==Phrack Inc.== Volume Two, Issue 20, File 9 of 12 Metal Shop Private's -- New Users ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This was the New User subboard where people could apply for membership on Metal Shop Private as you will see in a number of places throughout this message base. All messages were posted anonymously except by those applying (who didn't actually post their application but it was arranged that way). Note: Not all of the signatures on the ends of messages are correct as will be obvious at times, but not at others. 1/46: A few jokes... Name: <<< Knight Lightning 2 >>> Date: 10:41 pm Mon May 04, 1987 Ok, please note, the characters portrayed here are fictional. Picture a bar full of phone phreaks. Jester Sluggo walks in drunk. He goes to the front and gets a beer. He chugs it and looks at the people on the left side of the bar and says, "ALL OF YOU ON THIS SIDE OF THE BAR ARE MOTHERFUCKERS! ANY OF YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?" "No not me they cried, not wanting to incure damage. Sluggo chugs another beer and then looks up and says, "ALL OF YOU ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BAR ARE COCKSUCKERS! ANY OF YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?" "No not I,"they all cried. Then suddenly a small figured mexican national stood up and started walking towards Sluggo. "YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING I SAID," he belched. "No no senor, I was on the wrong side of the bar." --> The Amazing Comic! 2/46: Galactus's Application: Name: Galactus Date: 2:33 pm Tue May 05, 1987 APPLICATION OF -=GALACTUS=- FOR -=METAL SHOP=- MEMBERSHIP; 1.AGE 21 2.SEX M 3.NUMBER OF YEARS HACKING:5 4.NUMBER OF YEARS PHREAKING:2 5.PHILES WRITTEN: HACKING THE HP2000 (PARTS 1-6) HACKING THE HP3000 HACKING TOPS USING DIVERTERS OUT DATED PHILES: HACKING MCDONALDS HACKING PRIMOS (BEING REVISED) SPECIALTIES: LOCATING PBX'S AND DIVERTERS COMMON OPERATING SYSTEMS USING DIVERTERS HAVE LOTS OF GOOD EXPERIANCE ON: HP2000, HP3000, TOPS, RSTS, PRIMOS VAX/VMS, VM-370, UNIX, ETC... MY PHILES MAY BE READ ON THIS BOARD AND P-80 OLD ALIAS: NANUK OF THE NORTH 3/46: Ok... Name: <<< Taran King 1 >>> Date: 2:37 pm Tue May 05, 1987 I've talked to this fellow and he doesn't know a hell of a lot about phreaking but seems to know a bit about hacking anyway. You may have seen him on Phreak Klass Room 2600 too, but I don't know since I'm not on there. So what do ya think? -TK 4/46: Nanuk.. Name: <<< Mad Hatter 51 >>> Date: 2:59 pm Tue May 05, 1987 I've seen some of his posts of Phreak Klass and they're okay. Althoug like he said, his files are a tad outdated. I never really talked to him personally, so I'm undecided... -Hatter 5/46: Can't say Name: <<< Knight Lightning 2 >>> Date: 5:09 pm Tue May 05, 1987 I don't know anything about his hack knowledge, but I do know that he is very confused about voice filtered loops. :Knight Lightning 6/46: Also.... Name: <<< The Mad Hacker 47 >>> Date: 11:46 pm Tue May 05, 1987 I can't say as I have never seen him on any BBS. Seems okay, although I usually hate anyone that Types in all Caps(Proper Capitalization, Eh TK???).... Seems okay, I guess, but then I really don't know...... -TMH 7/46: Nanuk Name: <<< The Prophet 23 >>> Date: 12:28 am Wed May 06, 1987 "Specialties- locating PBX's and using diverters"? Nay! -TP 8/46: He's ok Name: <<< Control C 8 >>> Date: 9:09 pm Wed May 06, 1987 I think he's ok, I just let him on my system and he seem like he know's what he's talking about when it comes to computer systems.. I say Ok.. 9/46: Who Name: <<< Knight Lightning 2 >>> Date: 12:33 am Thu May 07, 1987 Who did Nanuck say he knew (as references) from the old days that we could check with and who now? :Knight Lightning 10/46: Hmm... Name: <<< Taran King 1 >>> Date: 7:02 am Thu May 07, 1987 He hangs out with his own little clique. His good buddy is Blitziod. He's also friends with Lefty Carlson, Fatal Error 313, Mic Ripoff, Silent Rebel/ Phantom Fighter, and Striker (not