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Date:     Sat, 7 May 94 18:16:07 EDT
Subject:  Linux-Admin Digest #623

Linux-Admin Digest #623, Volume #1                Sat, 7 May 94 18:16:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big (Paul Budnik)
  Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big (Dan Newcombe)
  Re: Linux on Emulatorboard (Wiggle It!)
  Kernel 1.1.12 compile problems (Mark Fernyhough)
  Re: Kernel 1.1.12 compile problems (Hong-Yung Lee)
  *NIX Version Compatibility (James Wegman)
  Using Linux as an X terminal with DECterm (John Lellis)
  Re: How can one capture console message during boot? (Rudolf Hornig)
  Re: cross compiling on dec alpha (Kai Petzke)
  Re: Running YP (?NIS) on Slackware (Mr Ivan Alastair Beveridge)
  Re: DX4/100 vs. pentium _VLB_ benchmark results? (Ralph Doncaster)
  Re: DX4/100 vs. pentium _VLB_ benchmark results? (James LewisMoss)
  Can't write to linux dos partition mounted using nfs (Ed Beers)
  Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
  Re: Kernel 1.1.12 compile problems (Faarungsang)
  Re: xdm: strange xterm-behaviour. Why?! Please help... (Steven Fought)
  Re: SLIP vs. PPP [Q] (Gregory Ade)
  Re: Can't write to linux dos partition mounted using nfs (Veikko Siivola)

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From: paul@mtnmath.mtnmath.com (Paul Budnik)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big
Date: 7 May 1994 09:01:02 -0700

Grantma (Matthew_Grant@equinox.gen.nz) wrote:

: Have some people who work for Novell or USL written ANY of the kernel code
: for Linux in their spare time?  Is any of this a major part of the kernel?
: If so how much?  If this has happened Novell could claim that the work of
: their employees in their spare time has used information/ideas from work or
: that it owns the copyright on any of their employee's work if it related to
: their business. [...]

This is nonsense. Suppose you did some programming in your spare time
for another company. Would this mean your full time employer owned the
copyright to this code? There are terms in most employee contracts that
make the employer the owner of any patentable ideas related to ones work.
There is a big difference however between patent and copyright protection.
You are perfectly free to use the skills and ideas you acquire at work for
any other employer. It is only propietarty information that you cannot use
elsewhere. If you publicly release proprietary information you can be sued by
your employer but once the cat is out of the bag the information is no longer
proprietary. Those that obtained the information in a legal way cannot be
sued or legally prevented from using it.

It is certainly possible that someone might obtain a patent on some
techniques used in the Linux kernel and force the code to be removed or
royalties to be paid. That is one of the reasons it is so important to fight
against software patents. However this danger applys equally to any patent
anyone might obtain regardless of who put the offending code in the kernel.
Even Linus can be prevented from using his own code! :-( 

Paul Budnik

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From: newcombe@aa.csc.peachnet.edu (Dan Newcombe)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 16:37:39 UNDEFINED

In article <2q8tms$ca2@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> jgrape@coos.dartmouth.edu (Johan A. Grape) writes:
>Lin*s is actually a secret employee of Nov*ll after he was approached
>early in his university career by Nov*ll and recruited under the covert
>operation "Slick Move".

Little known fact:

        He also was once involved in buying a land development named Whitewater in 
Arkansas, and made $100,000 from a $1000 investment in Reindeer.

 :)

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From: barron@DEATHSTAR.RESNET.UPENN.EDU (Wiggle It!)
Subject: Re: Linux on Emulatorboard
Date: 4 May 1994 22:37:01 GMT

what about linux running on one of those Dos compatible Mac Quadra 610s 
(not the powermacs, but the ones with a i486sx25 onboard)


I have access to one.....anyone else tried it?


Barron


Sascha Bohnenkamp 
(b19f@zfn.uni-bremen.de) wrote: : Hello,
: I have done something which might interest some people.
: I am running Linux Slackware 0.99plv14 on my GoldenGate 486SLC Board inside a Amiga !!
: It is realy pretty running !!!!!!!


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From: fernym@pc64.maths.bris.ac.uk (Mark Fernyhough)
Subject: Kernel 1.1.12 compile problems
Reply-To: Mark.Fernyhough@bristol.ac.uk
Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 16:57:01 GMT

I can't seem to be able to compile 1.1.12, i get the error

net/net.o: Undefined symbol _rarp_ioctl referenced from text segment
fs/filesystems.a(proc.o): Undefined symbol _rarp_get_info referenced from text segment
make: *** [tools/zSystem] Error 1

I have rechecked that i had no *.rej anywhere and even went to the extreme
of restarting from the orginal source v1.1.0 and applying patchs 1-12 again.

