is far better than some half assed Unix toy, get a life and
>pay for your software like everyone else you spongers.

If the quality of this posting matches the quality of MS-"DOS" and MS-"Windows",
then no version of Unix ever has anything to fear.  "Those who can do, those
who can't are forced to let others do it for them".


-- 
  /--------------------------------------------------------------------------\
  | Mark A. Davis    | Lake Taylor Hospital | Norfolk, VA (804)-461-5001x431 |
  | Sys.Administrator|  Computer Services   | mark@taylor.wyvern.com   .uucp |
  \--------------------------------------------------------------------------/

------------------------------

From: steveh@brendata.demon.co.uk (Steve J Hanselman)
Subject: Which is the best distribution for a new user?
Reply-To: steveh@brendata.demon.co.uk
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 13:56:29 +0000


Having read the installation-howto (which says use SLS)
and the FAQ (which says use anything but SLS)
and inspected the FTP sites (which have SLS.old and say that it is buggy)

which is the best distribution to use with the following requirements:

I wish to easily ftp the files
I am installing on an MSDOS based machine (486SX25 w. 4MB ram 170Mb hd, VGA
and 3.5" floppy)

I wish to run (apart from the kernel) TCP/IP, newsreaders, mail and X,
maybe gnuc when my extra 16mb is delivered.

Any help appreciated, I agree that this is probably in a FAQ but re-reading
the start of this note I'm sure you'll appreciate why I'm asking.

Thanks
-- 
Steve J Hanselman
Steveh@brendata.demon.co.uk       |    I went to a fight
+44 (0268) 490280                 |    and an Ice Hockey match broke out
Laindon, Essex.  UK


------------------------------

Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.programmer
From: lgarde@scorch.hna.com.au (Leon Garde)
Subject: Re: Any way to watch a tty port?
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 1994 21:41:00 GMT

barkers@cuug.ab.ca (Scott Barker) writes:

'Is there any way for a program to observe everything which occurs at a tty
'port? I'm trying to figure out how my UPS converses with the supplied UNIX
'SVR4 software, so that I can write my own daemon for it under linux. I need to
'be able to tell how the port is configured, and what signals are passed back
'and forth. I figured that I could set up some sort of pipe to watch data flow,
'but that doesn't help me with the port configuration (ioctl's).

'Any ideas?

you want to monitor the data on the serial line ? then 
patch the serial line into another uart !
That will work successfully unless flow  rate stuff up things ...
flow control wont work for the uart that is doing the eavesdropping;
well not without a few fancy tricks i think may work;


or can you just run the UPS daemon through pipes ?
then 'tee' copies ouput to two different file descriptors.

or use other software. trace or equivalent, which may give you a lot
of extra information ...



'--
'Scott Barker
'barkers@cuug.ab.ca

leon
'"Love sickness is like sea sickness... You think you are going to die, and
'   everyone else thinks it's hilarious!!!"
'   - Orson Welles

------------------------------

From: loader@maths.ox.ac.uk (Ralph Loader)
Subject: Re: MSDOS Better than Linux
Date: 24 Jan 1994 14:01:43 GMT

In article <1994Jan24.112419.8317@black.ox.ac.uk> univ0020@black.ox.ac.uk (Julian D Glover) writes:

   In terms of real world work you lusers should realise that MS-DOS and
   MS-Windows is far better than some half assed Unix toy, get a life and
   pay for your software like everyone else you spongers.

Before anyone flames this guy too badly, he was silly enough to leave his
terminal logged on when he wasn't present ...



------------------------------

From: jeffh@cybernetics.com (Jeff H.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: PPP slower than SLIP!
Date: 23 Jan 1994 15:47:15 -0500

I have the same problem.  My PPP ping times are around 500ms...this is
terrible!  Anyone have any suggestions to fix this?  I am coming into a
morningstar server, so things should be ok on that end.

Jeff Hoffman
-- 
+--
|       Jeff Hoffman       |  MUSHer extraordinaire and proud 3DO owner!
   jeffh@cybernetics.com   |   Dylan@TheDAMNED, Mordrin@CityOfDarkness       |
                                                                           --+

------------------------------

From: teffta@cs690-3.erie.ge.com (Andrew R. Tefft)
Subject: Re: tape drives?
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:06:14 GMT

In article <1994Jan21.092309.2521@desaster.sunflower.sub.org>,
Michael Will <michaelw@desaster.sunflower.sub.org> wrote:
>jaewan@uful07.phys.ufl.edu (Jaewan Kim) writes:
>>What type of tape drive is best for linux?
>Scsi-drive. I use the Wangtec-5525ES-SCSI-Drive, which can stream 525MB to
>a tape, has QIC-60 read, and QIC-120 to QIC-520 read-write capability.

