Date: Sun, 4 Aug 91 23:26:21 cdt From: sjackson@TIC.COM(Steve Jackson) Subject: Reply to Gene Spafford I was sorry to see Gene Spafford's comments in CuD 3.24. Can anything be more divisive, more likely to widen the gulf between the talented outlaw and the rest of the electronic community, than to say that the ex-cracker will NEVER be allowed to use his skills honestly? What happened to "paying your debt" and re-entering society? Never mind that some of these people have never been charged with any crime, let alone convicted! Spafford says that "to prefer confessed crackers over honorable professionals is quite an insult." It can't possibly be an insult unless the so-called professionals have equal or better skills. And perhaps they don't! Given their backgrounds, there's every reason to think that Comsec can provide valuable advice to those who will listen. If not, they'll soon vanish from the marketplace. But Dr. Spafford would deny them the chance to compete. He thinks that Comsec's attempt to use their skills honestly is an "insult," regardless of how great those skills might be, and anyone utilizing them is a traitor to the legitimate establishment. Spafford's argument can just as easily embrace the proposition that NO ex-criminal should ever be hired for ANY job. To his credit, he expressly denies that he'd go that far. But it follows from his logic. Why not just brand their foreheads with a big red H, and cut off their thumbs so they can't type? By contrast, Gail Thackeray, who has talked on both sides of the Evil Hacker issue, now takes a stand in the clearest possible way. I applaud her part in the Majette sentencing. She didn't ask for revenge; she didn't try to "make an example"; she didn't exaggerate Majette's exploits and grab press. She calmly pointed out that he wasn't dangerous and wasn't the criminal type outside of this particular behavior, and asked for a rehabilitative sentence. And the judge agreed with her. Thanks, Gail. I hope your peers notice, too. ------------------------------