Date: Fri, Mar 12, 1993 (16:11) From: Gail Williams Subject: File 6--Computer Freedom and Privacy III Conf. (Report 6) Barlow was a knockout yesterday. Had people cheering, fuming, and roaring with laughter, and fuming. (Ironically enough, I took pretty detailed notes on judic's powerbook, and left them at the hotel which is for the most part a splendid place, but which charges a nightmarish pile of surcharges for phone access). He attributed the desire for privacy to the rise of the suburbs, and said small town and city people don't have any such privacy. A transcript would be fun... I was struck by the choices he made in the way he used the word "we", and it was easy to tell some clearly felt he was not speaking for them. He was doing Patriarch of the clan, not Seer, and 'Dad' got some folks pretty riled. Judi's 'gender' panel this morning was a good surface-scratcher. One of the panelists seemed to me to be under-informed, making some general and sloppy statements inferring the need for censorship. (I wish she'd really though it out, it would have been interesting to hear a smart exploration of the 'hate language' model, but she really just wasn't far into exploring the concept of controls and norms online. The lines at the speaker's mic filled up with people who wanted to speak out in favor of the alt.sex newsgroup. Brenda Laurel and Mike Godwin were both quite articulate on this point. The speaker, and forgive me my literature is not by my side and I can't remember her name, backed down, but everyone wanted to have at her. My sense is that this kind of consciousness raising is exactly the process we all need. Librarians and artists are the ones who've walked this path... government subsidy of alt.sex.bondage and NEA funding of Mapplethorpe and Serrano are very closely related types of issues, for example. And several people made the obvious metaphoric point that a *place* where you go to talk about whatever can be allowed to be offensive, the offended can go , and ask that such speech not be accepted while in . Anyway, it's fun to hear various people talk it through, keeping honing and allowing others to challenge their arguments! Cliff Stoll was a bundle of energy at lunch today, bouncing all around the room, talking about the concept of being a 'public person' online, and all kinds of other good stuff he had written as notes in ink on his hand, and borrowing somebody's camera to photograph him mid-talk, and playing at a fine frenzied pace through his lovely rant about life and learning and community. His verbal and physical process while giving a speech is like an anthem to creativity and eccentricity, he really makes me feel good about myself. Downloaded From P-80 International Information Systems 304-744-2253