VIRUS-L Digest Monday, 5 Dec 1988 Volume 1 : Issue 32 Today's Topics: Re: Morris's intent RE: More on Morris FYI: SECURITY has returned Vested interest in viruses? Re: Lock on my door Paper virus hits the classifieds --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 03 Dec 88 12:23:23 EST From: "Homer W. Smith" Subject: Re: Morris's intent I would like to remind everyone that Mir system was flawed. Homer [Ed. In Gene Spafford's Internet Worm report, he raises some very interesting possibilities as to the author(s)'s identity. The code appears quite inconsistant, ranging from highly optimized professionally written code (e.g., the crypt function works 9 times faster than the BSD version") to amateurish code with multiple (unused) global variables and subroutines that never get called. Since Morris has not made a public statement acknowledging that he was the (sole) author of the worm, to the best of my knowledge, is it safe to even assume that he did (all) the work?] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Dec 88 13:51 EST From: Chris Bracy Subject: RE: More on Morris >>> ... For example, it >>>is a fact that the average lock on the entrance to the average American >>>home can be picked in thirty seconds or less. However, you won't find >>>any should have. Sincerely! > >No! I choose to have open windows on my house and doors that can be >easily opened and closed. To argue that I should live in a bank vault >to avoid the thugs is wrong. I should live as I choose, and if a thug >enters and robs, or just enters, he or she is at fault and should be >delt with. If my insurance goes up, that is my problem, but your >right to walk in because I have installed poor or no locks is not >granted. But if the house would be in a mall or other high pedrestrian district, people are bound to walk in. This is a better analogy to the traffic on internet. Granted, then it would be by accident but the house analogy isn't quite right. Chris. *==============================*======================================* | Chris A. Bracy | Student Consultant | | (215) 758-4141 | Lehigh University Computing Center | | Kcabrac@Vax1.cc.Lehigh.Edu | Fairchild Martindale Bldg.==========================* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Dec 88 14:50 EST From: Jim Shaffer Subject: FYI: SECURITY has returned In the light of the recent Internet problems (to put it lightly), I thought that people on this list might be interested in another list which just re-activated. - --Jim - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - From: IN%"security@pyrite.rutgers.EDU" 3-DEC-1988 07:54:54.00 Subj: The List Returns Sender: SECURITY Digest Reply-to: security@pyrite.rutgers.EDU Yes, you heard it correctly; the Security list is being reactivated after a long vacation in limbo. The vax it was being distributed from got sold off as a doorstop and replaced with this Sun 4/280 [an even better personal workstation!]. [*lots* of stuff deleted] Bitnet recipients can add themselves by sending a message to LISTSERV@UGA containing SUBm aim.rutgers.edu to pyrite.rutgers.edu, if you happened to hear about it via outdated material. If you are on a unix site that receives the misc.security newsgroup, please read the material from there and save network bandwidth, unless you have some special requirement. This list is gatewayed to the newsgroup. *Hobbit* One of several jacks-of-all-trades for LCS at Rutgers Security-request@pyrite.rutgers.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Dec 88 14:56:26 EST From: "Homer W. Smith" Subject: Vested interest in viruses? To: virus list , ethics-l@polygraph Wouldn't it be in the interests of the people who SELL anti virus software to INVENT and SPREAD viruses so that a demand would be created for their own software? Seems like this is bound to happen. Homer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Dec 88 04:32:42 MST From: fletch - ->>home can be picked in thirty seconds or less. However, you won't find - ->>any robber arguing that it was the homeowner's fault that he didn't have - ->>a better lock on the door! - -> - ->Even though they probably should have. Sincerely! - - - -No! I choose to have open windows on my house and doors that can be - -easily opened and closed. To argue that I should live in a bank vault - -to avoid the thugs is wrong. I should live as I choose, and if a thug - -enters and robs, or just enters, he or she is at fault and should be - -delt with. If my insurance goes up, that is my problem, but your - -right to walk in because I have installed poor or no locks is not - -granted. We all *should* live as we choose. In reality, criminals deprive us daily of things ranging from those that will never be missed to those that are irreplaceable. I dealt with this by providing superior safeguards where appropriate. I hated it. I also hate rude "gotcha's" every bielong or are welcome. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ! Walter Reid Fletcher, WB7CJO Bitnet: FLETCHER@UWYO ! ! Vax Facility Manager FLETCHER%LODE@UWYO ! ! Department of Geology and Geophysics FLETCHER%MOHO@UWYO ! ! University of Wyoming +--------------------------------------+ ! Laramie, WY 82071 1-307-766-6227 ! The aerielly locomotive fowl that ! ! ! exhibits reduced duration hesitation ! ! Internet: FLETCHER@OUTLAW.UWYO.EDU ! parameters must realize an enhanced ! ! ! worm procuring scenario. ! +--------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Dec 88 16:27 EST From: Lynn R Grant Subject: Paper virus hits the classifieds The Rethe Friday, December 3, 1988 edition: I'M THE PERSONALS Virus. Please type up an exact copy of me and send it in. I trust the editors of The Reader will limit the spread of this one. Lynn R. Grant Technical Consultant Computer Associates International, Inc. ------------------------------ End of VIRUS-L Digest ********************* Downloaded From P-80 International Information Systems 304-744-2253