Subject: Linux-Development Digest #319
From: Digestifier <Linux-Development-Request@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>
To: Linux-Development@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU
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Date:     Tue, 21 Dec 93 00:13:08 EST

Linux-Development Digest #319, Volume #1         Tue, 21 Dec 93 00:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Merry XMAS and thanks (Dave Truckenmiller)
  IDE Tape support (Paul Nixon)
  Re: Merry XMAS and thanks (Mario Camou)
  Re: xBASE for Linux? (Brad Eacker)
  Re: UltraStor-34F SCSI CTL and Bus Mastering (Sohail M. Parekh)
  q: linux on MIPS or AXP? (lembark@ug.eds.com)
  Support for wd8013 and hp27247 network cards (Doug Stevenson)
  Re: Merry XMAS and thanks (Peter Bovey)
  Re: ncurses not complete>?? (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim)
  Re: Caching and extra drives (was: IDE CACHE BOARD with Linux??) (Jouni A Kosonen)
  Re: kmem-ps patches from 0.99.14 to 0.99.14f? (Bob Martin)
  Re: Merry XMAS and thanks (Aschwin Gopalan [Student])
  Re: Merry $*!@ing Christmas! (belou)
  Any document for the net-code in the kernel ?? (Fu-Shen Ho)
  Re: AMI FastDisk comments, please. (Mike Horwath)
  Re: Merry $*!@ing Christmas! (J. Eric Townsend)
  hello (MATT_J@HOLONET.NET)
  BIOS disk driver (James Jegers)

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From: trucken@deci.cs.umn.edu (Dave Truckenmiller)
Subject: Re: Merry XMAS and thanks
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 18:31:38 GMT

In <jimdCICA3z.BtH@netcom.com> jimd@netcom.com (Jim Dodd) writes:

>I'm tired of all the complaints, and figured others are too. 

Ditto.

Linux is great, and has changed the way I work.  This past year since
I've started running Linux has been lots of fun.  Thanks to all those
out there that have made it so!  Linux is one of those things without 
which I can't imagine how I could survive.  I can't imagine using 
anything else.  Thanks for all the good work, and have a wonderful New Year!

-Dave
--
==== _.. ___ ... ====|~~--V   ___________________ ._.. .. _. .._ _.._ 
Dave Truckenmiller   |___II   Linux, Linux, Linux,  L   i  n  u    x 
trucken@cs.umn.edu or trucken@sebic.mn.org   *.tc.umn.edu is unsecure

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From: pnixon@ccd.harris.com (Paul Nixon)
Subject: IDE Tape support
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 17:58:09 GMT


Hello,

I have a Summit SE305 tape drive that uses the IDE controller.  I can
set it up for QIC40, QIC80, and Summit proprietary modes.  I was wondering
if there are any drivers for this drive.  I currently am running SLS .99pl13
with XFree86 1.3.       

Regards,

Paul Nixon

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From: camou@csid.gmeds.com (Mario Camou)
Subject: Re: Merry XMAS and thanks
Date: 20 Dec 1993 13:05:49 -0500

jimd@netcom.com (Jim Dodd) writes:
: I'm tired of all the complaints, and figured others are too. 
: 
: So,  I thought I would wish all of you a Merry XMAS, and to extend my
: thanks to all the work that has been done over the last year by all
: the developers.
: 
: Linux isn't perfect, but I have seen commercial products that weren't as 
: good. So I'm over joyed to have it. And, you have my support and best
: wishes in the upcoming year. 
: 
: Please, keep up the good work and enjoy the holiday season.

Me too, I'd just like to congratulate all of the people involved in
Linux for putting out an EXCELLENT product. "E Pluribus Linux"!

Have a great time during the holidays,
-- 
Mario Camou / EDS Mexico Client-Server Integration Team
From Mexico City, the smog capital of the world
==============================================================================
My opinions are only mine, mine, MINE!

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From: beacker@tomahawk.asd.sgi.com (Brad Eacker)
Crossposted-To: comp.databases.xbase.misc
Subject: Re: xBASE for Linux?
Date: 20 Dec 1993 19:33:42 GMT

In article <1993Dec18.170751.2242@lisse.NA> el@lisse.NA (Dr Eberhard
W Lisse) writes:

>Brad Beacker <beacker@sgi.com> has written some dbase tools that
>compile and work on linux.