I am using gcc-2.5.8 and libc-4.5.26....

Has anyone else had this problem or know of any fixes?

Thanks in advance

Mark Fernyhough

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From: mr814305@g814305.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw (Hong-Yung Lee)
Subject: Re: Kernel 1.1.12 compile problems
Date: 7 May 1994 17:14:24 GMT
Reply-To: mr814305@cs.nthu.edu.tw

Mark Fernyhough (fernym@pc64.maths.bris.ac.uk) wrote:
: I can't seem to be able to compile 1.1.12, i get the error

: net/net.o: Undefined symbol _rarp_ioctl referenced from text segment
: fs/filesystems.a(proc.o): Undefined symbol _rarp_get_info referenced from text segment
: make: *** [tools/zSystem] Error 1

: I have rechecked that i had no *.rej anywhere and even went to the extreme
: of restarting from the orginal source v1.1.0 and applying patchs 1-12 again.

: I am using gcc-2.5.8 and libc-4.5.26....

: Has anyone else had this problem or know of any fixes?

: Thanks in advance

: Mark Fernyhough

Please add the following lines before "ifdef CONFIG_INET" 
into linux/net/inet/Makefile.

ifdef CONFIG_INET_RARP

OBJS    := $(OBJS) rarp.o

endif


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From: James Wegman <jameswegman@delphi.com>
Subject: *NIX Version Compatibility
Date: Sat, 7 May 94 13:19:13 -0500

I was just wondering in which direction Linux is heading in terms of *NIX
version compatibility.  Is there any definite movement toward SV or BSD?
In trying to administer my system, referring to various texts on *NIX system
administration, I find it very difficult to settle on any single standard
because of the hodgepodge of Linux tools and administration utilities with
Linux is supplied. I do see a general trend toward using an /sbin directory
(a SV convention) and a growing emergence of SV init systems, so I am assumin
that the trend is in the SV direction. If anyone has any insights into this
matter, your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
 
Jim Wegman

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From: lellis@igate.com (John Lellis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Using Linux as an X terminal with DECterm
Date: 7 May 1994 17:40:15 GMT

I wonder if anyone has any experience with using Linux as an X terminal with
DECwindows or OSF/Motif on a VAX/VMS system?

I am trying to run a DECterm session on a VAX running VMS 5.5-2 with the
display directed at my Linux box running XFree86 (version 2.0).

Regular telnet sessions to the VAX work just fine - keyboard mapping is
nearly perfect (except for the placement of the - and + keys on the keypad,
a hardware limitation) and the console screen drivers seem to emulate a VT100
perfectly in text mode.

Unfortunately, some of the programs I run on the VAX require REGIS graphics,
so I tried to start a DECterm session and direct the display to the Linux box.

VT340 emulation in the X window seems fine - graphics come out O.K. - but
the keyboard mapping which was so good under telnet has now gone south.
Any resemblence to an LK201 keyboard is strictly accidental.  This makes it
quite painful to do anything with an editor while in the session.

Does anyone know how to get back the proper keyboard mapping?  I've read the
man pages for termcap and Xtermcap as well as the XFree86 FAQ, but the
secret either isn't there or else I missed it.  The DECwindows documentation
shows how to change the display emulation from VT340 to other types, but
there doesn't seem to be any way to select a different keyboard.

If you know how to get proper LK2xx keymapping while running XFree86 on your
Linux box, please let me know.  If there is more than one solution, I will
post a summary of them later on.

Many thanks in advance to all who may try to help!

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From: rudi@evt.bme.hu (Rudolf Hornig)
Subject: Re: How can one capture console message during boot?
Date: 7 May 1994 17:38:01 GMT

In article <2prrgd$pl8@news.acns.nwu.edu>, dennis@cauchy.math.nwu.edu (Dennis Director) says:
>
>
>Thats pretty much it, messages issued to console go
>by too fast for me to study what worked and what
>didn't during bootup. Can I pause it, redirect it
>to a file?
>

Try to use the DMESG command.

Hope it helps

Rudi                    rudi@evt.bme.hu

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From: wpp@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Kai Petzke)
Subject: Re: cross compiling on dec alpha
Date: 7 May 94 18:04:51 GMT

cs370_4@wsi.eecs.uic.edu (Dennis J. Robinson) writes:

>I have access to a 127mips dec alpha.  Does anyone know how I could cross
>compile my linux kernel, and source code on this machine?