the one from the IBM pirate boards I don't think). I don't know how to really get in touch with any of these people, not that I could go by their words anyway...Later -TK 11/46: Vote Name: <<< Computer Wiz Kid 54 >>> Date: 10:24 pm Thu May 07, 1987 Sounds Good, but like someone said before, i hate CAPS......Looks LIKE someone is YELLING AT YOU, but hey if he is as good as he said he was, why not... 12/46: Fatal Error 313 Name: <<< Knight Lightning 2 >>> Date: 11:33 pm Thu May 07, 1987 Not meaning to get crude or vulgar here, but isn't this the FE that is dead? If so, I think you're going to have a bitch of a time getting a hold of him. :Knight Lightning 13/46: FE Name: <<< The Scanner 20 >>> Date: 1:38 am Fri May 08, 1987 Fatal Error has been gone for some time now. He and a good friend of mine kinda disappeared about 2 weeks before I was raided. I havent heard from either one since then. ??? _-The Scanner Well, May as well plug my board while im here..... ----------------------- Scan Line 313-851-0912 ----------------------- Designed for the serious telecommunicationalist.. - yeah sure Newuser pass = OPCODE 14/46: FE 617 Name: <<< Taran King 1 >>> Date: 6:31 am Fri May 08, 1987 The one in 617 who used to run Metropolis is dead...the one in 313 is just dormant. Stupid posts for stupid people by stupid people 15/46: Fatal Error.... Name: <<< The Disk Jockey 13 >>> Date: 6:57 am Fri May 08, 1987 Wasn't he killed in a motorcycle accident? Or is he laying low and thats what he wants people to think? -The Disk Jockey 16/46: Fatal Error Name: <<< Knight Lightning 2 >>> Date: 8:02 am Fri May 08, 1987 Its a good theory, but I believe the incident was real. :Knight Lightning 17/46: Any one else?? Name: <<< Mad Hatter 51 >>> Date: 2:32 pm Fri May 08, 1987 Any in else in the "Phreakdom" die? That seems weird. I get the feeling of a society without death/diseases/etc.. No, for the current Votee.... -Hatter 18/46: Death..... Name: <<< The Disk Jockey 13 >>> Date: 7:28 pm Fri May 08, 1987 Ever hav that you know die? It's always someonwho you know, but never really think about. It's wierd as hell, and it makes you wonder if you are next. Ever wonder what death is like? I guess it can't be imagined.... Ever get really stoned and just sit and try to compare FUCK IT.....I'll stick to new scanning, I don't even know what the hell I am doing....! -The Disk Jockey 19/46: In general Name: <<< Knight Lightning 2 >>> Date: 12:19 am Sat May 09, 1987 And for the record this is on the wrong sub, the idea of death in the phreak world has really been "getting busted" or "retiring." That is the only way we can really think about it in our society, I mean cause phreaks just don't die everday, but they do get busted about that often, so that gives us a more realistic view if we were to look at the phreak zone as a true realm. :Knight Lightning 20/46: FE (again) Name: <<< Phantom Phreaker 46 >>> Date: 2:28 am Sat May 09, 1987 Fatal Error 617 died from a motorcycle accident while riding in his woods. Micro Man (617, was sysop of Newsweek BBS) called me and told me this on July 3, 1986. I guess no one else heard about this for a while, I remember the date because it was right before the fourth of July. FE 617 was into COSMOS and ran Metropolis, as someone said. FE 313 is a vocal phreaker and (as far as I know) doesn't have a modem. 21/46: really Name: <<< Lucifer 666 43 >>> Date: 2:35 am Sun May 10, 1987 KL & Tk gasp! print false info ? gasp! anyways, exactly how much fun can it be to be a diverter expert? 