TELECOM Digest Wed, 23 Feb 94 15:26:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 101 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson GSM FAX Transmission (Lars Kalsen) Lowest Number in the NANP? (Dave Levenson) Has Anyone Heard of Filex? (Bob Malik) Modulation Techniques (Fil Parong) Calling 800 Numbers in USA From UK (Julian Thornhill) Intern's Pay in Telecom (Ramaiah V. Narla) Re: Why Caller-ID Instead of ANI? (Les Reeves) Re: Phone Number History (David Breneman) Re: Vermont Gets Ready For NNX Area Codes (Bob Goudreau) Re: Digital Cellular Phones (Bob Goudreau) Re: Paging Available on Cellular Phones (Robert Wilson) Re: Area Code Closeness (Robert Casey) Re: Caller-ID Question (Jack Coats) Orange Card Mailed Out (Carl Moore) Another Misprogrammed COCOT (Carl Moore) Re: AT&T's New 900 Mhz Cordless Phone (Cliff Sharp) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. 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TELECOM Digest is gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup comp.dcom.telecom. It has no connection with the unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.dcom.telecom.tech whose mailing list "Telecom-Tech Digest" shares archives resources at lcs.mit.edu for the convenience of users. Please *DO NOT* cross post articles between the groups. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dalk@login.dkuug.dk (Lars Kalsen) Subject: GSM FAX Transmission Date: 23 Feb 94 19:00:17 GMT Organization: DKnet Hi outhere, I am writing on an overview article on FAX-transmission via the GSM network. I would like to know if anybody: - have some references to articles on the subject; - or books; - references to products; - any other information. If you have any information -- please E-mail me. Or if you have a copy of an article send it to me by ordinary mail -- or fax on +45 98 24 65 02 (denmark). Greetings from Denmark. Lars Kalsen Kingosvej 5 D 9490 Pandrup Denmark dalk@login.dkuug.dk ------------------------------ From: dave@westmark.com (Dave Levenson) Subject: Lowest Number in the NANP? Reply-To: dave@westmark.com Organization: Westmark, Inc. Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 14:54:09 GMT According to NJ Bell's automatic intercept service, the number 201-200-0000 is 'being checked for trouble'. The number 201-200-0001 has been disconnected. I didn't try any others in that prefix. Dave Levenson Internet: dave@westmark.com Westmark, Inc. UUCP: {uunet | rutgers | att}!westmark!dave Stirling, NJ, USA Voice: 908 647 0900 Fax: 908 647 6857 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Why not try 0002, 0003, etc and let us know your findings. I wonder if they know the significance of their number? What about at the other end of the line, any from the 919-999 range? PAT] ------------------------------ From: u3212alb@elm.circa.ufl.edu (Bob Malik) Subject: Has Anyone Heard of Filex? Date: 23 Feb 1994 12:48:50 GMT Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville Does anyone know about a PC communications package called Filex? I think the company that makes it is giving out 150,000 copies of it for $10 each. If you have any info, please send email to: u3212alb@elm.circa.ufl.edu Thanks, Bob Malik ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 12:32:58 EST From: Fil_Parong@ccmail.GSFC.NASA.GOV Subject: Modulation Techniques Is anyone familiar with PM and BPSK modulation techniques? Please reply to Fil_Parong@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 08:48:14 GMT From: jth@ionospheric-physics.leicester.ac.uk (Julian Thornhill) Subject: Calling 800 Numbers in USA From UK Does anyone know how I might call a US 800 number from the UK? As you might guess this cannot be done in the normal way. Even being able to find out the real chargeable number would be a help. Some firms in their ads only give 800 numbers and it is really frustrating when you want to call them ... Julian Thornhill Email to jth@ion.le.ac.uk Physics Department Leicester University University Road Tel 0533 523566 FAX 0533 523555 Leicester LE1 7RH +44-533-523566 (international) [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We've touched on this several times in the past year or so. You can attempt to to get through using the "USA Direct" service of the various carriers, and asking that operator to connect you. Some will do it, some won't. If you go through AT&T for example, the called party will be charged for a call from Pennsylvania. Generally the subscribers to 800 service in the USA do not wish to receive calls from outside the USA (at least on their toll-free line) for various reasons, one being that perhaps they are unable/not allowed/ do not wish to sell their products outside this country. Others would love to sell their products anywhere in the world, but have very stupid