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<JSP> dragon: ok...let's think that i have a p133 with diamond stealth 2VRAM, 4-speed cdrom and 
16 megs of memory: how will QUAKE/MW2 run with it ?
<snail> Pixel Counts - 320x240 = 76,800; 640x480 = 307,200; 786,432; ...
<JSP> comments people...
* snail grins..
<Dnormlguy> i like games
<MeNToS> JSP: 1 FPS
<MeNToS> JPP: give or take 1
<JSP> you're not the only one dnormlguy....
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<JSP> mentos: give or take 1 what ?
<blim> jsp: know any good muds sites?
<MeNToS> JSP: Frame per second
<JSP> blim: eh...MUME ?
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<JSP> mentos: oh...so 1 fps is bad ?
<GrandpaJo> JSP: on my p120 the Quake beta runs about 4.3 fps in 620x380 mode (SVGA)
<blim> Mentos: do you know any good MUDS sites?
<blim> gramps has quakes beta...intresting
<MeNToS> JSP: Yes
<JSP> grandbajo: how do you know that ? have you been playing quake ?
<MeNToS> blim: he I hate muds
<JSP> mentos: ok...
<GrandpaJo> JSP: i'm on id's Quake beta team
<blim> I just want to try...I'm in school
<blim> running UNIX on a acorn : (
<JSP> grandbajo: what ?!?!??
<blim> you heard him jsp!
<GrandpaJo> JSP: you can verify it with iddt (dave taylor) next time he's here
<JSP> grandpajo: tattattatttat
<Algonquin> Dave Taylor huh... When will he be here next???  Anyone?  Oh.
* JSP thinks that gradpajo has the ultimate hobby....
<Choadster> Morning all...
<JSP> grandpajo: some people just get lucky...and i'm NOT one of them...
* Choadster has decided that work really sucks.
* JSP is sad sadsadsadsad
<CousinTim> gramps: yeah you bitch...id wouldn't let me on the quake beta team
* Algonquin Looks out the window, "MORNING!!!! %$#@%"
<blim> hes a quake beta team..worship him!
<blim> anyone know a good MUDS site..
<blim> gramps: how big is the quake beta?
<Choadster> It'll be out soon enough anyway...
<blim> gramps?
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<JSP> blim: i will....
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<JSP> grandpajo: ok...so you know more about quake then anyone here ?
<GrandpaJo> blim: right now its about 43 megs...but its got a lot of unoptimized shit
<Algonquin> Choad: Soon enough as in late '95 or late '96?
<Choadster> Oh yeah...
<blim> gramps: how big is the quake betqa?
<GrandpaJo> blim: and a lot of experimental graphics they probably won't have in the release
<blim> arg shit
<blim> 50 MG!
<blim> MEGS!
<JSP> grandpajo: any release news about beta  ?
<Choadster> Don't you mean late '95 or EARLY '96?
<blim> luckly I have cd-rom
<JSP> lucky me...
-_badcrc_- [WallOP->#dOOm] hahaha these guys are killing me
<Choadster> blim: He just said it's all unoptimized stuff though...
<blim> how 'bouy people withiut cd-rom...will they make a disk?
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<Choadster> hopefully it'll drop down a tad, eh?
<GrandpaJo> blim: it will probably be around 20-25 megs on release
<JSP> grandpajo: so are you going to be mentioned in the BETA-testing team ?
<blim> gramps: will they make a disk version?
<Algonquin> Choad: Not from what these jokers been saying--practically had a myocardial infar... 
 Well, anyways...
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<GrandpaJo> JSP: i'm under agreement on the beta team not to discuss certain things about the 
game
<Choadster> hehehehehe
<JSP> grandpajo: ok...but are you going to be mentioned with the BETA-team ?
<Algonquin> Grandpajo: When you say release, do you mean that late '95 release or the '96 one???
<GrandpaJo> JSP: like what kind of weapons, network play specs, etc
<blim> hay.////gramps///
<GrandpaJo> algonquin: the feb/march release of '95
<blim> ....will the network game be like descent#
<blim> you can join in anytime?
<blim> will it run fast on kali?
<GrandpaJo> blim: yes, you can join in a netgame anytime you want, just like descent..all inside 
the game
<Algonquin> Blim: does your computer get the same writing that mine does?
<blim> ALGONQUIM: huh?
<blim> what do you mean?
<blim> Gramps: will it run fast on kali?
<GrandpaJo> blim: you don't need kali with quake, its got its own drivers
<Algonquin> Grandpajo: Not to pry specifics, but will the >8 player net-games be too crowded to 
be fun?
