Archive-name: info-vax/part01 Last-modified: 1992/08/02 [Changes since last posting: None.] Please send all changes, corrections, comments, or additions to munroe@dmc.com. The Info-VAX Monthly Posting ---------------------------- PART 1 -- Introduction to Info-VAX. (Coordinated by Dick Munroe, written by many others) (Part 2 is Beginner "Common Questions". Part 3 is Advanced Common Questions. Part 4 is about how to find software.) Save this message for future reference! There are four parts to this monthly posting. This first part is concerned with network etiquette and is redundant to people that read Usenet's monthly postings for new users. If you are on Usenet, you might want to skip it. The other two parts are beginning and advanced questions respectively. Welcome to the Internet VAX Discussion group. This group is known by different names on different networks (Info-VAX, comp.os.vms, etc). We'll call it Info-VAX, for convenience's sake. About 13,000 users read it on Usenet, the global estimate is at about 50,000 users. The purpose of Info-VAX is to discuss issues surrounding VAX computer systems. Most of Info-VAX is oriented towards VAX/VMS. Info-VAX does have a lot of knowledgeable VAX/VMS users; Info-VAX is *not* a forum for discussion of absolutely everything involving VAX systems. Internet discussion groups also exist for particular software products (for example, PMDF and Kermit), for some general topic areas (such as security or education), and for special purpose hardware. This message has two purposes: first, to give you an idea of what Info-VAX is all about, how to use it effectively, and how to make it work best for you. Second, to answer some of the most frequently asked questions on Info-VAX. What this message won't do is tell you how to send messages to Info-VAX, or how to use your own mailing system. There are dozens of mailing systems available for VAX computers, and even more ways of connecting VAX systems to the Internet. You should ask your system administrator exactly how to send or post messages to Info-VAX. Some general advice is given but no specific commands. The best way to learn how to use Info-VAX is to watch others use it. If you have just subscribed to Info-VAX, consider lurking for a few days to see what people are doing and why. Here is a brief guide to Info-VAX, phrased as a set of commonly asked questions and our rational answers. 1. What is Info-VAX? Info-VAX is a number of things. If you read it on Usenet, you see it as a Newsgroup called comp.os.vms and you subscribe and unsubscribe just like any newsgroup (ask your system administrator, it's different on different machines). Post messages just like any other newsgroup. If you read it on Bitnet it is called Info-VAX but it is mailed to you (like normal email) and you subscribe to it by sending a mail message containing just the text "SUBSCRIBE INFO-VAX" to LISTSERV@(nearest listserv computer). You unsubscribe by sending a mail message containing just the text "SIGNOFF INFO-VAX" to the *SAME* listserv address. Ask your system administrator for more help. Post messages to "info-vax@sri.com". Do not send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to that address. If you are reading it on the Internet it also arrives as mail. To subscribe or unsubscribe send mail to "info-vax-request@sri.com" politely asking to be added or removed. Send posts to "info-vax@sri.com". Do not send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to "info-vax@sri.com" If you are on the Internet in the UK, people should send a message to info-vax-request@Uk.ac.ulcc.ncdlab containing the word: SUBSCRIBE They will be added to the UK fanout. DELETE or UNSUBSCRIBE removes them. 2. What is a "signature"? In order to let people not at your site know who you really are, you may want to create a "signature" file which you append to network mail messages. Your news or mail software may do this automatically (usually using the file ".signature") or you may create a function key binding in EDT or TPU to do this. If someone writes up a quick way to do this, I'll include it in this posting. A signature file typically has your real full name, plus a short list of addresses. Under no circumstances should your signature be longer than 4 lines. Signatures should have your name and affiliation, plus your preferred electronic mail address. If you can squeeze your mailing address and phone number onto a single line, put that in too. This leaves you a whole line for personal creativity. More than that is an expensive waste of network resources---it might not cost YOU anything to send the message out, but thousands of people are paying phone bills to send it across the US and around the world. Do not include cute graphics, boxes, or extended non-crucial information in your signature. 