Subject: Linux-Misc Digest #571
From: Digestifier <Linux-Misc-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Reply-To: Linux-Misc@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
Date:     Wed, 19 Jan 94 10:13:18 EST

Linux-Misc Digest #571, Volume #1                Wed, 19 Jan 94 10:13:18 EST

Contents:
  Re: Term == SLIP ? (Christopher Samuel)
  Has anyone installed the TransAm Slackware CD? (Daniel Damon Roscigno)
  Re: LGX Installation (Rick)
  Re: Any way to watch a tty port? (Thanh Ma)
  Re: Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon (Pangaea)
  [Q] Pentium or 486DX2.... (Chris Bradshaw)
  REPOST: Slackware 1.1.0 (now 1.1.1), mouse problems ("Joel L. Seber ... CH210")
  Re: Has anyone installed the TransAm Slackware CD? (J.J. Paijmans)
  rawdsk11.arj (Part 1/1) Backing up Linux from DOS: rawdisk.sys (Binary!) (Martin.Kraemer)

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Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix
From: ccs@aber.ac.uk (Christopher Samuel)
Subject: Re: Term == SLIP ?
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 11:35:19 GMT

In article <1994Jan19.063832.2117@icaen.uiowa.edu> of comp.security.unix,
        dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu () doodled:

>2)  A Linux box in a net behind a firewall.  Maybe telnet and other regular
>    ports to the "mainframe" are blocked at the router.  A guy sets up his
>    Linux box with some higher numbered port not always blocked by firewalls
>    as a telnet server, and then the attacker can attack machines inside the
>    firewall from inside, where no ports are blocked.  So much for the
>    firewall!

s/Linux/generic UNIX/g

Chris
-- 
Christopher Samuel, Computer Unit, U.W Aberystwyth, Aberystwyth, WALES
E-mail: ccs@aber.ac.uk         PGP 2.3 public key available on request
Warning!  Somebody reset junk--assuming nothing read.

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From: ddr@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Daniel Damon Roscigno)
Subject: Has anyone installed the TransAm Slackware CD?
Date: 19 Jan 1994 11:40:20 GMT

I am waiting to receive the latest TransAm CD and want to prepare for the 
installation.  I have read the Install/Users guide and have installed a minimal
SLS system in the past.  If anyone has any hints regarding difficulties that
they personally had with this CD please email me so that I can avoid them 
(maybe :))  Thanks!

Dan.

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From: rick@razorback.brisnet.org.au (Rick)
Subject: Re: LGX Installation
Date: 19 Jan 1994 20:41:06 +1000

scot@si.ucsc.edu (Scott Derrick) writes:

>[02] : Asteroids does not operate correctly :

>       >it just doesn't accept input.  This is because asteroids doesn't do a 
>       > XGrabKeyboard, and anything you type gets sent to the root window.  
>       > Watching the rocks fly around is interesting, but I'd rather use 
>       > xfishtank for mobile wallpaper.

Only seems to occur with fvwm - something to do with the way fvwm
handles focus.  Apply the following patch to asteriods:

*** /system_cd/usr/src/games/xaster-1.00/plot.xwin.c    Tue Aug 14 07:37:54 1990
--- ./plot.xwin.c       Sat Oct 16 22:20:19 1993
***************
*** 67,72 ****
--- 67,73 ----
      XDefineCursor(plot_display, plot_window, cursor);
  
      XMapRaised(plot_display, plot_window);
+     XGrabKeyboard(plot_display, plot_window, TRUE, GrabModeAsync, GrabModeAsync, CurrentTime);
      XSync(plot_display, FALSE);
      return(TRUE);
  }

>[05] : Resizing a window (fvwm window manager) causes vi (if running) to be
>       terminated. Also occurs using twm under XFree-2.0.
>       [ emacs allows resizing ]

Get elvis-1.8 or apply the following patch to elvis-1.7:

--- /system_cd/usr/src/usr.bin/elvis-1.7/unix.c Wed Jan  6 09:26:50 1993
+++ unix.c      Wed Dec  8 21:34:49 1993
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
 #if ANY_UNIX
 # include "vi.h"
 
-# if BSD
+# if defined(BSD) || defined(LINUX)
 /* For BSD, we use select() to wait for characters to become available,
  * and then do a read() to actually get the characters.  We also try to
  * handle SIGWINCH -- if the signal arrives during the select() call, then

-- 
 _-_|\  | Rick Lyons : C/C++/X/Unix/DOS/86/DSP | "Sometimes, I think the proof
/     + | rick@razorback.brisnet.org.au        | that intelligent life exists
\_.-._/ | Work: +61.7.837.4008 (2300-0700 GMT) | elsewhere in the Universe is
     v  | Home: +61.7.349.2764 (0800-1300 GMT) | that it hasn't contacted us."