<MeNToS> Gramps: is it true that quake will include a White bronco, an OJ monster and a Ghost of 
nicole monster?
<Choadster> Bwahahahahah!'
<blim> Gramps: huh? But I want to play netgames on a modem!#
<CousinTim> gramps: BUT WILL IT HAVE A PUNISHER DILDO FOR A WEAPON!!??
<Choadster> (excuse me)
<blim> gramps: will it be build in?
* JSP is waiting...
<GrandpaJo> agonquin: i don't know, the latest beta is limited to 4 players
<blim> Gramps: Quake...it will support IPX right....
<Revenant> hm
* H2H wishes he had ops so he could see the wallops (his IP is hanging out again)
<MeNToS> Gramps: is it true that quake will include a White bronco, an OJ monster and a Ghost of 
nicole monster?
<blim> Gramps: how fast will it run on Kali?
<MeNToS> answer me, you old fuck!
<blim> gramps: as fast as descent?
<GrandpaJo> cousintim: yes, it has something similar to a punisher dildo...very bloody scenes i 
must say
<blim> kick him!
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<Algonquin> blim: The FAQ said that it would communicate with network better than Descent...
<blim> Gramps: will it run fast on KALI like descent?
<blim> oh
<GrandpaJo> mentos: well, the beta does have a strange black guy in it with a medieval type 
knife..very odd
<MeNToS> GOD DAMNIT GRAMPS! ANSWER ME OR I WONT GIVE YOU YOUR ENEMA
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<MeNToS> what about the bronco
<Algonquin> blim: Are you on a 300 baud modem droppin %95 of the info, or what?
<GrandpaJo> blim: over modem you get about 90 fps on a p133
<Choadster> 90?
<GrandpaJo> mentos: no bronco, but there will be a medieval motorcycle
<Choadster> That's amusing
<JSP> 90 ? that is good right ?
<blim> algonquim: actually I'm on a 14.4 running on an ACORN in school
<Algonquin> I think we are having a problem with the language used on this IRC group.. 
nevermind.
<blim> laugh will you!
<blim> ACORNS SUCK!
<blim> well..I'm going home soon
<blim> I'll log onto the net through my PC
<blim> Al: Island School
<MeNToS> heh
<MeNToS> "So pretty please, with sugar on top, clean the fucking car"
<Choadster> Well 30 is about as fast as your eyes can pick up if I remember correctly...
<blim> Hong Kong
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<JSP> grandpajo: will you be mentioned as beta-tester with the quake ?
<blim> software is cheap here!
<blim> COME TO HK!
<blim> MEET TENNIS STARS (like I did)
<MeNToS> harvey keitel was a badass in that part
<GrandpaJo> jsp: yeah 90, but you can't see all 90 frames unless your video card can handle it
<Algonquin> Choad: Maybe _your_ eyes, but when some dude's bearing down on me with a BFG, I see 
EVERYTHING
<JSP> grandpajo: can diamond stealth 2VRAM handle 90 fps ?
<Choadster> Well ... okay good point.
<blim> my new P6 I will buy soon should handle quake!!!!!!
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<GrandpaJo> jsp: i don't know...that hasn't been discussed yet..i'm just glad id gave me 
something to do down here in this basement
<blim> POWER PENTIUM!!
<blim> hahahahaha
<blim> cool huh?
<Choadster> Jesus what kind of video card does that take? EISA 2mb Vesa Local Bus 
psycho-card-o-death?
<blim> P6...
<blim> have to go
<Choadster> Yeah that runs Windows 95 a whole 1% faster than a Pentium 133...
<blim> c you guys soom
<JSP> grandpajo: will you be mentioned as beta tester ?
<blim> at home
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<Choadster> but runs Windows NT about 100%-200% faster...
* TorQuil is in a room full of Pentium 90's.. *sigh*  and I have nothing worth playin on them
<Choadster> D'oh! TorQuil: I feel your pain.
<GrandpaJo> jsp: i don't think so...i have a test accelerator card being considered for quake 
compatibility
<Choadster> I'm surrounded by Macintoshes and there aren't nearly enough guns to destroy them... 
*sniff*
<Algonquin> Torq: Can't you ummm... put somehting on them?
<JSP> grandpajo: so you won't be mentioned...*sad*
<MeNToS> Gramps: IS that the one mae by phillip mcracken industires?
<Algonquin> Choad: HA!