3. What return addresses should I put in my signature? Some readers will be able to get your return mail address from the header of something you post. Very often, however, the address will be damaged in transit, so you can make it much easier on them by including your preferred mail address. Normally, a maximum of two addresses are appropriate---putting your CompuServe/Telemail/MCI/GEnie address in, or the address of a system you don't check every day is unlikely to be useful to anyone. If you are on a BITNET-only node, simply include your node name in the BITNET domain, like this: jms@arizmis.bitnet. If you're directly connected to the Internet, put in your Internet address, like this: jms@mis.arizona.edu. If you're not directly connected, try to express your address in terms of a nearby gateway, like this: jms%evax2@rvax.ccit.arizona.edu. While most mailers are smart enough to deal with domain name system hosts which aren't directly connected (sometimes called MX-record systems), it turns out that VMS mailers typically can't, and people won't be able to figure out what's going on. Your system administrator will be able to tell you if you're directly connected or not; one of the nice things about the domain name addresses is that you can't tell just by looking at the address. If you're a part of usenet, your return address should include some relatively well-known site, like this: arizona!small!smaller!smallest!user. Finally, don't try to second-guess mailers. If you're on BITNET, don't advise Internet users on how to send you mail---you'll be wrong about half the time. Your parents' postal address, an Email address of only local significance, or your longitude and latitude are only useful to (a) your parents' friends, (b) people at your site, or (c) operators of thermonuclear devices. None of (a), (b), or (c) read Info-VAX. Note that there's nothing wrong with having multiple signature files (each used for different "kinds" of postings). 4. How can I make sure that my message gets through ungarbled? There are a couple of good rules. Keeping the lines of your message under 80 characters, and under 72 if possible, will make sure that everyone can read what you have written. Leaving out all special control characters is another idea. In particular, tabs probably will get screwed up somewhere along the way. Finally, if you intend to put in characters which are somewhat off the beaten path, you may want to include a translation table at the end, giving the character and the name, so if a tilde comes out as an ampersand, the reader knows how to map properly. This is a particular problem for BITNET users. You might opt to use VMS_SHARE which encodes text files (they are semi-readable until you decode them.) 5. Why do I see replies before the question? Info-VAX is asynchronous---messages flow in what should be considered a completely random way. What you think is the previous message probably isn't; your reply may well get to sites before the message you're replying to. If you reply to a message, excerpt the message you're replying to so that readers have a little context. Including the ENTIRE message, however, is in very bad taste. Cut it down to the minimum needed to remind the reader what's going on. 6. I'm going to write a letter to the President of Digital because some Digital employee said ... Don't forget that we're all people out here. The nature of Info-VAX makes it easy to forget this. If someone writes something which you think is totally outrageous, a public computer conference is NOT the place to take the issue up; this is one of the reasons that mail was invented. All messages on any conference should be considered (a) in the public domain, for you never know who will excerpt and reprint your words and (b) the opinion of the author only, not their company. 7. Someone posted a 28 part software package, and I didn't get part 26. What do I do? There are lots of things you can do; the one thing you DON'T do is send a message out to Info-VAX asking if someone can please resend part 26. Instead send a message to the poster of the other 27 parts asking them to send you part 26. In general, the answers to questions 6 and 7 can be boiled down to this: when possible, use electronic mail. Anything which is of primary interest to a single person only should be directed to that person, not to the other 50,000 people who read Info-VAX. This includes, but is not limited to: o A Request for copies of answers they receive to a posted question. o A request to summarize answers and post them to the group. o A message telling someone that their answer is all wrong (let the poster correct the mistake; you're probably not the only one who noticed the error). o A message telling someone that something they said is inappropriate for Info-VAX. Actually, if someone sends out something particularly obnoxious, the last resort is to forward it to their system administrator, usually an account called "postmaster." This should only be done after personal mail to the person has failed to get results. Everyone else on Info-VAX saw the original message; posting a message to the entire network won't help matters any. 8. What does :-) mean? This is the net convention for a "smiley face". It means that something is being said in jest. If it doesn't look like a smiley face to you, flop your head over to the left and look again. There's also ;-) (a knowing wink), :-( (displeasure, bad news), :-| (Straight face or "no I'm not joking"). There are many variations, and the validity of publishing even this many on Info-VAX is pretty questionable :-). 9. What is the address of foo company? Despite the fact that you can certainly get the address of virtually any company by sending out a broadcast to Info-VAX, doing so will earn you the scorn of your peers. Telephone books, trade magazines, buying guides, and directory assistance should all be tried before asking 50,000 people to check their files. This is not to say that all such queries are inappropriate --- obviously some companies are hard to find, and the multi-national character of Info-VAX means that some of this information is not readily accessible. 