Hi Everyone! An important game was played on IGS on Sunday afternoon; it was the 1993 USA Youth Championship Tournament final match between John Lee from Chicago and James Chien from San Francisco. The winner will represent the US to play in the World Youth Championship Tournament held in August in Ottawa, Canada. At the end, John Lee (played as "jjsL" on that afternoon) defeated James Chien (as "liubei") and thus became the Youth Champion of USA in 1993. Congratulations John! I am not authorized to show this game and announce the above news; instead, I do it volunteerly as an IGSer. :-) "Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given." So thanks Tim! :-) When the game started, almost no one on IGS noticed it, since there was supposedly a "bigger" game going on. But an IGSer "zhuge" saw this "liubei" and became very interested (Consult your Chinese friends to find out the relationship between the *real* Zhuge and *real* Liu Bei :-). Zhuge's subsequent conversation with "tweet" ended up with a surprise discovery, that this game between jjsL and liubei was a special tournament match. Moments later, tweet revealed the arrival of Jiang Joju 9p on IGS. Only then people started to gather to watch and kibitz in this game. Still, at the time, people were unware of the importance of the game, and all they knew was that a professional 9p was watching this game. As a result, the game was another "normal" game on IGS, judging from the kibitzes -- some comments on the game, and some irrelevant chatting (but they're always fun, aren't they :-). However, the game records does include a couple of comments from Jiang 9p, and one of the strongest US amateur players, Jing Yang, ("jy23" on IGS), actually made his "kibitzing debut" in the game. :-) Right after the game, tweet announced the result and that winner was to represent US in the World Youth Championships. The two players then actually started to replay the game, adding their comments to the kibitzing. Unfortunately, near the end, James Chien felt tired and did not want to continue the replay (understandable), and they adjourned the game. And they left. But wait! The replay version wouldn't be available unless they *finished* (not leaving it adjourned) the game, right? What a pity. I happened watched most of the replay and barely remembered a few comments by lyu 7d. I editted the game record to add those comments in. And here is the game record. Enjoy. Kind regards, Jim Z Yu P.S. I am quite confident that I had the correct information. If there are any mistakes, however, please correct me. Thanks. P.P.S. Also, my goal of this post it to tell the story rather than the game itself. It *was* the final, but it didn't necessarily represent the highest level of US youth. :-) As far as I understand, B didn't play too well in the game. Congratulations to John Lee once more, and good luck in the World Youth Championship Tournament! ( ; GaMe[1] VieW[] SiZe[19] PlayerBlack[liubei] BlackRank[5d ] PlayerWhite[jjsL] WhiteRank[NR ] GameName[\(IGS\) jjsL\(W\) vs liubei] EVent[A game played on the Internet Go Server] DaTe[1993-05-16] PlaCe[IGS: 128.32.201.46 6969] REsult[W+Resign] GameComment[\( Copyright 1993 Tim L. Casey Permission to reproduce this game is given, provided proper credit is given. No warrantee, implied or explicit, is understood. Use of this game is an understanding of the Copyright.] USer[Brought to you by the IGS program] KoMi[5.5] Comment[1993 USA Youth Championship Final Match White: John Lee, Chicago Black: James Chien, S.F. Place: Internet Go Server Date : May 16, 1993 Weather: Who cares? :-\)] ; Black[dd] ; White[pp] ; Black[cp] ; White[pc] ; Black[pe] ; White[ep] ; Black[gq] ; White[fo] ; Black[go] ; White[gn] ; Black[gp] ; White[fm] ; Black[eq] ; White[qg] ; Black[qc] ; White[qd] ; Black[pd] ; White[qe] ; Black[qf] ; White[rf] ; Black[pf] ; White[oc] ; Black[rg] ; White[re] ; Black[qh] ; White[rc] ; Comment[ lyu 7d* : B should Q13 to capture.] Black[qn] ; Comment[ lyu 7d* : the