From: Jonathan Leech Subject: Re: Proposal to create a new newsgroup, sci.virtual-worlds.homebrew Date: Fri, 18 Oct 91 13:34:17 -0400 In article <1991Oct17.072215.22311@milton.u.washington.edu> you write: > One point: There has been a misperception among some list'ers that sci.v-w > is heavily filtered and that this necessitated the mailing list. Uh-uh. > Not so. Only the worst flames get shunted. The mailing list was set up by > very enthusiastic folks who wanted to get down and concentrate on PowerGlove > issues, which they felt would go more easily in a mailing list. The moderation could stand to be more agressive, starting with the moderators. Your political biases show through clearly and incite people into irrelevant digressions. Take for example this article: From: pfraterdeus@igc.org (Peter Fraterdeus) Subject: Virtual war and news media Date: 16 Oct 91 17:33:25 GMT Organization: HIT Lab, Seattle WA. >Good guys/bad guys: I believe that the term is much >nicer say than some of the things people used to say >circa 1970. In terms of the liberation of Kuwait, >it was quite appropriate. > mz Only in the minds of those who bought the "virtual reality" shoved down our collective throats. Let's not get into it here, ok. This topic has nothing whatsoever to do with VR and further postings on it should be canned. Further, far too many discussions unrelated to the nominal topic of the newsgroup crop up, such as the current one on low-end VR (which is actually about fast rendering algorithms). That should be redirected to comp.graphics or email. > Okay, if you think there is a point in creating a new newsgroup, let us > know; and if you think there is a point in retaining a single newsgroup, > let us know. I think you should take this over to news.groups and follow the standard group creation process. -- Jon Leech (leech@cs.unc.edu) __@/ "We are Buddhists. We believe in God. We also believe in Hewlett-Packard" - Kenichi Horie [MODERATOR'S NOTE: Jon makes some telling points. ("Biases" that are overtly addressed, however, and held out for public comment, are hardly biases in the conventional sense. Certainly, both sides of the lexicon of war have been presented...and this is relevant, as we come to typify the "beings" and "agents" who occupy the virtual world. Will this dicho- tomy follow us into the Fantasy Kingdom?) If a new newsgroup is formed, it should follow the news.group procedure. We just brought the topic up here to ensure a kinder, gentler transition, if there is one. -- Bob Jacobson]