10. How do I get from BITNET to UUCP, ARPA to BITNET, JANET etc etc? It's tempting to put these kind of queries on Info-VAX, but the answers vary so much from site to site that most answers you get will be meaningless. Ask your system manager. On the other hand, if you are a system manager, and you don't know, your question is best phrased like this: "We are running x Operating System using y Networking Software and attached using z Communications Channel to w Network. Can anyone suggest a way to increase our connectivity?" If you're a new site on a larger campus, other system managers on your campus will probably be able to give you better help faster. 11. What is "anonymous ftp?? "FTP" stands for File Transfer Protocol; on many systems, it's also the name of a user-level program that implements that protocol. This program allows a user to transfer files to and from a remote network site, provided that network site is reachable via the Internet or a similar facility. (Ftp is also usable on many local-area networks.) "Anonymous FTP" indicates that a user may log into the remote system as user "anonymous" with their network address as a password. This is sometimes useful to those sites that track ftp usage. Also note that most sites restrict when transfers can be made, or at least suggest that large transfers be made only during non-peak hours. Bitnet and Usenet users can not do FTP. There are similar facilities available to you; ask your system administrator. 12. What does RTFM mean? It means this: "you have asked a question which I believe would best be answered by consulting the manual, a copy of which should be in your possession. The question you have asked is clearly answered in the manual, and you are wasting time asking all these people to read it to you." More specifically, "Read the F-ing Manual." If someone posts a question which you feel is best answered with "RTFM," the prevailing wisdom on Info-VAX is that it is more polite to mail your "RTFM" than post it. Other common abbreviations: IMHO - In My Humble Opinion FYI - For Your Information BTW - By The Way FAQ - Frequently Asked Question(s) FAQ when used in a context like "the FAQ" generally refers to a posting of answers to Frequently Asked Questions, such as this posting. Such postings are usually posted monthly on many newsgroups or mailing lists, so it is a good idea to try to find one if you join a newsgroup or mailing list. Note that a large list of all known FAQ postings in newsgroups is posted periodically in the usenet newsgroup news.admin (since "is there a FAQ for this group" is itself a FAQ). 13. I couldn't get mail through to somebody on another site. Again, this answer is more a "don't" than a "do." DON'T post it to the entire list with the caveat, "I couldn't get mail through to this guy, so I'm posting instead." There are lots of good ways of getting in contact with people --- directory assistance if you don't know the phone number, or the phone if you do, as well as services offered by the US Postal Service, which can be had for a mere 29 cents. People outside of America have complained about the last sentence and rightfully so. I know that user-directory services are forecoming, but until then I guess everyone must make do. 14. I just installed some new software; I want to test it out. Don't send a message to Info-VAX with the text "this is just a test; please ignore." Figure out some other way to test your software. People on Usenet can use misc.test for this purpose. 15. OK, I've got a question for Info-VAX. What do I do ? Your question on Info-VAX should read like this: a. Here is our configuration. b. Here is an exact description of the problem. c. Please send replies to me; I will summarize and post a summary. Point (c) is very important. When you ask 50,000 people the favor of answering your questions, you should return the favor by gathering, summarizing, and posting your summary. 16. Someone just posted a question I know the answer to. What do I do? It depends. If the answer is short, and likely to be repeated, send the reply to the poster, and suggest that they summarize and post a summary. If you think that you're the only one who will have the right answer (unlikely, but it happens) or, if you think that the answer you will write is so interesting that others will want to read it right away (you can be liberal in this judgment), then post it to Info-VAX. Many sites, particularly those outside the continental U.S. receive messages from Info-VAX four or five days after they were first sent. It is not uncommon for a message to generate twenty or thirty replys from sites in the U.S., followed, seven to ten days later by a fresh wave of replies from Australia and New Zealand. If you are not certain that you have something unique to say in your reply, wait a few hours before posting it. You might find that everything you wanted to say has already been said by someone who got the original message first. -- Dick Munroe Internet: munroe@dmc.com Doyle Munroe Consultants, Inc. UUCP: ...uunet!thehulk!munroe 267 Cox St. Office: (508) 568-1618 Hudson, Ma. USA FAX: (508) 562-1133 GET CONNECTED!!! Send mail to info@dmc.com to find out about DMConnection.