22/46: FE's Name: <<< Control C 8 >>> Date: 11:22 am Sun May 10, 1987 FE 313 is alive and well, I don't think he has a modem but he's in some group with that Nacka of the north (or what ever his name is) randy you should have his number around somewhere.. Control .s oops 23/46: Galactus Name: <<< Doom Prophet 21 >>> Date: 10:57 pm Sun May 10, 1987 I sorry butz I say no to Galactus...I don't think he's good enough to be on MSP (not saying I am good either). Some of the stuff here is not fit for thte irresponsible...I don't believe that he is 21 for some strange reason. Oh well trying not to discriminate but I say definately no. Doomy 24/46: Galactus..... Name: <<< The Disk Jockey 13 >>> Date: 6:43 am Mon May 11, 1987 Doom's right.....fuck 'em. I don't buy for a second that he's 21. -The Disk Jockey 25/46: Add Name: <<< Knight Lightning 2 >>> Date: 6:48 pm Mon May 11, 1987 I myself was unimpressed by his resume and the conversation we (Taran and I) had with Galactus clearly has left a mark with me that he doesn't deserve a place on MSP at this time. :Knight Lightning 26/46: NO Name: <<< Phantom Phreaker 46 >>> Date: 7:24 pm Tue May 12, 1987 My vote on Galactus is NO. Yes, I am conceited as hell, an asshole, etc. I always feel like a jerk when I vote 'NO' because I feel like a segragationist. 27/46: I feel the same. Name: <<< Evil Jay 26 >>> Date: 9:05 am Wed May 13, 1987 Galactacus (whatever the fuck his name is) is a knowledgeable person, but I think he could still go awhile before getting let on. Sigh, he is a Prime person tho (hell, practically inspired me to write a Prime file when I read that pathetic thing from way back). Still, its no. -The Big J 28/46: Guess its No, yes? Name: <<< Knight Lightning 2 >>> Date: 5:44 pm Wed May 13, 1987 Looks like there has been an overwhelming vote of dissapproval of Galactus becoming a member here. Whats the woid Taran? :Knight Lightning 29/46: theres no way Name: <<< Lex Luthor 36 >>> Date: 10:46 am Fri May 15, 1987 There is no way Galactus "knows very well" all those OS's I would say 3 operating systems is the maximum for most hackers as far as a complete (its never really complete) knowledge of OS's is concerned. Hell I know VMS, UNIX, and VM/CMS very well but thats it. The rest I know enough to get around in. OS's are like languages, people know a few words in spanish or french but don't know how to speak fluently in those languages, but they still tell people they can. That is what hackers do. I find this mainly on their applications. Most hackers specialize in one operating system. Sometimes they move on and specialize in others, sometimes they stick to the one they like. More ramblings from Lex 30/46: ummmmm. Name: <<< Lucifer 666 43 >>> Date: 2:11 am Sun May 17, 1987 but what if he unleashes with full force! hmmmm. isnt this nice. our own little democracy...sort of.. ourvote = 3% randy's = 97% notice.... the above 31/46: Galac. Name: <<< The Sensei 18 >>> Date: 6:37 pm Thu May 21, 1987 Galac., doesn't sound like a honest to goodness hacker. He probably calls us his local UNIX system and uses defaults to hack it out. Sounding sarcastic, but you know how it is. 1987 for users is really lousy. What are the specifications for electing a new person to the system. I have someone of interest. Ts 32/46: Users... Name: <<< Taran King 1 >>> Date: 7:07 pm Thu May 21, 1987 The user must be experienced in some manner or have a good general knowledge of telecommunications. If you wish for someone to get access here, have them make out an application for themselves, get it from them, and then upload it to the D: drive on the AE and I'll put it up as a message. We shall wait until Galactus shows himself more worthy of being on the board. Now we come to the problem with Solid State. He was kicked off not too long ago but he wants back on (I guess). One way or another, he said he'd be writing up "his side" of the story so at least we'll all get to hear what he has to say for himself. Life is a bitch... -TK 33/46: well... Name: <<< Sir Francis Drake 56 >>> Date: 7:01 pm Fri May 22, 1987 just to get my remarks in early...Iv talked to State & Stan about it and I think State should be let back on. He was kicked off because he SUPPOSEDLY read msgs to/gave his pswd to Stanly. Now this info mainly came from Stan who would claim that he used states password "all the time". Now since, stan is such a notorious liar the whole thing is obviously questionable. Now another main complaint (from what ive gathered talking to