Subject: Linux-Development Digest #318
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Date:     Mon, 20 Dec 93 13:13:09 EST

Linux-Development Digest #318, Volume #1         Mon, 20 Dec 93 13:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: Joystick device for Linux (Thomas Aaron Insel)
  Caching and extra drives (was: IDE CACHE BOARD with Linux??) (Jouni A Kosonen)
  Re: kmem-ps patches from 0.99.14 to 0.99.14f? (Mike Horwath)
  Re: ISDN for Linux ??? (John R. Campbell)
  Re: New set of serial patches --- big bugfix!! (Rob Janssen)
  Re: Caching and extra drives (was: IDE CACHE BOARD with Linux??) (Rob Janssen)
  Has anyone managed to compile libc-4.4.4?? (Allan Clearwaters)
  AMI FastDisk comments, please. (Danny D!)
  Re: ncurses not complete>?? (Thomas Haywood)
  Re: Symbolic linking across a network... (Norbert Kuemin)
  Possible Security hole in Slackware 1.1.0. (Andy Bolton)
  Re: Has anyone managed to compile libc-4.4.4?? (H.J. Lu)
  kmem-ps patches from 0.99.14 to 0.99.14f? (Mail Administrator)
  Merry XMAS and thanks (Jim Dodd)
  [Q] any port of audio server for linux (Caillaud Bertrand)
  Re: Symbolic linking across a network... (Rui-Tao Dong ~{6-HpLN~})
  Re: [Q] any port of audio server for linux (Evmorfopoulos Dimitris)

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From: tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel)
Subject: Re: Joystick device for Linux
Date: 20 Dec 1993 00:52:50 GMT
Reply-To: tinsel@uiuc.edu

dennisf@denix.elk.miles.com (Dennis Flaherty) writes:

> This is probably more of an XFree86 question.  If the standard
> Linux kernel supported joysticks, then XFree86 could use one as
> an input device.

Probably not.  The mouse drivers don't provide a standardized output,
they just make it possible to read the mouse as a device.  XFree has
to interpret each kind of mouse seperately.

You could write some sort of interface program than read joystick
input, translated it into mouse-speak, and spit it out through a named
pipe.  A similar method was once used with PS/2 mice and XFree.

Tom
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From: jok@snakemail.hut.fi (Jouni A Kosonen)
Subject: Caching and extra drives (was: IDE CACHE BOARD with Linux??)
Date: 20 Dec 93 01:10:40 GMT


I have a caching IDE controller, CH-101G, in my machine and it's caching quite
allright. Having a 80186 w/ its own operating system and 4M of RAM it tends to
take the edge off swapping...
However, there's more to the card than this. Under DOS, it supports
up to 4 hard disks, using a device driver for the extra two. There is
8k of on-board ROM, but this isn't used after the system is up.

I've dissected the DOS driver and tried to add this support in the Linux 
kernel, but there seem to be a few gotchas:
- the card uses non-standard commands to access the extra drives,
  although the ports used are the same as the standard ones
- although the number of HDs can be defined in drivers/block/hd.c, 
  quit a few of the functions and definitions there place an implicit 
  upper bound of two disks
- not all functions appear to be supported in the DOS driver
- the damned card has to be kick-started upon bootup and the init-
  sequence of the DOS driver is nothing short of cryptic

I'm still working on the last one, but I can now mount the partitions
of the extra drive (I only have 3 HDs installed), read from them
and write in them. Occasionally, I get an 'unexpected HD interrupt',
so there's still work to be done.

What I'd like to know:
- has anyone done this already?
- is there an approved way to do this without the changes getting
  clobbered when the next kernel patches are run? After all, I
  believe I will have to modify existing functions and definitions
  in at least the hd.c, as this is an IRQ 14 service. Don't I?
- Does anyone know anything about this card? I've been unable to find
  any reference to the manufacturer within the documentation. Even
  the name of the writer of the DOS driver has been wiped from the
  driver...

Thanks,

Jouni Kosonen
jok@beta.hut.fi

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From: root@jacobs.mn.org (Mike Horwath)
Subject: Re: kmem-ps patches from 0.99.14 to 0.99.14f?
Date: 19 Dec 1993 19:16:49 GMT

Mail Administrator (TaRDiS@supraNY.UUCP) wrote:
: Can anyone tell me where I can find the patches for kmem-ps to make the 0.99.14
: version work on kernel 0.99.14f?  Thanks much for any assistance you can
: provide.

: Robert Levin  ! Email: TaRDiS@MBS.Telesys.UTexas.EDU 

How odd, since kmem based ps from pl14 works just fine with 14f also here.