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.programmer
From: tma@encore.com (Thanh Ma)
Subject: Re: Any way to watch a tty port?
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 12:45:03 GMT

snelson@ptdca2.intel.com (Shannon Nelson) writes:

>In article <CJr8G8.2z2@cuug.ab.ca> barkers@cuug.ab.ca (Scott Barker) writes:
>>Is there any way for a program to observe everything which occurs at a tty
>>port? I'm trying to figure out how my UPS converses with the supplied UNIX
>>SVR4 software, so that I can write my own daemon for it under linux. I need to
>>be able to tell how the port is configured, and what signals are passed back
>>and forth. I figured that I could set up some sort of pipe to watch data flow,
>>but that doesn't help me with the port configuration (ioctl's).
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>

>Try using truss on the UPS monitor program.  I've used it for similar
>peeking into what other programs are doing.  It will tell you of all the OS
>calls and their arguments.  Either truss the currently running program
>(truss -p <pid>) or start the program under truss (truss upsdaemon).  There
>are various arguments that affect the output printed.


What is UPS, please ?

-- 
--
Thanh Ma
tma@encore.com

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Crossposted-To: alt.flame
From: gramlich@nibelung.Worms.Fh-Rpl.DE (Pangaea)
Subject: Re: Global Alert For All: Jesus is Coming Soon
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 1994 10:03:56 GMT

In article <CJuGpJ.I5v@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, doolitt@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (Larry Doolittle) writes:
|> In article <1994Jan18.151015.15716@thelake.mn.org>, steve@thelake.mn.org
|> (Steve Yelvington) writes:
|> 
|> I have to assume that this "idiot" is really some poor schmuck
                             """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""       
|> of an undergrad who left his terminal logged in.  There must
   """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

I have my doubts!!!
I have fingered this guy and found another address:

        redwood.cc.andrews.edu

And then it made "click" - there is this college somewhere in the States -
Andrews College. Using the gopher I found a list of students. And there he
is - two times Clarence L. Thomas IV. 
The school belongs to the adventists - I think this is for real.

        Thilo
        _________________________________________________
        \       gramlich@nibelung.worms.fh-rpl.de       /
         \                                             /
          \             REUNITE PANGAEA!              /
           \ ________________________________________/

        This message was brought to you from the romantical 
                          Rhine valley, 
                   just beside the BASF AG ... 

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From: chris@jbasp.demon.co.uk (Chris Bradshaw)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: [Q] Pentium or 486DX2....
Date: 19 Jan 1994 13:28:38 -0000

Greetings Netters....
I am on the (steep) verge of buying my first PC, and am trying to buy the
best system for use with Linux and Xfree. I was wondering if anyone could
give me some advice or opinions on the two machines I currently have in mind.

The first machine I am considering is:

        Gateway 2000 P5 Pentium (256k cache) system with PCI local bus, 
        15" monitor, 
        424 Mb IDE drive, 
        16Mb RAM, 
        PCI LB ATI Ultra Pro 2Mb accelerated graphics adapter.
        Price=~#2,300 ex VAT


The other machine I am considering is:

        Vale 486DX2 66 Mhz (256k cache) with VESA Local Bus, 
        15" monitor, 
        450 Mb IDE drive with a 2 Mb VLB caching controller,
        16Mb RAM, 
        VLB Prolink Cirrus Logic 5428 1 Mb acclerated graphics adapter.
        Price=~#2,000 ex VAT


As far as I am aware, all of the above hardware is supported by Linux 
and Xfree. The two points I am most concerned about are the disk and
the display adapter. Are there PCI based local bus disk caching controllers
on the horizon and if so, will they be supported by Linux? If the answer is
no to either of these questions, then if I go for the 486, will the 2Mb VLB
caching controller make a great difference when using Linux & Xfree?
As regards the display adapters, is either of the above cards considered
better/faster/more suitable for use with Linux or Xfree? Can Xfree support 
the maximum resolutions of either of these cards? At 1024x768x256, is either
one of these cards significantly better or faster under Xfree? 

Finally, given that Pentium & PCI are relatively new technologies, in the 
long term it is reasonable to expect that 486's and VLB might/will be 
superceded by these new systems. Would it be worthwhile to get the Pentium,
and add things like a hard disk caching controller later?

If I sound confused....its because I am. Apart from the above questions, 
I would really appreciate anyones opinions or thoughts on the pro's and con's
of going for either one of the above machines. If requested, or it seems 
worthwhile, I will post a summary of my findings. Any and all replies are
as always greatly appreciated. Thanx a million in advance.   