KL) is that State would not tell TK/KL how Stan gets on MSP even though State apparently knows. This may sound sorta lame, but if State starts telling on stan he wont be trusted, and it would be lame of him. So it would seem that as long as State does not further help stand (which is EXTRENELY unlikely even if he ever did) Stan he should be let back on as he was/will be a "valuable user". so there. sfd 34/46: Wrong... Name: <<< Taran King 1 >>> Date: 7:10 pm Fri May 22, 1987 I don't want to start a debate because Craig's gonna be here real soon preaching about everything but I'd just like to have it stated that I've got a neutral 3rd party that was on a conversation between Stan and Nate where Nate was reading posts from MSP, which I had previously told him was grounds for deletion from MSP if he read them to Stan. Thank you and here's my address -TK 35/46: Preech! Name: <<< Knight Lightning 2 >>> Date: 11:58 pm Sat May 23, 1987 This is true. In OQ's own word's "Nate is my partner in crime." Now perhaps you may call OQ a liar or say he is bluffing, but their friendship exists for better or for worse. Now both OQ and SS claim to have at least 3 or more accounts on here anyway and Stan would like his own account to post with as well (yeah yeah, why'd you even mention it KL, it'll never happen). As good a hacker that State is, I am not convinced that he should be trusted in any aspect towards the system especially since he has aided succesful attempts to breech its security. I mean, thats just the way it is, nothing seems to ever change, etc. One other thing to mention, its not like we "owe" anyone an account and although I suppose I have a lot of pull, Taran King will have the final say. :Knight Lightning 36/46: Solid S. Name: <<< The Sensei 18 >>> Date: 7:25 am Sun May 24, 1987 I don't know Solid too good....just that he's one a specific system 24hrs a day, it seems. I think he's just a modem kid out for a fun ride. Let'em cool for a year. You can't blame a guy for hacking ANY system though. I'm split. Ts 37/46: s. state Name: <<< The Leftist 71 >>> Date: 4:38 pm Mon May 25, 1987 Solid State in my opinion is a dick, and shouldnt be let on any system, much less this one.. 38/46: Nate Name: <<< The Executioner 19 >>> Date: 9:50 pm Tue May 26, 1987 Anyone ever look up the word "Nate" in the dictionary??? It means... "VArious forms of semi-aquatic salamanders" OOOOPS! That's Newt, I mean Lock Lifter.....eeeek!! Nate - The skin that stretches from the opening of an anal cavity to the base of the penis. Enough said.... 39/46: Nates Name: <<< Mad Hatter 51 >>> Date: 10:45 pm Sat May 30, 1987 Nates - (N) The buttocks from Webster's 20,000 word dictionary. Where did you get your definition? 40/46: FRED FROM RCMAC Name: <<< Icarus 15 >>> Date: 3:29 am Sun May 31, 1987 This is the handle of someone who claims he is in LOD. Well, Lex, is he? 41/46: HAhaahahahahaha Name: <<< Control C 8 >>> Date: 10:04 am Sun May 31, 1987 Who told you that?? Fred From RCmac hahahahah!!! While I'm here anybody know about the new switching system called ADDR ESS? I here it's mor advanced then DMS-300. GEORGE FROM MMOC LOD/H 42/46: Fred from Rcmac Name: <<< The Executioner 19 >>> Date: 4:17 pm Sun May 31, 1987 I saw him on Digital Logic's BBS. He didnt show much of anything... 43/46: Fred from Rc-Mac Name: <<< Control C 8 >>> Date: 9:47 pm Sun May 31, 1987 Fred is Phiber Optic who is Public Enemy 1 who is Ilduce (the biggest luzer in the world).. He disn't know shit about shit! 44/46: Phiber Optic..... Name: <<< The Disk Jockey 13 >>> Date: 12:55 am Mon Jun 01, 1987 .....claimed on Atlantis that he can get you the REMOB number for your local CO by simpley leaving him your NPA+PRE....he also says that there is a "REMOB OR FORTELL" for EVERY CO. -The Disk Jockey 45/46: Well.... Name: <<< The Executioner 19 >>> Date: 8:11 am Mon Jun 01, 1987 Well, we can ALL see that Fred is just a mental powehouse chock full to the Downloaded From P-80 International Information Systems 304-744-2253 12yrs+