==Phrack Inc.== Volume Two, Issue 23, File 3 of 12 <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> <> <> Subdivisions <> <> ~~~~~~~~~~~~ <> <> Part Three Of The Vicious Circle Trilogy <> <> <> <> A Study On The Occurrence Of Groups Within The Community <> <> <> <> Presented by Knight Lightning <> <> August 8, 1988 <> <> <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> A Rose By Any Other Name... Would Smell As Sweet =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The Administration \ Advanced Telecommunications, Inc./ATI ALIAS \ American Tone Travelers \ Anarchy Inc. \ Apple Mafia The Association \ Atlantic Pirates Guild/APG \ Bad Ass Mother Fuckers/BAMF Bellcore \ Bell Shock Force/BSF \ Black Bag \ Camorra \ C&M Productions Catholics Anonymous \ Chaos Computer Club \ Chief Executive Officers/CEO Circle Of Death \ Circle Of Deneb \ Club X \ Coalition of Hi-Tech Pirates/CHP Coast-To-Coast \ Corrupt Computing \ Cult Of The Dead Cow/-cDc- Custom Retaliations \ Damage Inc. \ D&B Communications \ The Dange Gang Dec Hunters \ Digital Gang/DG \ DPAK \ Eastern Alliance The Elite Hackers Guild \ Elite Phreakers and Hackers Club The Elite Society Of America \ EPG \ Executives Of Crime \ Extasyy (Elite) Fargo 4A \ Farmers Of Doom/FOD \ The Federation \ Feds R Us \ First Class Five O \ Five Star \ Force Hackers \ The 414s \ Hack-A-Trip Hackers Of America/HOA \ High Mountain Hackers \ High Society \ The Hitchhikers IBM Syndicate \ The Ice Pirates Imperial Warlords \ Inner Circle Inner Circle II \ Insanity Inc. International Computer Underground Bandits/ICUB \ Justice League of America/JLA Kaos Inc. \ Knights Of Shadow/KOS \ Knights Of The Round Table/KOTRT League Of Adepts/LOA \ Legion Of Doom/LOD \ Legion Of Hackers/LOH Lords Of Chaos \ Lunitic Labs, Unlimited \ Master Hackers \ MAD! The Marauders \ MD/PhD \ Metal Communications, Inc./MCI MetalliBashers, Inc./MBI \ Metro Communications \ Midwest Pirates Guild/MPG NASA Elite \ The NATO Association \ Neon Knights \ Nihilist Order Order Of The Rose \ OSS \ Pacific Pirates Guild/PPG \ Phantom Access Associates PHido PHreaks \ Phlash \ PhoneLine Phantoms/PLP Phone Phreakers Of America/PPOA \ Phortune 500/P500 Phreak Hack Delinquents \ Phreak Hack Destroyers Phreakers, Hackers, And Laundromat Employees Gang/PHALSE Gang Phreaks Against Geeks/PAG \ Phreaks Against Phreaks Against Geeks/PAP Phreaks and Hackers of America \ Phreaks Anonymous World Wide/PAWW Project Genesis TF \ Roscoe Gang \ SABRE \ Secret Circle of Pirates/SCP Secret Service \ 707 Club \ Shadow Brotherhood \ Sharp Inc. \ 65C02 Elite Spectral Force \ Star League \ Stowaways \ Strata-Crackers \ The Phrim Team Hackers '86 \ Team Hackers '87 \ TeleComputist Newsletter Staff Tribunal Of Knowledge/TOK \ Triple Entente \ Turn Over And Die Syndrome/TOADS 300 Club \ 1200 Club \ 2300 Club \ 2600 Club \ 2601 Club \ 2AF \ Ware Brigade The Warelords \ WASP \ The United Soft WareZ Force/TuSwF United Technical Underground/UTU - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Its literally unbelievable just how many different groups and organizations there are or have been in the phreak/hack/pirate community. The list of 130 groups displayed above is probably still just a fraction of the actual amount of groups that there have been, but those are the only ones I am aware of at this time. In the past John Maxfield has estimated that there are about 50,000 hackers/phreaks/pirates operating in the United States today. That figure has multiplied to to a point where it probably comes close to 500,000. Believe it or not, almost everyone has been a member of one of the above groups (or perhaps a group not mentioned) at one time or another. Today's telecom security consultants and law enforcement agencies know this too and that is how group affiliations can be turned against us. What does being in a group mean? In the modem community being in a group is supposed to mean that the people in the group work on projects together and trade specific information that people outside of the group are not allowed to access and by the same token, have no way to get it. However, obviously the people in the group all feel that the other people with whom they are sharing information, can be trusted and are worthy of associating with them to begin with. So when you stop and think about it, if there was no group, the people in question would still be trading information and would still trust each other because they would not have formed the group unless this criteria was met in the first place. So in truth, being in a group really means nothing on the basis previously mentioned. You see in the modem community, being in a group really is more like a power trip or a "security blanket" for people who feel that they need to let people know that they associate with a specific clique in the hopes that the popularity of some of the other members will lend popularity to themselves. Many groups