     Just wanted to let people know that the name here is Brad Eacker :-).
I can see how the login name can confuse people...  And yes there is
a version that has been posted to comp.sources.misc.
                Brad (beacker@sgi.com)

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From: sohail@trixie (Sohail M. Parekh)
Subject: Re: UltraStor-34F SCSI CTL and Bus Mastering
Reply-To: sohail@rhonda.jsc.nasa.gov
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 20:04:57 GMT

Sohail M. Parekh (sohail@trixie) wrote:
: I have noticed in the SCSI-HOWTO under section-3/Subsection-K&L for 
: an UltraStor 34F SCSI disk controller for I/O it says, 

I have recently upgraded my OS to p14 and applied the cluster.05.tar.Z 
patches and walla, it magic! The performance has shot-up:

        UsedToBe                        NowIs
        --------                        -----

Read/s   300-500K                       600-700K
Write/s  300-400K                       1200-1600K

It seems like the cluster.05.tar.Z did the magic! Bravo Eric Y., what an
excellent job. Thanks to everyone who sent me a note on this.


Sincerely,

Sohail
--
     Sohail M. Parekh                Grumman  Data Systems
     sohail@rhonda.jsc.nasa.gov      12000 Aerospace Ave. 
     (713) 483-5912                  Houston, TX 77034

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From: lembark@ug.eds.com
Subject: q: linux on MIPS or AXP?
Date: 20 Dec 93 12:42:05 PDT

has anyone attempted / succeeded in porting linux to either a MIPS or an AXP
(e.g., AXP-150/XX or AXP-2000/XX).

yes, it is an odd question.  i may have the chance to get one of these cheap,
however, and it would be nice to have an o/s to load onto it...

thanx,
steve lembark
(lembark%workhorse@oxy.edu <- probably NOT what 'reply-to:' says!!!)

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From: dmsteven@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Doug Stevenson)
Subject: Support for wd8013 and hp27247 network cards
Date: 20 Dec 1993 21:49:25 GMT

In the pl14 distribution of linux, is there support for the WD8013 and 
hp27247 cards?  If so, why do they not work worth crap?

In a howto, I read that the quickest and easiest install would be to buy a
WD8013.  This is not the case where I am.  I tried a spare 8013 here, and
linux always picks it up at the wrong shared memory address.  I think it is
always found at 0x82000.  The card just does not work with linux.

In addition, I read there was support for the HP27247A.  Linux does not even
recognize the fact that there is one in my PC.  I have tried recompiling the
kernel a hundred different times and I even tried to force some of the flags
for compilition of the appropriate drivers.

However, a 3c503 works with no questions asked.  This is most odd.  It's a 
shame that none of the 16 bit cards work here.

I have also read in some other files I found in my slackware distribution
that the kernel does NOT support the wd8013 because of some problems it
has!  What's the deal?  Should I believe the howtos or the files that
came on my system?  Is there even support of the HP27247A??

Doug

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From: microgr@MCS.COM (Peter Bovey)
Subject: Re: Merry XMAS and thanks
Date: 20 Dec 1993 16:46:54 -0600

To: trucken@deci.cs.umn.edu (Dave Truckenmiller)
Subject: Re: Merry XMAS and thanks


I'm sorry that I have to address this to you, but my mailer is flipping
out and I can only do a direct reply to a message. If you can't (or
don't have the time) reply to these questions could you please forward
these questions to the proper Linux newsgoup. I would REALLY appreciate
it.

Could someone please answer a few questions for me (I have been FAQed to
death and am now going blind):

I FTP'd the 99.14 kernel and got 99% of it to compile ok. I can't get
the ethernet card support to compile as I get about 20
"DEFAULT_DMA,IRQ,PORT" undefined messages in several of the .o files. I
can't seem to figure out where I am supposed to be defining these
things. If I do a make config without ethernet support it compiles fine.

Second, the PAS16 sound drivers in the new kernel seem to have a bug
that the 99.13 kernel did not. When playing a sound with splay or vplay
(or anything else) the sound will repeat briefly. In other words, a 10
second sound file would ?look? like this: 12345678901  <-- 11 secs. of
sound with the beginning stuck on the end. I have tried several
different IRQ/DMA combos to no avail.

Third, just a note: I applied the Adaptec 1542C BIOS patch to unlock the
BIOS and it works great. Thanks to whoever put that one together.

Fourth, the reason I am going blind is because I can't seem to find
where I set the font/size for Xterm. The Yggdrasil release seems to be
missing many of the man pages and I can't find anything in the FAQs.
Could someone please tell me where to look?

Geez, while we are at it, I have a problem with the new PAS16 SCSI
drivers as well. They complain about the IRQ being the sam as the one
used by the PAS16 audio driver. Ummm, I thought that they always use
the same IRQ??

I would appreciate any help anyone could give. Although I am new to
Linux I have been reading everything I can find not to bug those of you
who are nice enough answer posts.

                                        Thanks,
                                        Jon Ort

---
 ~ QMPro 1.51 ~ The ultimate smart weapon would be too smart to explode.
          