advertising/PR-droids who do not have any idea how telephones work in other countries. This comes up so often here, I am wondering: if I were to install a couple lines here which people could call from all over the world for the specific purpose of being reconnected to an 800 number, would anyone be interested in using it if they had to pay $10 per month and use a passcode to make the call (once they were connected through me)? PAT] ------------------------------ From: Ramaiah V Narla Subject: Intern's Pay in Telecom Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:04:09 EST I applied with the North American Telecommunications Association (NATA) for practical training after my master's studies in telecommunications. I received an offer, over the phone, of a summer internship -- $10 for an 8-hr day (allowance/pocket money for meals and transport only, according to the official). The work involved market research and report generation in the international and national telecom areas. [Of course, I declined the offer respectfully -- it's just not practical]. Anyway, what I'd like to know is: is that how interns are taken up? So badly paid? In the telecom industry, particularly? And, could an institution such as NATA be as resource-starved? (The official said they only pick up two interns each summer and pay them each just $10/day, due to resource crunch). Any feedback will help me understand the telecom policy and research job market better and my thanks in advance for it. Ram Narla narlaram@msu.edu ------------------------------ From: lreeves@crl.com (Les Reeves) Subject: Re: Why Caller-ID Instead of ANI? Date: 23 Feb 1994 09:38:27 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Scott Baer (baers@agcs.com) wrote: > Now, directly to my question, what is the (10XXX) PIC code for Cable & > Wireless? I would like to test this claim that C&W passes the > identity of the caller to the called party's Caller-ID display box. The PIC code for C&W is 10223. However, they *do not* accept calls from casual (non pre-subscribed) customers. Les lreeves@crl.com Atlanta,GA ------------------------------ From: daveb@jaws (David Breneman) Subject: Re: Phone Number History Date: 23 Feb 94 17:40:32 GMT Organization: Digital Systems International, Redmond WA David Breneman (ME) (daveb@jaws) wrote: > My parents waited over ten years for a private line in the 206-858 > exchange. Finally, somebody moved into the neighborhood (never found > out who) who would leave his phone off the hook at night. If you > picked up the phone, you could hear him snoring! When my parents > complained repeatedly about the danger of this situation, the phone > company (Island Empire, now Pacific Telecom) finally relented and gave > them a private line, but charged $1.25 per month per mile for the > distance between their house and the central (crossbar) switch in Gig > Harbor (Washington -- near Tacoma). This was about 1979. > [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They should have called their party line > neighbor during the day and told him to quit doing that. Yes, you could > call your party line neighbor on the phone even though the logical way > of thinking was that if you went off hook, the line would become busy so > how would you reach him ... during manual service days, if you simply > asked for the other side of your party line (let's say you were 1234-J > and party was 1234-W) then the response from the operator was 'line > is busy', the same as if you asked for your own number by accident, and > people would sometimes do that. The operator did not look at who was > *calling* unless there was a billing function involved, she looked at > who was *being called*; the (cord) tip to (jack) ring test would 'test > busy' and that was her report ... bing! she was gone to handle another > call. So you tipped her off by saying 'calling my party line, 1234-W', > and she would say to hang up, let her ring it and pick up the phone > again in maybe twenty seconds. She could then ring on the line (yours > and party's would both ring) and if party answered she told them to > hold on a couple seconds until you picked up again. On our phone system, you could call somebody on your party line by dailing their number, waiting for the busy signal, hanging up, then allowing their phone enough time to ring and picking your receiver back up. Unfortunately, it was something like a 12 party line, and we had no idea who the guy was -- and the phone company naturally wouldn't tell us. The dial-the-number-and-hang-up feature was especially useful in that you could ring your *own* phone that way, too. Just the ticket when an annoying salesman or Jehovah's Witness came to call. > Anyway, your parents should have called the snorer, and with the music > of J.S. Bach's "Sleeper's Awake" playing