In general, you can build a cross compiler from the gcc source code.
Read the INSTALL file of that package carefully.  Unfortunately, it
says, that there can be problems with cross compilers between a 64
bit machine (as the ALPHA is) and a 32 bit machine (like the Intel).


Kai
-- 
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Technical University of Berlin  |
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From: zceed04@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Ivan Alastair Beveridge)
Subject: Re: Running YP (?NIS) on Slackware
Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 18:51:06 GMT

In article <297e9361@p27.f210.n2437.z2.fidonet.org> Eberhard_Moenkeberg@p27.rollo.central.de (Eberhard Moenkeberg) writes:
>on 26.04.94 Mr Ivan Alastair Beveridge wrote to All in
>MIAB> Version 1.2.0 of Slackware contains some bit of YP in it.
>Not "some bit" - all you need as an yp client. It is the package which got
>developed by "swen" at ftp.uni-paderborn.de.

Yeah - cheers. A lack of man pages made me somewhat curious (as did a lack of
network to try it out on :^).

>MIAB>  I tried to start up the server, but it said something like "unable to
>MIAB> bind". I am just trying this out, so do not know much about it. Do I
>MIAB> need any other package to make this work fully?
>You need an YP server. :-)
>Slackware's client part works out-of-the-box (after adding the "+:0..."
>lines to /etc/passwd and /etc/group) if you use ypserv-0.5.tar.gz
>with it.

I got the ypserver down a few days ago, and made & located it as per the readme
file. I ran the rpc.portmap daemon, and the ypserver:
ypserv /var/yp/dreamtime
and then tried a ypcat passwd. This gave me an error something like "couldn't
bind to passwd.byname". (I have run a make in the /var/yp .. dir).

I did not try adding what you have just mentioned to the passwd and group
files - could you enlighten me as to what exactly I need to put, as I do not
have any more info (dox seem a bit scarce in the ypserv package).

Cheers

Ivan
--
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PGP key available

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From: ralph@dci.rubicon.org (Ralph Doncaster)
Subject: Re: DX4/100 vs. pentium _VLB_ benchmark results?
Date: Fri, 6 May 1994 05:59:47 GMT

mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) writes:

>ronald@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ronald Hindmarsh) writes:

>>I dont want to get a PCI board because my SIMMS will not fit in there :-(.
>>So the alternative is either
>>a) 486/DX100 VLB   or
>>I wonder if my 80ns SIMMS would be the bottleneck in a >33Mhz system.

>A DX4/100 is still accessing memory as a 25 Mhz 486.
>I am still looking for a DX2/100, which would access memory as a 50 Mhz 486...

The Intel DX4 (the proper name for it, since 486 is no-where in the name)
is *not* a clock quadrupled CPU.
(yes, Intel picked a confusing name, but supposedly one that no CPU clone
manufacturer could use)
The DX4 (100mzh version) is a 3.3v processor which can run externally at 33Mhz,
(clock tripled) or at 50Mhz (clock doubled).
1-800-525-3019 is Intel's faxback line for those in North America.

-Ralph

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From: moss@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu (James LewisMoss)
Subject: Re: DX4/100 vs. pentium _VLB_ benchmark results?
Date: 4 May 1994 13:04:45 -0400

mark@taylor.wyvern.com (Mark A. Davis) writes:

>ronald@cs.tu-berlin.de (Ronald Hindmarsh) writes:

>>I dont want to get a PCI board because my SIMMS will not fit in there :-(.
>>So the alternative is either
>>a) 486/DX100 VLB   or
>>I wonder if my 80ns SIMMS would be the bottleneck in a >33Mhz system.

>A DX4/100 is still accessing memory as a 25 Mhz 486.
>I am still looking for a DX2/100, which would access memory as a 50 Mhz 486...
>-- 

Actually a DX4/100 is accessing memory as a 33MHz 486.  The "4" is a
misnomer.  It's a clock-tripled chip just like IBM put out except it has
a 16k internal cache, and a floating point proceddor on chip.  Gotta
hand it to Intel to misname things again to make it look better.

jim

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From: sreeb@crash.cts.com (Ed Beers)
Subject: Can't write to linux dos partition mounted using nfs
Date: Sat, 7 May 1994 16:26:53 GMT

I am have trouble accessing a linux dos partition using
PC-NFS 5.0b.