Are you having a problem or just assuming you need a new kmem based ps
to keep up to date?

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From: soup@penrij.UUCP (John R. Campbell)
Subject: Re: ISDN for Linux ???
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 13:11:37 GMT

peterd@pjd.dev.cdx.mot.com (Peter Desnoyers) writes:

[deleted]

>Of course, if the phone company ever discovered that you were using a
>protocol implementation that hadn't gone through proper homologation
>testing to talk to their precious switches they'd probably get upset,
>but if you don't have any bugs they'll never know...

They would probably discover this BECAUSE you would have few bugs  :-)
(i.e. Why hasn't that customer's system crashed yet?)

-- 
 John R. Campbell                                    soup%penrij@kd3bj.ampr.org

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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: New set of serial patches --- big bugfix!!
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 06:36:30 GMT

In <2evnbf$364@jacobs.jacobs.mn.org> root@jacobs.mn.org (Mike Horwath) writes:

>Things are better, but there is one new big bug (I know, you don't want
>to hear that).

>When you dialout on the line (using getty_ps, which operates correctly),
>when the dialing program is done (be it uucp or kermit or whatever),
>RTS and DTR go down, like they should, then DTR comes up, but RTS never
>does.

>This means that the modem can not answer the phone and the like.

I have installed the 17dec version of the patches and it works OK over
here...

Rob
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From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen)
Subject: Re: Caching and extra drives (was: IDE CACHE BOARD with Linux??)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 06:39:30 GMT

In <JOK.93Dec20031040@beta.hut.fi> jok@snakemail.hut.fi (Jouni A Kosonen) writes:


>I have a caching IDE controller, CH-101G, in my machine and it's caching quite
>allright. Having a 80186 w/ its own operating system and 4M of RAM it tends to
>take the edge off swapping...

I think in Linux you're always better off when you move the cache RAM
from the controller to the main board.  The main processor can make more
efficient use of it...

Rob
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From: allan@europa.mct.uucp (Allan Clearwaters)
Subject: Has anyone managed to compile libc-4.4.4??
Date: 20 Dec 93 09:47:34 GMT

Since I recently installed gcc-2.5.7 on my system, I thought it might be nice
to recompile ligc-4.4.4 with the new compiler so I grabbed the source from
tsx-11.  I have been unable to build libc.so.4.4.4 from this source.

First of all, the prototypes for the libm build do no match those defined
in the the include-4.4.4 distribution.  The problems can be fixed but are 
annoying.

The real problems are in the build of libc itself.  They seem to center
on a group of data definitions which are in jump/libc/jump.vars.vt.  These
symbols appear in both the jump.vars and jump.ignore files.  If I try
the compile straight out of the box, mkimage complains that that there is
no data file for vt$filebuf.  If I remove the definition of vt$filebuf 
from jump.vars, I get an 'Undefined virtual table reference' for filebuf.

This would seem to be a catch-22 situation - does anyone have any insight
into this problem??

Many Thanks,
Al
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From: ddambros@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Danny D!)
Subject: AMI FastDisk comments, please.
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 10:25:29 GMT

                                                                                
                                                                                
I've got an AMI FastDisk VLB caching controller (16Meg), and I would like       
to know if anyone has gotten one to work w/ Linux.  The manual says that        
it is Adaptec 154x compatable via a dipswitch.  If I do so, would that          
preclude the cache, as the 154x series is cachless?  Has anyone used an         
AMI board with Linux successfully?  Any comments appreciated.                   
                                                                                
                                                                                
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From: tommy@zikzak.apana.org.au (Thomas Haywood)
Subject: Re: ncurses not complete>??
Date: 20 Dec 1993 21:49:12 +1100

trl@clark.net (Paul Arbogast) writes:
>I have been playing with ncurses, trying to figure it all out..  and i 
>have, but I am wondering if I have found bugs...

I have found one also.

If you turn echo off using noecho(); The nothing gets echoed using
getch() but if you use getstr() then all your input is echoed.

Another bug is if you have displayed on window and declare a new window and
call wrefresh(new_win); then the screen isn't blanked before it displays the
new window and half of the previous shown window is still there.
Also clearok(TRUE, win) doesn't work either you have to use touchwin on both
stdscr and curscr.

Anyone else had these probs with ncurses for linux.
I wish I had the source so I could fix them.