form in such a way that they try to make it look otherwise and thus begins the real problem. Some groups are formed by a person who tries to get a lot of guys together that he feels knows a lot or seems to post a lot of good information - Bad Move; If you are going to form a group at all, stick with people who you know can be trusted (can you really ever "know" who can be trusted?) and then out of those people form your group or choose who you feel should be in it. Anyway, to prove thn to gather specific data for giving to group members, and this includes handing out their own names and phone numbers with other members of the group. They feel a false loyalty and psychologically create such utter faith in all the members that the faith is ultimately blind and based on hopes and aspirations of greatness. What is the best way for a security agent or informant to blend in with the modem community? Join as many groups as possible, start gathering data on the members, and spread your handle throughout the community to become "well known." Example: Taken From Phrack World News Issue XV; [This article has been edited for this presentation. -KL] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mad Hatter; Informant? July 31, 1987 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We at Phrack Inc. have uncovered a significant amount of information that has led us to the belief that Mad Hatter is an informant for some law enforcement organization. When Taran King, Cheap Shades, Forest Ranger, and Knight Lightning arrived at Control C's in Chicago, Illinois, Mad Hatter had already searched the place and had found some papers that could only have done ^C harm. We destroyed this information and thought everything was ok. However, as it turns out, we searched Mad Hatter's bags and found a duplicate set of this information and the general hypothesis was they he intended to leave it behind as incriminating evidence. Mad Hatter had also brought down several disks for the purpose of copying Phantasie Realm. Please note; PR was an IBM program and MH has an apple. Control C told us that when he went to pick Mad Hatter up at the bus terminal, he watched the bus pull in and saw everyone who disembarked. Suddenly Mad Hatter was there, but not from the bus he was supposed to have come in on. In addition to this, he had baking soda wrapped in a five dollar bill that he tried to pass off as cocaine. Perhaps to make us think he was cool or something. Mad Hatter constantly tried to get left behind at ^C's apartment for unknown reasons. He also was seen at a neighbor's apartment making unauthorized calls into the city of Chicago. When asked who he called, his reply was "Don't worry about it." Mad Hatter had absolutely no money with him during PartyCon (and incidentally he ate everything in ^C's refrigerator) and yet he insisted that although he had taken the bus down and had return trip tickets for the bus, that he would fly back home. How was this going to be achieved? He had no money and even if he could get a refund for the bus tickets, he would still be over $200 short. When asked how he was going to do this, his reply was "Don't worry about it." On Saturday night while on the way to the Hard Rock Cafe, Mad Hatter asked Control C for the location of his computer system and other items 4 times. This is information that Hatter did not need to know, but perhaps a SS agent or someone could use very nicely. When Phrack Inc. discovered that Dan Td made the news public, several people were criticizing him on Free World II Private. Mad Hatter on the other hand, stood up for Noah and said that he was still his friend despite what had happened. Then later when he realized that people were questioning his legitimacy, his original posts were deleted and he started saying how much he wanted to kill Dan The Operator and that he hated him. Mad Hatter already has admitted to knowing that Dan The Operator was an FBI informant prior to SummerCon '87. He says the reason he didn't tell anyone is because he assumed we already knew. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - When Mad Hatter first entered the phreak/hack world, he joined; Phreaks Anonymous World Wide (PAWW), MetalliBashers, Inc (MBI), Order of The Rose, and Cult of The Dead Cow (-cDc-). If you were a security agent or a loser hacker turned informant and you wanted to mix in with the phreak/hack community, wouldn't you try to join as many groups as possible to spread your name? