------------------------------ Subject: Another experience with the SS From: Anonymous, somewhere in Texas Date: Tue, 28 Aug 90 21:14:19 CDT ******************************************************************** *** CuD #2.01: File 5 of 6: Another Experience with the SS *** ******************************************************************** ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ {The moderators deleted the identity of the following article's author because of legitimate concerns for his welfare. He is considered by those familiar with his situation to be another victim of recent SS activity, and the need to conceal his identity further illustrates the chilling effect on freedom of speech that the SS has created--moderators.} +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I just remembered a Texas tie-in to the LOD name. I found this in Mike Cochran's book "And deliver us from evil," from Texas Monthly Press. In the concluding essay, he wrote, And, if there was a roll call for bizarre Texas crime, it surely would include: [ (accounts of mayhem removed) -- The Legion of Doom, an up-scale group of student vigilantes who used dead cats, car bombs, and other forms of intimidation to shape up the riffraff at Fort Worth's Paschal High. Their misguided crusade got them in a heap of trouble, but they all escaped jail. Speaking of reading... I re-read CUD 1.18 today. There are parts of John R. Simpson's response to Representative Don Edwards' FOI inquiry that, ahem, do not compute. Like this: "We do not keep records of the bulletin boards which we have monitored but we can provide information concerning a particular board if we are given the name of the board." Well, maybe they'd go check the board out again. But, as "records of the bulletin boards which we have monitored" may include communications program dialing directories and call logs, as well as telephone records of outgoing calls, I know that what Simpson has said isn't true. Let's see what's on those disks and phone bills, Uncle Sam! But the real corker is: "No, the U.S. Secret Service has not created a computer bulletin board nor a network which was offered to members of the public. We have created an undercover bulletin board which was offered to a select number of individuals who had demonstrated an interest in conducting criminal activities. This was done with the guidance of the U.S. Attorney's Office and was consistent with the Electronic Communications Privacy Act." When I was interviewed by the Secret Service in early 1990, SS Agent Timothy Foley discussed the UNIX system known as "attctc", formerly called "killer." Agent Foley discussed the status of jolnet and attctc, claiming that "I own jolnet" and "I own attctc." He also asked me why I thought AT&T would fund attctc. His answer to his own question was that attctc existed "for the "for the purpose of monitoring the hacker community." When it was still running, attctc was once referred to as "the largest mail hub in the Southwest." Did AT&T provide Secret Service agents with access to attctc? I had this view of attctc as a kink in the image of AT&T as an all-devouring monopoly, and approved of it as good for the image of AT&T. But if it was a listening post, well, I take it all back. It was >very< available to the public. What role did Uncle Sam and the Secret Service have in the management, funding and operation of attctc? ******************************************************************** >> END OF THIS FILE << *************************************************************************** Downloaded From P-80 International Information Systems 304-744-2253 12yrs+