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From: zmbenhal@netcom.com (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim)
Subject: Re: ncurses not complete>??
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 22:33:52 GMT

In article <2f3vv8$4h1@zikzak.apana.org.au>,
Thomas Haywood <tommy@zikzak.apana.org.au> wrote:
>trl@clark.net (Paul Arbogast) writes:
>>I have been playing with ncurses, trying to figure it all out..  and i 
>>have, but I am wondering if I have found bugs...
>
>I have found one also.
>
>If you turn echo off using noecho(); The nothing gets echoed using
>getch() but if you use getstr() then all your input is echoed.

Ahggg... I fix that asap.

>Another bug is if you have displayed on window and declare a new window and
>call wrefresh(new_win); then the screen isn't blanked before it displays the
>new window and half of the previous shown window is still there.
>Also clearok(TRUE, win) doesn't work either you have to use touchwin on both
>stdscr and curscr.

Could you write a small program that illustrates the problem and send it to me.

>Anyone else had these probs with ncurses for linux.
>I wish I had the source so I could fix them.

Sources are available from netcom.com:pub/zmbenhal/ncurses

>-- 
>Welcome to my new mail box...........
>Tommy Haywood: tommy@zikzak.apana.org.au
>2nd Year BCSE, Monash Uni/Clayton, Vic, Aus
>Home: Wantirna Sth, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


-- 
---
Zeyd M. Ben-Halim       zmbenhal@netcom.com
10479 1/4 Santa Monica Blvd, LA, CA, 90025 (310) 470-0281

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From: jok@snakemail.hut.fi (Jouni A Kosonen)
Subject: Re: Caching and extra drives (was: IDE CACHE BOARD with Linux??)
Date: 20 Dec 93 23:04:02 GMT

In article <1993Dec20.063930.31915@pe1chl.ampr.org> rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) writes:
   I think in Linux you're always better off when you move the cache RAM
   from the controller to the main board.  The main processor can make more
   efficient use of it...

Yea, it would. However, I happen to have 12 1MB SIMMs, only two available
banks on the motherboard and no money, so the alternatives are to
use 8Mb main memory + 4Mb cache or to use 8Mb main and no cache.
Not really a choice, right?

Jouni Kosonen
jok@beta.hut.fi


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From: bob@rbm01.ci.net (Bob Martin)
Subject: Re: kmem-ps patches from 0.99.14 to 0.99.14f?
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 22:44:07 GMT

Mike Horwath (root@jacobs.mn.org) wrote:
: Mail Administrator (TaRDiS@supraNY.UUCP) wrote:
: : Can anyone tell me where I can find the patches for kmem-ps to make the
: : 0.99.14
: : version work on kernel 0.99.14f?  Thanks much for any assistance you can
: : provide.

: : Robert Levin  ! Email: TaRDiS@MBS.Telesys.UTexas.EDU 

: How odd, since kmem based ps from pl14 works just fine with 14f also here.

: Are you having a problem or just assuming you need a new kmem based ps
: to keep up to date?

all I had to do was a ps -U to update the psdatabase.
-- 

bob martin   
bob@rbm01.ci.net 

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From: gopalan@physik.uni-kl.de (Aschwin Gopalan [Student])
Subject: Re: Merry XMAS and thanks
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 00:30:27 GMT

Jim Dodd (jimd@netcom.com) wrote:
: I'm tired of all the complaints, and figured others are too. 

: So,  I thought I would wish all of you a Merry XMAS, and to extend my
: thanks to all the work that has been done over the last year by all
: the developers.

: Linux isn't perfect, but I have seen commercial products that weren't as 
: good. So I'm over joyed to have it. And, you have my support and best
: wishes in the upcoming year. 

: Please, keep up the good work and enjoy the holiday season.


: -- 
: Jim Dodd     email: jimd@netcom.com

I would like to thank everybody out there who does a good job supporting
Linux. Linux is actually the best operating system to fit my needs I could
ever find. It works great for over a year now on my machine and I don't want 
to see any Windoze on it again! Please go on like this, 
Thanks a lot, and Merry Christmas to all of you!

aki


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Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.windows.x.motif,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sources.d
From: belou@altern.com (belou)
Subject: Re: Merry $*!@ing Christmas!
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 17:39:07 GMT



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From: fsho@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Fu-Shen Ho)
Subject: Any document for the net-code in the kernel ??
Date: 21 Dec 1993 02:10:16 GMT


        Is there any document for the networking codes in the kernel ?
        I mean the files under drivers/net/ & net/ or net/inet/...
        
        In KHG-0.5,the author said this section hadn't been written yet.

        So, Is anybody working on it ?

        Please tell me. Thank you very much.

        

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From: root@jacobs.mn.org (Mike Horwath)
Subject: Re: AMI FastDisk comments, please.
Date: 21 Dec 1993 01:00:58 GMT

Danny D! (ddambros@nyx10.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: I've got an AMI FastDisk VLB caching controller (16Meg), and I would like
: to know if anyone has gotten one to work w/ Linux.  The manual says that
: it is Adaptec 154x compatable via a dipswitch.  If I do so, would that
: preclude the cache, as the 154x series is cachless?  Has anyone used an
: AMI board with Linux successfully?  Any comments appreciated.

