From: eliot@phoenix.princeton.edu (Eliot Handelman) Subject: Re: Musical Virtual Worlds Date: 15 Nov 90 07:08:17 GMT In article <1990Nov13.213038.27046@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> garry@cs-sun-fsc.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Garry Beirne) writes: ;In short, I think that the music world has a mature notion of 'virtual ;worlds' and is at the forefront of 'interactivity'. My current line of work involves what I'm calling an "auditory cyberspace." It's based around some notions of consciousness, especially of temporal integration & the possibilities of transmitting cognitive structure, as outlined in my PhD thesis "music as secondary consciousness: an implementation," which ought to be on the shelf within a few months. The medium is a high intensity broth and involves something comparable to echolocation, insuinuating objects of arbitrary complexity with no "real- world" correlate. The listener/participant has no "observational" status. While I'm here, some quick positions: The concept that we're "visually oriented" is shallow and, I think, probably incorrect: consult any textbook of auditory disorders (Sacks has come out with one called "Hearing voices.") Visual orientations are, to me, essentially distance-preserving modalites of selfhood which express an unwillingness to jeopardize one's detachment from the world -- a detachment which usenet, a visual medium, promotes, hence its peculiar psychology. Not to undermine seeing, of course: but the blind do have it easier than the deaf. The deaf, unless regimented into an appropriate educational proghram early on, may have a highly underdeveloped sense of time and of selfhood. The "musical" perspective espoused by most recent musical cognitivism is based on some unfortunate misunderstandings of musical history: especially problematic is the notion of musical generative grammars. There is no such thing, in my view; worse, I think it is detrimental any sort of thinking that goes on around music to insist on the ideas od a "semantics," be they emotive, significative, or pseudo linguistic. Habituation entails perceptual automatization, as already James pointed out. The reliance of cognitivism on previous experience is at most a pedagogical blunder, not an insight into how music "works." I am looking at things that force involvement and map out experience, not things that are, from an intercationist stance, already dead. eliot handelman princeton u., music