sweetly in the background given > him a piece of their mind. My dad tried a police whistle on a couple of occasions without much luck. Apparently this guy was a heavy sleeper. > I wonder if the guy even knew he was on a party line or if he was > just plain inconsiderate Probably just ignorant. This was about the time the California Invasion started in Washington. I'm sure most of these folks had no idea what a party line was or did. Later the phone company got even with all of us -- when they switched from the crossbar system to an electronic one, about 1980, everybody got *new* phone numbers (206-851), and all of the old numbers (206-858) were assigned to new customers. That's what you get for complaining. :-) David Breneman Email: daveb@jaws.engineering.dgtl.com System Administrator, Voice: 206 881-7544 Fax: 206 556-8033 Product Development Platforms Digital Systems International, Inc. Redmond, Washington, U. S. o' A. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:45:32 -0500 From: goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com (Bob Goudreau) Subject: Re: Vermont Gets Ready For NNX Area Codes John Levine writes: > A flyer in my latest phone bill reveals that Vermont's new toll > dialing plan is 1-802-NNX-XXXX... > Personally, I find the new plan to be a big pain in the neck, since, > due to a peculiarity of exchange boundaries, it'll require that I dial > most free local calls within our town with 11 digits. Please explain these two statements. If it's a "free local call" (within the same area code, no less), then it's not a toll call, so why is "Vermont's new toll dialing plan" relevant here at all? Do you currently dial these calls as eight digits (1 + 7D)? If so, why? What is Nynex up to? Are there any other places in the NANP where local intra-NPA calls require more than seven digits to dial? Bob Goudreau Data General Corporation goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 Alexander Drive +1 919 248 6231 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Around where my office used to be on Howard Street in Chicago, everything I called locally had to be dialed as 1-708-seven digits because it was fifty feet north of me which at that point was the end of 312 and the start of 708. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:39:47 -0500 From: goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com (Bob Goudreau) Subject: Re: Digital Cellular Phones In article david boettger writes: >> Careful. I think that when Alex says "all digital", he means exactly >> that -- a cellular system that using nothing but digital signaling. >> Dual-mode systems, which combine support for the old (analog) AMPS >> system with support for one of the new digital systems (TDMA or CDMA) >> are *not* all-digital. > If you're going to use this definition, there are no "all digital" > cells in commercial operation; there are merely cells which have some > channels dedicated to digital traffic and some which are dedicated to > analog traffic .... Correct. That is *exactly* the point I was trying to make, and which I suspect Alex was also trying to make when he said "It is difficult for me to imagine an all digital cellular network" in North America in the near future. I.e., the installed base of AMPS equipment is not something that can be easily wished away. I suspect that dual-mode systems will exist for quite a while, even in Canada. Bob Goudreau Data General Corporation goudreau@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 Alexander Drive +1 919 248 6231 Research Triangle Park, NC 27709, USA ------------------------------ From: rwilson@inca.gate.net (Robert Wilson) Subject: Re: Paging Available on Cellular Phones Date: 23 Feb 1994 14:11:48 -0500 The Fujitsu PCX cellphone has a voice chip which when the unit is set to pager mode will answer the incoming call, tell the party you are unable to come to the phone, and logs up to five numbers. This feature works well for call-screening as you can "pick-up" if you wish as the caller is leaving his/her number. Rob ------------------------------ From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey) Subject: Re: Area Code Closeness Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 19:24:03 GMT I had thought/heard that the semi-random distribution of area codes in the USA was done to avoid confusion of numberically close area codes with geographically close areas. Especially in the same state. "was that area code 402 or 403 for Yerksville, South Dakota, Can't remember which my friend said", vs. if the two area codes are much different, "he said 70 something, lets see, that has to be 702 according to the phone book map". Phone companies tend to do the same thing with phone exchanges inside the same area codes. The phone company's got your