<TorQuil> the only games I have right now are DoomI, DoomII, Heretic, and Dark Forces.. all of 
which I am bored to tears with..  any suggestions?
<GrandpaJo> mentos could be ;) you didn't hear that from me though
* Choadster whimpers...it's not my fault I'm stuck with these damned Macs...!
<JSP> torquil: hmm....try mw2..just to see how it runs
<Choadster> Oooh.
<Algonquin> Grampa: If you can't say that's fine, but will I BE ABLE TO RIDE THE RED DRAGON in 
the scrshot?
<TorQuil> JSP: don't have it..
<Choadster> MW2 rules on fast machines like that!
<Choadster> They love high resolution modes on it... beautiful game.
<MeNToS> Alg: only if you have the condom of penatration
<JSP> well, i have also a class full of macs just next to me, and i can feel the radiation 
coming through the door....
<Algonquin> Torq: NO HEXEN?  OR DESCENT?
<GrandpaJo> algonquin: you can ride him like wild willy...it rulz
<TorQuil> Alg: nope
<MeNToS> LAg: And if you have the amulet of shape chaning you have rde her as another dragon
<Algonquin> YES!!!!!! YES!!!!!! YESSSSSS!!!!!! THANK YOU GRANPA JO!!! YOU THE BEST GRAMPS 
EVER!!!!!!!!!
<JSP> hey ! descent will run well on p133 !!!
* JSP amazes himself
<TorQuil> Alg: I mean.. i guess I could go find the shareware somewhere, but.. is it worth all 
the trouble?  Dark Forces runs beautifully, but the sound cards are shit.
<Choadster> How is Hexen? Saw the scareware version but the damned server here decided my disk 
quota was too full to transfer it.
<GrandpaJo> algonquin: that may not be in the release version though, it slows down net games a 
lot...especially when your pants get ripped off and you're riding around naked
<TorQuil> I can get the music score, but no sfx
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<JSP> hi ukko
<Ukko> Moi seta!
<Algonquin> Ahhhh... Are you pulling my chain... Dang. (about the pants)
<JSP> grandpajo: can you tell when quake should be out ?
<Ukko> YO JSP
-_badcrc_- [WallOP->#dOOm] these guys are a riot hahaha
<MeNToS> grandpa: nd when your trouser snake goes flapping in the brese that takes up quite a 
few polys
<JSP> ALL: i wan't you to meet ukko, a friend of mine ! say hello to ukko !!
<Ukko> Hello Ukko
<GrandpaJo> JSP: feb/mar 95
<JSP> ehhehhhe
<MeNToS> ukyo tachibana
<MeNToS> hi ukko
<Ukko> Mentos: ehh same to oyu   :)
<JSP> grandpajo: but that's impossible ! febr/march 95 has allready gone !
<GrandpaJo> JSP: err, i mean 96 ;)
<JSP> how about 96 ?
<Algonquin> Gramps: So in other words Nov/Dec 98?
<Choadster> hate it when that happens
<JSP> grandpajo: oh yes yes yes !!!!
<Ukko> JSP?
<GrandpaJo> JSP: i'm just going by what the id guys already said
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<JSP> grandpajo: come on, keep the ID on the schedule if you can !!!!! me wan't quake very bad 
!!!!!
<Ukko> How did the test in biologi go?
<JSP> ukko: bad....damn bad....NOT ! i knew allmost everything
<Ukko> sp: you don't impress me... :)
<JSP> bah
<Ukko> Safkis
<JSP> grandpajo: so how do you like quake ?
<Algonquin> Al flunk out of Math 221 tonight... Well, at least I'll have more time to devote to 
looking for that QUake beta...
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<GrandpaJo> JSP: much work still needs to be done..like sometimes your characters go crazy and 
commit suicide by falling a cliff or into a pit of snakes
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<JSP> grandpajo: whoa...so how many levels there oughta be ?
<Algonquin> SNAKES!!!! GO ID!!! GO ID!!! ITS YA BIRTHDAY... etc..
<JSP> grandpajo: btw: are the snakes 3d also ?
<MeNToS> GrandpaJo: IN this beta, do they have the wild wet water nymphs?
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<GrandpaJo> JSP: in the latest beta there is about 50 levels...20 have to be cut out to bring 
the size down
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<Algonquin> Gramps--can you say if the levels isoverly castle-esque or if we get an out-of-doors 
ambience too.. ambience, where'd I hear that?
<JSP> grandpajo: 50 LEVELS IN BETA ???? 
<JSP> ?