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From: kuemin@srapc101.alcatel.ch (Norbert Kuemin)
Subject: Re: Symbolic linking across a network...
Reply-To: norbert.kuemin@alcatel.ch
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 11:46:20 GMT

Edward Baichtal (edwardb@netcom.com) wrote:

: Can you symbolically link files across a network with Linux?  I am 
: asking, only because I have found not a lot of network facilities matured 
: in Linux yet.
: -- 
: Edward Baichtal
: edwardb@netcom.com
If you bind a tree from another host to yours by using "nfs", there should
be no problem to make a tree fromyour disk to the "new" tree

Norbert Kuemin
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
From: andy_bolton.sbd-e@rx.xerox.com (Andy Bolton)
Subject: Possible Security hole in Slackware 1.1.0.
Reply-To: andy_bolton.sbd-e@rx.xerox.com
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 11:02:33 GMT

Can anyone tell me the correct permissions/ownerships for the following files
in a vanilla slackware setup.

/etc/passwd
/etc/group

I think I may have found a *NASTY* hole in slackware, but the system I have
access to is not standard.....

Cheers,

Andy.

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From: hjl@nynexst.com (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: Has anyone managed to compile libc-4.4.4??
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 12:05:34 GMT

Allan Clearwaters (allan@europa.mct.uucp) wrote:
: Since I recently installed gcc-2.5.7 on my system, I thought it might be nice
: to recompile ligc-4.4.4 with the new compiler so I grabbed the source from
: tsx-11.  I have been unable to build libc.so.4.4.4 from this source.

Don't bother with libc 4.4.4. I will release libc 4.5.8 and libg++
2.5.xl RSN.

H.J.

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From: TaRDiS@supraNY.UUCP (Mail Administrator)
Subject: kmem-ps patches from 0.99.14 to 0.99.14f?
Date: 20 Dec 1993 13:14:47 GMT

Thanks for assistance provided!  My kmem-ps *does* work fine with 14f; a
fact I discovered after finding out that the "ln" command distributed with
slackware 1.1.1 appears to have a peculiar bug (at least under certain
circumstances, the -f option doesn't work?)  Anyway, thanx again and
apologies for the misleading format of my articles, which need a little
work....u

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From: jimd@netcom.com (Jim Dodd)
Subject: Merry XMAS and thanks
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 15:09:35 GMT

I'm tired of all the complaints, and figured others are too. 

So,  I thought I would wish all of you a Merry XMAS, and to extend my
thanks to all the work that has been done over the last year by all
the developers.

Linux isn't perfect, but I have seen commercial products that weren't as 
good. So I'm over joyed to have it. And, you have my support and best
wishes in the upcoming year. 

Please, keep up the good work and enjoy the holiday season.


-- 
Jim Dodd     email: jimd@netcom.com

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From: caillaud@icp.grenet.fr (Caillaud Bertrand)
Subject: [Q] any port of audio server for linux
Date: 20 Dec 1993 15:29:58 GMT

I would lik to know if there is a port of an audio server for linux 
Net audio (from ncd) or Audio File (from Dec).
 Thanks.


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From: rdong@playmate.mat.jhu.edu (Rui-Tao Dong ~{6-HpLN~})
Subject: Re: Symbolic linking across a network...
Date: 20 Dec 93 16:42:20 GMT


>>>>> On Wed, 15 Dec 1993 17:24:49 GMT, edwardb@netcom.com (Edward Baichtal) said:


 edwardb> Can you symbolically link files across a network with Linux?  I
 edwardb> am asking, only because I have found not a lot of network
 edwardb> facilities matured in Linux yet.

        Not really, but close. If you do

unix> ln -s /myself@another.machine:/home/me/RemoteFile LocalFile

and if you are in an emacs with ange-ftp installed (You need to overload an
emacs function in your .emacs, email me if you are interested), you can do
"^X^F LocalFile" to read RemoteFile. You can even do this over modem if you
use termftp.  As a matter of fact, this is not Linux specific, but works
under all unix (assuming a fully functional emacs.)

Regards,

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    rdong@playmate.mat.jhu.edu              The Johns Hopkins University
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From: devmorfo@mtu.edu (Evmorfopoulos Dimitris)
Subject: Re: [Q] any port of audio server for linux
Date: 20 Dec 1993 17:23:06 GMT

In article <2f4gdmINNqn@cicg-communication.grenet.fr>, caillaud@icp.grenet.fr (Caillaud Bertrand) writes:
> I would lik to know if there is a port of an audio server for linux 
> Net audio (from ncd) or Audio File (from Dec).
>  Thanks.
> 
> 
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        There is some sort of audio server out there, called rplay. I dont
remember the ftp site where you can find it  (I think it is sounds.sdsu.edu),
but you can look for it with archie.

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