I am able to mount it and read from it but when I try to
write to it I have problems.  For example:

C>copy ttt.txt i:
Access denied "i:\ttt.txt"

My fstab contains the following line:
/dev/hda1  /dosc  msdos  umask=000

My exports contains the following line:
/dosc   gates(rw)

"ls -l /" reports the following:
drwxrwxrwx   4 root    root        16384 Dec 31  1969 dosc/ 

I am using slackware 1.2 with a 1.0.8 kernel.

I am able to nfs mount directories on my normal linux filesystem
without any problems so I think things are OK on the PC side.
Anybody have any ideas?

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.misc
From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP)
Subject: Re: Novell is trying to Sell a derivative of Linux for a big
Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin)
Date: Thu, 5 May 1994 16:46:11 GMT

Followup to:  <1994May5.133549.29598@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
By author:    jmk8213@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
In newsgroup: comp.os.linux.admin
> 
> Well, that's how you're explaining it...
> This Novell thing is an operating system; WordPerfect is an application
> that runs on an operating system, like DOS.
> If you're going to write a DOS-based OS, you would need  the DOS source,
> correct? Its the same way with OS/2, SunOS, Linux, AIX and HP-UX, yes?
>
> It sounds to me as if Novell is in the process of plagiarizing Linux,
> and selling it as their own.
> Anybody from Novell out there that can clear this up once and for all???
> 

It has been explained again and again...

Novell most likely are uninterested in muddling with the part of Linux
that work -- the C library and kernel; nor with XFree86 (which is
*not* a part of Linux).  Their product works *on top of* Linux -- a
proprietary window manager, MS-Windows emulator, utilitites,
libraries.  For Novell to "plagiarize" Linux would be totally
counterproductive.

Is this legal?  Yes.

Will Linux applications run on Expose?  Yes.

Will Expose applications run on plain Linux?  Not if they use features
from the Expose libraries.

Is this beneficial for the Linux community?  Yes, because if Novell
has poured money into development of a Linux-based product, they are
not going to let the OS disappear.

        /hpa

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From: supat@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Faarungsang)
Subject: Re: Kernel 1.1.12 compile problems
Date: 7 May 1994 19:23:09 GMT

mr814305@g814305.hung.ab.nthu.edu.tw (Hong-Yung Lee) writes:

>Mark Fernyhough (fernym@pc64.maths.bris.ac.uk) wrote:
>: I can't seem to be able to compile 1.1.12, i get the error

>: net/net.o: Undefined symbol _rarp_ioctl referenced from text segment
>: fs/filesystems.a(proc.o): Undefined symbol _rarp_get_info referenced from text segment
>: make: *** [tools/zSystem] Error 1

>: I have rechecked that i had no *.rej anywhere and even went to the extreme
>: of restarting from the orginal source v1.1.0 and applying patchs 1-12 again.

>: I am using gcc-2.5.8 and libc-4.5.26....

>: Has anyone else had this problem or know of any fixes?

>: Thanks in advance

>: Mark Fernyhough

>Please add the following lines before "ifdef CONFIG_INET" 
>into linux/net/inet/Makefile.

>ifdef CONFIG_INET_RARP

>OBJS    := $(OBJS) rarp.o

>endif


>--
>Mail: mr814305@cs.nthu.edu.tw           


I already do add the lines on Makefile
BUT it still has the same error
AND not produce rarp.o

Do I need to erase all .o  and compile again?

THanks,
supat

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From: xibalba@accord.cco.caltech.edu (Steven Fought)
Crossposted-To: comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: Re: xdm: strange xterm-behaviour. Why?! Please help...
Date: 07 May 1994 20:34:37 GMT

In article <zxmgv07.768315248@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> zxmgv07@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Will) writes:

   In <XIBALBA.94May6032903@accord.cco.caltech.edu> xibalba@accord.cco.caltech.edu (Steven Fought) writes:
   >Try making sure your stty characteristics are set correctly.  Do an
   >stty -a
   >in a startx xterm and the same command in an xdm xterm and notice the
   >differences. 
   An stty produced the very same:

   speed 0 baud; line = 0;
   -cread
   -brkint -imaxbel
   -echoke

   >  I would guess the problem is the 0 speed on the xdm
   >xterm, which is the same problem that causes rlogin to fail to suns.
   Strange, speed is in both cases 0, the working one and the nonworking one.