Ok let's rephrase the question:

What's the most cost-effective tape drive solution for Linux,
for people who do not have SCSI at the moment? i.e. is there
a cheap scsi card/tape drive combo that works reasonably well
(performance is not everything)? 

I would love scsi, if only for the future expandability, but
the price of vlb scsi adapters seems to be so high that it
effectively doubles the cost per meg for the normal size disks
people buy nowadays (200-400 megs, forget it you 1 gigers, you
are loaded, face it), which really means that it's not as popular
in new systems as it should be.

-- 

Andy Tefft               - new, expanded .sig -     teffta@cs690-3.erie.ge.com

------------------------------

From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (0000-Admin(0000))
Subject: Re: MSDOS Better than Linux
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:08:46 GMT

(cat << __EOF__
Julian D Glover (univ0020@black.ox.ac.uk) wrote:
: In terms of real world work you lusers should realise that MS-DOS and
: MS-Windows is far better than some half assed Unix toy, get a life and
: pay for your software like everyone else you spongers.
__EOF__
) > /dev/null

Your MessyDos can't do this, uh?

Steef
--
S.G. de Bruijn
Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science 
E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl
=============================== @@ ===============================
\font\sig=handwriting at 25pt
\sig
Did you ever write a compiler in TeX?
\bye
== Signature under construction
\newread\inputfile
\newwrite\outputfile
\def\compile#1{%Compile input file #1
  \immediate\write16{Compiling #1.tex...}
  \openin\inputfile=#1
  \ifeof\inputfile
     \closein\inputfile
     \immediate\write16{Could not open input file #1.tex!}
  \else
  \fi
}


------------------------------

From: jean-paul@garion.it.com.au (Jean-Paul Chia)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Any Bugs/Problems with Slackware 1.1.1 CD?
Date: 24 Jan 1994 22:28:22 +0800

Hi..
I'm thinking of buying the Slackware 1.1.1 CD.. but first I'd like to find
out if anyone has expirenced any problams bugs or errors with the CD.. be it
Hardware conflict, Software configering or configuration, etc.. I might
compile a list of bugs/errors.. If you have had any ANY problems with it..
then send them to: jean-paul@garion.it.com.au
Thanks...
--
     _  Jean-Paul Chia  ___           _
 _  | |___ __ _ _ _ ___| _ \__ _ _  _| |
| |_| / -_) _` | ' \___|  _/ _` | || | |
 \___/\___\__,_|_||_|  |_| \__,_|\_,_|_| ___ _    _
12 Guinevere Way,        +61-9-447-6261 / __| |_ (_)__ _
Carine, WA 6020     jpchia@DIALix.oz.au| (__| ' \| / _` |
Australia    jean-paul@garion.it.com.au \___|_||_|_\__,_|

------------------------------

Crossposted-To: gnu.g++,gnu.g++.help,gnu.gcc,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.help
From: sven@bradbury.nrl.navy.mil (Sven Heinicke)
Subject: Re: Help on interpreting GNU license and restriction
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 14:42:35 GMT

In article <2i0gob$qtv@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> wpp@marie (Kai Petzke) writes:

   mng@eos.ncsu.edu (MUI-KIM NG) writes:
   >   Here is my problem: I need money for school. So, I am planning to sell 
   >my applications to a potential customer.  These applications would use gnu
   >database and would be compiled gnu g++ and gnu gcc.  Is it still legal to
   >sell my applications?

descriptions of GPL and GLPL removed . . .

perhaps we need a file called COPYING.english and COPYING.leaglieze to
be put someplace.  :-)


                        Sven



------------------------------

From: jbosters@kub.nl (Jeroen Bosters)
Subject: Re: MSDOS Better than Linux
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 94 14:23:32 GMT
Reply-To: j.bosters@kub.nl

In article <1994Jan24.112419.8317@black.ox.ac.uk>, univ0020@black.ox.ac.uk (Julian D Glover) writes:
|> In terms of real world work you lusers should realise that MS-DOS and
|> MS-Windows is far better than some half assed Unix toy, get a life and
|> pay for your software like everyone else you spongers.
|> 

Unix-toy? What are you talking 'bout... m$-dos and M$-Windoze are the two bugiest pieces
of software I ever heard of. And to spend money on something that stinks that much, Nah.

-- 

 Jeroen Bosters     | Student of Information Management & Psychology      
 Tilburg University | Email: J.Bosters@kub.nl   
 Infolab, B303      | " The prince of darkness is a gentleman... Modo he's 
 The Netherlands    |   ... he's called and Mahu ..."  Shakespeare, King Lear  

------------------------------


** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **

The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:

    Internet: Linux-Misc-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU

You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:

    Internet: Linux-Misc@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU

Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    nic.funet.fi				pub/OS/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu				pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu				pub/Linux

End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************
