From: billc@Apple.COM (Bill Cockayne) Subject: PHIL: Virtual Worlds discussion Date: 9 Sep 92 07:55:24 GMT Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA Bob made some very interesting comments as to why the is a sci. newsgroup as opposed to a .comp group. The idea that all virtual worlds must stem from computers is a very narrow view, but is predominant in this newsgroup. As I have just finished reading "Virtual Reality" by Howard Reignhold (forgive my lateness in reading this book...too much Alvin Toffler lately). He hops all around the VR map discussin projects, people, and history associated with different areas. The most interesting part concerned a Sensorama system that was built a number of years ago (all facts elude me, and the book is at home). The system was a very early VR system based on movies and used sound, pictures, wind, smell, and motion to immerse the user in another reality. It is obvious that this is a VR application. Also, many people have related to me the idea that drugs allow the user to enter another world. This has some interesting reprecussions since many cutting edge companies are now starting drug-testing. It would be a shame if the people that have the best ideas for other worlds were to be removed from the industry since they used drugs, which probably started them down the path in the first place. (PS - This is not an add for drug use. Personally don't use them and am against their use.) Finally, there is the simple concept of a virtual world being invoked merely by the suspension of disbelief by the user. Having attended many a play and movie I feel that there is a virtual world quality exhibited at these events and that a large amount of study is being neglected by not looking at how the public is affected by these already dominant worlds. (I won't even start on the imaginary worlds that TV creates) :) Virtual World discussions include people from all areas of industry and academia not just computer hackers. Though much of the discussion seems at times to be dominated by the hackers the other fields often pop up when discussions interfaces, paradigms, and already existing models of human behaviour. bill cockayne Apple Computer, Inc. billc@apple.com DISCLAIMER: I speak only for myself.