--

 Chris Bradshaw......a potential buyer losing his mind.....
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 JBA Software Products Ltd.,  |   Internet:   chris@jbasp.demon.co.uk
 Eagle House,                 |    
 Studley,                     |   Voice:      (0527) 854525
 Warwickshire B80 7EN,        |   FAX:        (0527) 857146   
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From: "Joel L. Seber ... CH210" <JLS2013@tntech.edu>
Subject: REPOST: Slackware 1.1.0 (now 1.1.1), mouse problems
Date: 19 Jan 1994 09:42:16 -0500
Reply-To: JLS2013@tntech.edu

My original message was:

|I have a Logitech bus mouse and have installed slackware 1.1.0.  When I
|boot, the mouse is recognized, but when I try to run any application that
|uses it, I am told the device is busy.  I am not running 'selection'.  I
|have an ATI Mach 32 VESA video card, 66Mhz 486, 16MB RAM, Ultrastor 34F SCSI
|controller, 1.3GB Connor HD, Toshiba 2x CD-ROM, Archive Viper 250MB tape
|backup.
|
|BTW, I tried 'fuser /dev/mouse' and got nothing back.
|
|Can anyone help?
|

Since then, I downloaded the updated 'a' series disks with an updated kernal
and installed them.  Linux still runs fine except for my mouse.  I did
neglect to say above that I have my bus mouse's card set to IRQ 5.
I also made sure the symbolic link to /dev/mouse from the logitech bus mouse 
device (it's name escapes me at the moment) was correct.  I have tried
bypassing /dev/mouse in Xconfig and entering the absolute device name in
/dev; no go.  The mouse works in all apps fine under MS-DOS 6.2.

As far as I can tell through software (QEMM's Manifest under DOS) and checks
of every board (I removed each looking for jumpers/DIP switches and also
checked the manuals for each board), I have no other devices using IRQ 5.
One respondant suggested I do a custom kernal.  I will try that as time
permits, but I thought I could save time if someone else had had this
problem already.  BTW, I have also had at least one "me too" response, so I
feel this is worth pursueing.

ANY suggestions at this point are welcome!  I will summarize to the list
when I get the problem solved.  If nothing else, I can buy a serial mouse,
but I'd really rather use a bus mouse to free up both my serial ports.

Thanks in advance,

Joel L. Seber                           | Dry humor is wasted around here.
SUN Workstation Laboratory Manager      |
Center for Manufacturing Research       |                 -Joel L. Seber
      and Technology Utilization        |
Tennessee Technological University      | recursive, adj.
Cookeville, TN  38505                   |     See 'recursive'
                                        |
jls2013@tntech.edu                      |


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From: paai@kub.nl (J.J. Paijmans)
Subject: Re: Has anyone installed the TransAm Slackware CD?
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 94 14:07:18 GMT

In article <2hj674$4tp@snoopy.cis.ufl.edu> ddr@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Daniel Damon Roscigno) writes:
>I am waiting to receive the latest TransAm CD and want to prepare for the 
>installation.  I have read the Install/Users guide and have installed a minimal
>SLS system in the past.  If anyone has any hints regarding difficulties that
>they personally had with this CD please email me so that I can avoid them 
>(maybe :))  Thanks!
>
>Dan.

The one I got two months ago had a ugly typo in the installation
script. Can't remember exactly what, but it was in the name of
a subdirectory. (ussr\bin in stead of usr\bin or something like
that) I notified them so it should be fixed by now. If not:
dig out a diskeditor and be prepared to fix it.

Paai.



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From: martin@deejai.mch.sni.de (Martin.Kraemer)
Subject: rawdsk11.arj (Part 1/1) Backing up Linux from DOS: rawdisk.sys (Binary!)
Date: 19 Jan 1994 14:43:10 GMT
Reply-To: Reinhard.Schiedermeier@deejai.mch.sni.de

  There is a DOS driver ("rawdisk.sys") that makes all of your hd
   partitions show up as additional "drives".                                    
  Each one of the drives contains just a single file                            
  that contains the binary image of the partition.                              
  You can backup and restore these pseudo drives with standard DOS software.    
  
  I use this driver to backup my Linux partitions to a Colorado streamer.       
  The Colorado software compression shrinks the partition image                 
  considerably,                                                                 
  if you overwrite the unused parts of the Linux filesystem with zeroes
  (something like "dd if=/dev/zero of=zerofile bs=8192 count=8192;rm zerofile") 
  before you backup.                                                            
  Ok, useless if your fs is full of .gzs and .gifs.                             
  
  I restored Linux partitions from these backups several times                  
  and had no problems so far.                                                   

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