This should work and even include your cache.  Just because it becomes
compat doesn't mean you lose the other good features.

: Velcro!
: ddambros@nyx10.cs.du.edu

--
Mike Horwath    IRC: Drechsau   BBS: Drechsau   LIFE: lover
root@jacobs.mn.org  drechsau@jacobs.mn.org
Jacob's Ladder  612-588-0201  UUCP, UseNet, Linux files, BBS

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Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix,comp.windows.x.motif,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sources.d
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Merry $*!@ing Christmas!
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 02:49:49 GMT


I've purposely munged the Followups-To: line.  It will not work.
Follow up to the appropriate groups.

That being said...

"marca" == Marc Andreessen <marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu> writes:

marca> with standard system-level software, particularly to do
marca> scientific computing -- is virtually entirely satisfied with
marca> our choice of GUI *and* with our software (as, btw, is the

Have you asked anyone?  What's this based on?

You see, I've worked in lots of places where we (the workers) were
told what to use, and our boses told the vendors we were happy.
(Having to use WordPerfect because that's what NIH told us to comes to
mind.)

Point being, here at NAS, we use what we want.  Lots of us use
twm/tvtwm.  Some use 4dwm.  There's a couple of poor souls that use
gwm.

marca> National Science Foundation itself; c.f. the head of NSF's

That doesn't mean it's right.  Just means someone on high likes you.

marca> taxpayer: 100,000 satisfied target users served, and climbing.

Again, I haven't seen a poll on this. 

marca> just because we may be funded with public money.  The DMV,
marca> though funded with public money, is not obligated to grant you
marca> a driver's license; a police officer, though funded with public
marca> money, is not obligated to let you off the hook when you're
marca> going 95 MPH; the Supreme Court, though funded with public
marca> money, is not obligated to find in your favor in a given case.

No, but software created with public funds belongs to the public.
It's not a matter of opinion.  It doesn't mean you have to write the
code the public wants.  But it means you have to give out source (or
sell it at reasonable cost, see NASA's COSMIC program).

You're right that this is a silly discussion.  You don't like Mosaic?
Fine, go write your own web client.  Or, as the Big Boys used to say,
"Go start YOUR own band!"

--
J. Eric Townsend jet@nas.nasa.gov 415.604.4311| personal email goes to: 
CM-5 Administrator, Parallel Systems Support  |   jet@well.sf.ca.us
NASA Ames Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation    |---------------------------
PGP2.2 public key available upon request or finger jet@simeon.nas.nasa.gov

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From: MATT_J@HOLONET.NET
Subject: hello
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 04:05:06 GMT

M>--
M>Marc Andreessen
M>Software Development Group
M>National Center for Supercomputing Applications
M>marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (MIME welcomed here)
M>

Hello Marc:

I've been reading your messages on comp.os.linux.development and 
noticed your taglines.  What type of software do you develop?  I
currently work in Motif on RS/6000s.  I have used the NCSA telnet
package before and was wondering if you could point me in the right
direction.  Can you give me some info about the NCSA?  I'm assuming 
that it is affiliated with a university and I am searching for a 
grad school that is 'well connected' on the internet.  Would you have
the address for your admissions office where I could write for a 
catalog?  

   Thank you!!

    -Matt Johnson

   Motif/X11R5/C programmer


     matt_j@holonet.net
---
 ~ QMPro 1.02 93-0934 ~ "5 Meg Hard Disk - Only $600.00" - Byte 07/82

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From: jimj@miller.cs.uwm.edu (James Jegers)
Subject: BIOS disk driver
Date: 21 Dec 1993 05:08:29 GMT


  I'm trying to run ***BSD on a 386 embedded DOS system.
  This system will not have any hard drives or floppy drives, all
  that it will have is 3 eproms which are solid state disk emulators.
  I need this to be a standalone system, so booting from the ethernet
  is not an option.

  Does anyone have/seen a solid state disk driver for any operating
  system(sources would be really helpful).

  I assume the onboard DOS bios will emulator a real disk in the eproms.
  I know that the ***BSD kernels boot by using the BIOS, but has anyone
  ever written a UNIX block driver to use the BIOS calls for people
  who don't have standard controllers.  This would be a real help
  for people with odd SCSI cards, to let them use their drives.
  Sure performance would suck, but for my use performance plays no role.

        Please E-Mail responses or any help to
        jimj@miller.cs.uwm.edu

-- 
     _____________________________________________________________
    /\               University of Wisconsin -- Milwaukee         \
    \_|   jimj@miller.cs.uwm.edu          James Jegers             |
      |   jimj@cs.uwm.edu                                          |

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