<Algonquin> THAT 50 SOUNDS LIKE PLENTY OF ROOM FOR A WATERFALL OR A CAVE OR TWO
<MeNToS> Grandpajo: Are the wild wet wonderfule water nymphs there?
<GrandpaJo> mentos: no nymphs...but there is some horny witches that the id guys thru in for 
humor...they turn your cock into a woooden staff that can be used as a weapon
* Revenant wishes he could see wallops
* Algonquin wishes he could use wooden staff.. nevermind..
<JSP> gradpajo: ok...a pit of snakes, that makes...let see...20 snakes ? all snakes = 3d...that 
makes....A NEED FOR HIGH-PERFORMANCE PENTIUM !!!
<MeNToS> GrandpaJo: did they Tmap a supermodel's face tho the witch?>
<JSP> and i forgot to mentionen the 3d levels...
<GrandpaJo> well, 50 levels and they are all pretty rough sketches of the final versions...since 
20 have to be taken out
<JSP> grandpajo: and you mean that when WE get the beta, there's 50 levels ?
<Algonquin> GrampaJo: Do we get an out-of-doors feel?  Trees, water, hills?
<GrandpaJo> mentos: its hard to tell, they all have robes on..and they flash you 
sometimes...pretty sickening titties
<MeNToS> awww man
-> Ops on #DooM: [mWallOp:#DooM] grandpajo is being pretty talkative...
<JSP> cool hills like in MW2...
<JSP> well...i gotta go...but believe me: I'LL Be Back !
<GrandpaJo> jsp: about 30 levels in the final version...about 6 "hordes" of levels
<JSP> well C U !!!!!!
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<MeNToS> GJ: are there hookers?
<GrandpaJo> mentos: no hookers...there's too much fighting going on for sex you fool!
<Algonquin> Gramps: Can ya heeer me gramps?  Pleez sey there's's mountains, trees, caves, 
swamps, trees.. Please at least pretty TREES!
<GrandpaJo> algonquin: of course there is trees, swamps, and caves...this is medieval
<Algonquin> Okay nevermind then...  IS it only castles and indoors then?
<Algonquin> OH!  THANKS!!!! DID YOU FEEL "like you wuz there"?
<GrandpaJo> algonquin: well, in the latest beta there was no sound...they pulled it at the last 
minute due to problems...the next beta will have sounds i think
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<Algonquin> Aha.. I AM SO FREAKIN' STOKED...  Err... What's the security at ID like???  Maybe 
could a small Mack Truck get me in?
<Algonquin> Nevermind, I joking
<GrandpaJo> algonquin: there is some nasty critters though...like these strange things on the 
ground that look like big ants...once they get on you its hard to get them off and they eat 
your legs off and shit, a
<Algonquin> Thank ou GrampaJo for answering these burning questions..
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<Algonquin> Seriously, I flunkedc Calculus just dinking on the computers.... waiting for more 
info....
<GrandpaJo> algonquin: you can't walk and you have to crawl around and shit, and purchase false 
wooden legs
<Algonquin> Ahhhhhh... Are you serious or joking?? That sounds way in deep if you're serious, 
but I had my share of legs pulled....
<GrandpaJo> well, its in the beta...probably won't be in the release
<Algonquin> Ohhhh... THIS GAME IS GOING TO RULE THE COSMOS!!!!!
<GrandpaJo> by 'purchase' i mean you can buy things to use as your legs...or carve your own shit 
from trees and use them for anything you want
<Algonquin> GET OUTTA HERE!!!! THIS SOUNDS SO FAR OUT!!!!  AWESOME!!!!!
<GrandpaJo> like you can break off a tree branch and use it as a trap to impail your enemies in 
deathmatch
<Capellan> lunchbox: nope
<Algonquin> SO THE PHYSICS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WASN't JUST FALLING, EVERYTHING HAS A 
DENSITY, AND HOW YOU EMPLOY SIZE AND DENSITY AFFECTS EVERYTHIGN????
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<GrandpaJo> algonquin: well, everything seemed pretty real as far as physics goes
<Algonquin> OH MY GOSH!!!!! 
<Capellan> hexen's cool -- but it's pretty slow multiplayer on my PC
<Algonquin> Thanks a ton gramps... I feel I can peacefully do my homework, knowing that ID is 
way far ahead of everything in the universe!
<GrandpaJo> well, i gotta go idle now in the basement...later
<Capellan> ha ha
<Algonquin> BYE GRAMPS!!! THANKS!!!!!
<|cyke|> Anybody played Witchaven?
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