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Phreaks Anonymous World Wide, MetalliBashers, Inc., Order of The Rose, and Cult of The Dead Cow, not exactly the toughest groups to join and once there is one security person in the group, he is bound to vouch for others, etc. So while he spreads his name as an elite modem user throughout the community, he is busy gathering information on group members who are foolish enough to trust him. Its not bad enough that some groups are easy enough to infiltrate as it is, but does anyone remember this? Taken From Phrack World News Issue XI; - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Phortune 500: Phreakdom's Newest Organization February 16, 1987 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For those of you who are in the least bit interested, Phortune 500 is a group of telecommunication hobbyists who's goal is to spread information as well as further their own knowledge in the world of telecommunications. This new group was formed by: Brew Associates / Handsomest One / Lord Lawless / The Renegade Chemist Quinton J. Miranda / Striker / The Mad Hacker / The Spiker These eight members are also known as Board Of Directors (BOD). They don't claim to be *Elite* in the sense that they are they world's greatest hacker, but they ARE somewhat picky about their members. They prefer someone who knows a bit about everything and has talents exclusive to him/herself. One of the projects that Phortune 500 has completed is an individual password AE type system. It's called TransPhor. It was written and created by Brew Associates. It has been Beta tested on The Undergraduate Lounge (Sysoped by Quinton J. Miranda). It is due to be released to the public throughout the next few months. Phortune 500 has been in operation for about 4 months, and has released two newsletters of the is quite like the "People" of contempory magazines. While some magazines cover the deep technical aspects of the world in which we communicate, their newsletter tries to cover the lighter side while throwing in information that they feel is "of technical nature." The third issue is due to be released by the end of this month. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - *>=-> The Phortune 500 Membership Questionnaire <-=<* Note: The following information is of a totally confidential nature. The reason you may find this so lengthy and in depth is for our knowledge of you. We, with Phortune 500, feel as though we should know prospective members well before we allow them into our organization. Pending the answers you supply us, you will be admitted to Phortune 500 as a charter member. Please answer the following completely... ............................................................................... Handle : First Name : Voice Phone Number : Data Phone Number : City & State : Age : Occupation (If Applicable) : Place of Employment (Optional) : Work Phone Number (Optional) : Computer Type : Modem Type : Interests : Areas Of Expertise : References (No More Than Three) : Major Accomplishments (If Any) : ............................................................................... Answer In 50 Words Or Less; ^*^ What Is Phortune 500 in Your Opinion? ^*^ Why Do You Want To Be Involved With Phortune 500? ^*^ How Can You Contribute to Phortune 500? ............................................................................... Please answer each question to the best of your ability and then return to any Phortune 500 Board of Directors Member Or a Phortune 500 BBS: The Private Connection (Limited Membership) 219-322-7266 The Undergraduate AE (Private Files Only) 602-990-1573 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - An actual application form for joining a group. Perhaps the concept was a good one, perhaps not, but from a standpoint of publicity and security, this was a complete and utter catastrophe. Basically we are all here to learn in one way or another. Groups and clubs in our community only seem to segregate it and at a time when everyone should be pulling together, this is not such a good idea. Privacy and security are important factors that motivate these sects within the society, but ultimately are the final consequences worth the trouble of creating a group? If groups had not been created, there would not be as much attention on the phreak/hack community as there is right now. When group names start spreading, it starts the law enforcement agencies into a panic that its big time organized crime. This allows them to justify more time and money criminals and usually they go after the big names; the people in the most "elite" groups. Now before you, a member of a group, start criticizing this file, please understand, I am not referring to any particular groups here, just groups in general. Any and all comments made about MBI, -cDc-, PAWW, OOTR, and P500 should not be taken personally and were used only as examples of how groups can be potential security problems. There are some groups that are worthwhile organizations and its obvious because that have existed through the years and been productive. However, the only way to keep this community alive is for everyone to work together to protect and learn from each other. :Knight Lightning "The Future Is Now" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= EOF Downloaded From P-80 International Information Systems 304-744-2253 12yrs+