number! [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Hey, there was a time in the early days of area codes (late 1950's and much of the 1960's) when the same prefix was not assigned in two adjoining area codes. That was done to allow for 'community dialing' across state lines, where area codes always change. That is, '659' showed up in Whiting, Indiana. It did not show up in 312, 815 (since a tiny bit of the south end of 815 touches 219) nor in 317 nor in 216. The main consideration was the 219/312 closeness where until about 1970 or so, anyone in the extreme upper northwest corner of 219 (Hammond, East Chicago, Whiting, Munster) could call any number in 312 as seven digits only. Ditto in reverse. But once you got into (or past, I cannot remember which) Gary, Indiana going east then you had to dial 312 to reach Chicago. Then one day they announced that the little northwest corner had a choice: either they could being dialing 312 to reach Chicago, or 1+7 digits to reach elsewhere in the northern Indiana 219 area. Telco made the choice to go with the latter leaving Hammond/Whiting, etc hooked to Chicago for calling purposes. With the change in telcos in the late 1970's (northwest Indiana was taken away from Illinois Bell and turned over to Indiana Bell) the requirement of dialing not just 312, but 1-312 (!) to reach Chicago was added, and the 1+7D for the rest of 219 was dropped. PAT] ------------------------------ From: jocoats@amoco.com (Jack Coats) Subject: Re: Caller-ID Question Reply-To: jocoats@amoco.com Organization: Amoco Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 08:41:10 CST There was an article in one of the popular electronics type magazines (check your local library) in the last couple of months on how to build your own caller-id display machine. It would be easy to modify it (it uses a PIC micro processor) to have a serial output instead or also, that could feed your PC or whatever. The data, if I remember right, is 1200 baud. You can get a couple of codes other than just the number too. One is if you are out of the area where the codes are available (seems silly to me, if the phone company can figure out how to charge collect calls), and another code if the caller has the Caller-ID blocked. E-mail: jocoats@amoco.com Fax: 713/366-7570 Voice: 713/366-7120 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 15:11:57 EST From: Carl Moore Subject: Orange Card Mailed Out I have received the Orange Card (although the account has been active for a long time) There is a slight problem: My address changed in the meantime, and the card (mailed from the Harrisburg, Pa. area with the address of Spring Park, MN 55384) reached me through the mail-forwarding. The billing for calls made on that card is already being sent to my new address, but Orange Communications still does not have my new address. This is the letter I got, dated 10 Feb.: Dear Orange Card Customer: Please find enclosed your permanent Orange Calling Card. Please note that your authorization number has not changed and that the PIN number you are currently using will stay the same also. The procedure for using the card is listed on the back of the permanent card and you will note that it is has [sic] not changed. Thank you for your patience during our delay in sending your permanent Orange Calling Card. We appreciate your business! Sincerely, Orange Communications, Inc. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 8:29:36 EST From: Carl Moore Subject: Another Misprogrammed COCOT A COCOT I saw on a trip I just took across Vermont had (usual) roblems with 10xxx access code (I used 1-800-321-0288 instead of 10288) and also had this problem with use of the Orange Card: I was able to call 1-800-(Orange Card Number), get the resulting tone, then punch in the ten-digit code and the ten-digit number I was calling, then get the next burst of tone, but then got "DISCONNECTED" on the display I saw. ------------------------------ From: indep1!clifto (Cliff Sharp) Date: Tue, Feb 15 08:40:30 1994 Subject: Re: AT&T's New 900 Mhz Cordless Phone In article blaskin@panix.com (Bruce Laskin) writes: > (Most wireless home phones put out no more than 0.5mw.) I suspect you mean 0.5W. 500 microwatts, used with the el-cheapo receivers in most wireless phones, would give an effective range of about three feet... provided there was absolutely no interference. However, I remember something about Part 15 transmitters (other than spread-spectrum) being limited to 100 milliwatts. My really really el-cheapo wireless (49 MHz / 1.7 MHZ) put out about 50 to 70 milliwatts on a good charge day. Cliff Sharp WA9PDM ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V14 #101 ****************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Downloaded From P-80 International Information Systems 304-744-2253