From wang!elf.wang.com!ucsd.edu!packet-radio-relay Sat Feb 16 16:18:42 1991 remote from tosspot Received: by tosspot (1.63/waf) via UUCP; Sun, 17 Feb 91 18:05:45 EST for lee Received: from somewhere by elf.wang.com id aa25436; Sat, 16 Feb 91 16:18:41 GMT Received: from ucsd.edu by uunet.UU.NET (5.61/1.14) with SMTP id AA25378; Sat, 16 Feb 91 10:45:29 -0500 Received: by ucsd.edu; id AA10041 sendmail 5.64/UCSD-2.1-sun Sat, 16 Feb 91 04:30:09 -0800 for hpbbrd!db0sao!dg4scv Received: by ucsd.edu; id AA10030 sendmail 5.64/UCSD-2.1-sun Sat, 16 Feb 91 04:30:06 -0800 for /usr/lib/sendmail -oc -odb -oQ/var/spool/lqueue -oi -fpacket-radio-relay packet-radio-list Message-Id: <9102161230.AA10030@ucsd.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 91 04:30:04 PST From: Packet-Radio Mailing List and Newsgroup Reply-To: Packet-Radio@ucsd.edu Subject: Packet-Radio Digest V91 #45 To: packet-radio@ucsd.edu Packet-Radio Digest Sat, 16 Feb 91 Volume 91 : Issue 45 Today's Topics: please add me to the mailing list Shareware over packet? Send Replies or notes for publication to: Send subscription requests to: Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Packet-Radio Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/packet-radio". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 15 Feb 91 15:45:19 CST (Fri) From: ssi!tao!gdk@uunet.UU.NET (gdk) Subject: please add me to the mailing list To: packet-radio@wsmr-simtel20.army.mil Attn: Keith Petersen. Hello, Would you kindly add me to the packet-radio mailing list. Thanks. Gary D. Kline ...uunet!ssi!tao!gdk ------------------------------ Date: 15 Feb 91 17:25:58 GMT From: usc!wuarchive!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!know!tegra!vail@ucsd.edu (Johnathan Vail) Subject: Shareware over packet? To: packet-radio@ucsd.edu In article <27B97A19.15785@ics.uci.edu> turner@ics.uci.edu (Clark Turner) writes: In article <1991Feb13.131453.4557@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes: >In article <1991Feb13.061842.15332@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Howard KA9WGN) writes: > >>If the software so much as suggests sending money to the author... then it >>is business. If the software is public domain and has no hint of such a >>suggestion, it might not be business. If it is being distributed for the ...(stuff deleted)... > >The larger problem, I suspect, is that most folks don't understand what >"Public Domain" really means, If they wanted to ensure that their The point made here appears to be a "gray" area. I would clearly see the copyright restriction you append to software as taking the work out of the commercial realm - but who knows what the FCC would do, or a Federal court? AND, I agree that there is confusion about putting works into the public domain...and that your restrictive copyright notice makes an important statement at the very least. There is a general lack of understanding between the difference between shareware (and derivitives like crippleware) and public domain as well as freely distributable "copyleft" software. I don't see "shareware", which solicits funds and depends on its distribution through networks for generating revenue to be anything other than commercial. If it is transfered over amateur radio you are using amateur radio to further their business and commercial interests. The fact that it is done and as far as I know tolerated doesn't make it legal. jv "Honesty without Fear" -- Kelvinator _____ | | Johnathan Vail | n1dxg@tegra.com |Tegra| (508) 663-7435 | N1DXG@448.625-(WorldNet) ----- jv@n1dxg.ampr.org {...sun!sunne ..uunet}!tegra!vail ------------------------------ End of Packet-Radio Digest ******************************