   >It should be 38400.  You can set it to that with 
   >stty speed 38400
   I tried that - but it makes no difference at all.

The buffering must not be a speed problem.  Did you try an "stty -a"?
There are a lot of possible controls that could effect
terminal-dependant programs.

Steven

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From: tempest@tempest.pr.mcs.net (Gregory Ade)
Subject: Re: SLIP vs. PPP [Q]
Date: 7 May 1994 20:44:05 GMT

And then Maarten Boekhold (Who'd you expect??) (boekhold@morra.et.tudelft.nl) up and said:
: I want to connect our little linux-network at home to the internet 
: through our university. We have 3 comp's on the net, one holding the 
: modem. That one will  have to function as a gateway ofcourse. Can I use 
: SLIP for that? Or PPP (well, pp should work, I know)?
a linux-net? i want one! (all i have is my own 'puter. it's more fun with
more 'puters!)

: If both are usable, which one is best/fastest (modem is 14k4). Or should 
: I buy a new modem (28k8 for example)? We use 'term' once in a while, but 
: it's slow, and simultaniously doing a 'tupload' and doing something 
: else causes a lot of time-outs.
well, i'll tell you right now, i'm using SLIP for my 'net connection
and i run a singl user site (me myself and i).  reading news remotely,
ftp, and other high-traffic stuff like that will really bog down the 
connection, especially if you're trying to do several things over the net
at once.  reading tin, rlogin to another host, ftping and ircing all at the
same time will try your patience, especially if you don't have a whole lotta
RAM to spare. (when big things start getting swapped, it get's icky)

i can't imagine that PPP would be a great deal better/worse (though i've
no experience with it) but the main problem is with the modem as a 
bottleneck.  if you have the money (and you know wherever you're connecting
to has a 28.8k) i'd go with a faster modem.  i just don't know if the
software for linux can handle the max throughput of a 28.8k...
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From: vsiivola@karhu.Helsinki.FI (Veikko Siivola)
Subject: Re: Can't write to linux dos partition mounted using nfs
Date: 7 May 94 23:36:36

In article <sreeb.768328013@crash.cts.com> sreeb@crash.cts.com (Ed Beers) writes:

> I am have trouble accessing a linux dos partition using
> PC-NFS 5.0b.

> I am able to mount it and read from it but when I try to
> write to it I have problems.  For example:

> C>copy ttt.txt i:
> Access denied "i:\ttt.txt"

I had these problems too. What userid did you try, when you mounted
the disk to PC? When I made the NFS mount as root, I could write to
the disk, but as normal user I got this error message Access denied.

After that I traced nfsd and watched, what it was doing while I tried
to write a file as a normal user. When nfsd gets a request and creates
a file, it tries to change owner and group of the file to uid and gid
of the NFS client user. This cannot be done on DOS file system, bacause
there is no uid and gid file attributes on MS-DOS filesystem. Nfsd server
process tells to client that there are problems. When I mounted the disk
as root, I could write files to it. It wasn't necessary for nfsd to change
owner and group of the file, because it was already correct.

> My fstab contains the following line:
> /dev/hda1  /dosc  msdos  umask=000

> My exports contains the following line:
> /dosc gates(rw)

Your exports file seems to be okay.

> "ls -l /" reports the following:
> drwxrwxrwx   4 root    root        16384 Dec 31  1969 dosc/ 

> I am using slackware 1.2 with a 1.0.8 kernel.

> I am able to nfs mount directories on my normal linux filesystem
> without any problems so I think things are OK on the PC side.
> Anybody have any ideas?

On Linux file systems nfsd is able to change file owner and group.
At last I solved the problem. The dos disks should be owned by the same
userid, that must be able to write to it. On my computer two dos file-
systems are owned by userid nobody (uid 65534, gid 65534). They are
mounted by the following commands.

# Mount ms-dos partitions.
/sbin/mount -t msdos -o uid=65534,gid=65534,umask=000 /dev/hda1 /c
/sbin/mount -t msdos -o uid=0,gid=0,umask=002 /dev/hdb1 /d
/sbin/mount -t msdos -o uid=65534,gid=65534,umask=000 /dev/hda5 /e

It is possible to set owner and group of the MS-DOS file systems on
the mount command. On PC I mount DOS file systems as user nobody and
I can write files to it. One DOS file system is owned by root and it
is not writeable to normal users. When I want to install programs to
it, I will mount it as user root.

Veikko Siivola                  University of Helsinki
Veikko.Siivola@Helsinki.fi

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