biggest point is at upper left.] White[np] ; Comment[ sweat 7d* : L3 is weird. lyu 7d* : L3 is too narrow, over-concentrated.] Black[kq] ; White[qo] ; Black[pn] ; Comment[ lyu 7d* : Q9 overplay.] White[pk] ; Black[oi] ; White[nk] ; Black[nn] ; White[lp] ; Black[kp] ; White[lo] ; Black[ol] ; White[ok] ; Black[lm] ; White[lk] ; Black[jm] ; White[mm] ; Black[ml] ; White[pi] ; Black[ph] ; White[mn] ; Black[nl] ; White[ll] ; Black[mk] ; White[mj] ; Black[lj] ; White[km] ; Black[nj] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : liubei!! he was my boss 1800 years ago :-\) zhuge NR : hi jujo ;-\)] White[mi] ; Black[qi] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : sure, liubei's game ought to be important :-\)] White[pl] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : tweet's shout is much more powerful.] Black[on] ; White[rm] ; Black[rn] ; Comment[ tweet NR : roc is using jy23's account zhuge NR : huh? zhuge NR : is roc at jy23's place?] White[rk] ; Comment[ tweet NR : yes] Black[rp] ; White[ro] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : i see.] Black[so] ; Comment[ jjs 4d : hi, wahts up here?? tweet NR : big game jjs zhuge NR : jjs watching jjsL. jjs 4d : wow, good tweet NR : roc = jiang 9p zhuge NR : and zhuge watching liubei :-\) jjs 4d : roc?] White[qq] ; Black[rj] ; Comment[ jjs 4d : who is my Left?] White[nm] ; Black[om] ; Comment[ jansteen 4d*: Are we allowed to ask questions tweet? zhuge NR : so they're in Ohio, tweet? zhuge NR : no, jan. tweet NR : yes zhuge tweet NR : i guess so jan zhuge NR : although you've asked one too many :-\) jjs 4d : gs is in Ohio too? jansteen 4d*: Ooops :-\) zhuge NR : is this the battle of the game? so early. jjs 4d : wow, black dead, haha] White[sm] ; Comment[ bhuang 2d : Goed dag, jansteen jansteen 4d*: How do you evaluate the joseki in the upper-right Mr. Jiang? jansteen 4d*: Hello bhuang :-\) jjs 4d : oh, i c, J 9p is here zhuge NR : but he might not know how to kibitz yet... jansteen 4d*: Does blacks thickness equal white's territory? bhuang 2d : alles goed met jou? jjs 4d : go agead tell him, zhuge tweet NR : somebody please help roc to understand kitibz tweet NR : roc is trying to make kibitzes. jjs 4d : is he in Berkeley? tweet NR : *roc*: we did not see the whole sequence, but in terms of shape, white is better tweet NR : *roc*: r11 was not good. zhuge NR : no, he is in Ohio zhuge NR : *roc*: tweet is better than zhuge. zhuge NR : sorry i made that up. :-\)] Black[sn] ; Comment[ qzheng 3d : s3?] White[qm] ; Comment[ jjs 4d : y so quiet? qzheng 3d : a pro is here jjs 4d : i got a fan you give us, jan, thank u.] Black[ni] ; Comment[ tweet NR : jansteen gave me small shoes that do not fit. :-\) jjs 4d : oh, yeah, give me too. haha jansteen 4d*: Sorry tweet, we didn't knew your size :-\) zhuge NR : hahahha.. jjs 4d : i put them in my car tweet NR : *roc*: help. How can we see the whole sequence. aladdin 5d*: bbbb dead?? BugsBunny 4d*: you can save the game with igs menu, jjs 4d : what, aladdin? BugsBunny 4d*: then review with xgoban aladdin 5d*: b dead jjs 4d : u can do refresh zhuge NR : that's too fast jjs :-\) qzheng 3d : is roc using client? tweet NR : ask roc please. aladdin 5d*: i did refresh, but b still dead :\(] White[po] ; Black[kl] ; Comment[ yj 1d*: b alive] White[ln] ; Black[kk] ; Comment[ yj 1d*: m12 tweet NR : roc tell everyone thankyou we have to go. tweet NR : *roc*: thank-you we have to go now. jjs 4d : th~nk u roc too tweet NR : *roc*: the game is too good for White right now. jansteen 4d*: Thank you Mr. Jiang for your visit!] White[lm] ; Comment[ jjs 4d : zhuge, y dont u help liubei now? zhuge NR : yes indeed. thanks Mr Jiang.] Black[kh] ; Comment[ BugsBunny 4d*: I think zhuge's moves will not help liubei :\) yj 1d*: I thk m12 better zhuge NR : liubei is playing black???!!! damn! i've been helping White!] White[mh] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : :-\)] Black[lg] ; Comment[ tweet NR : roc is with his old buddy Jing Yang \(jy23\) :-\)] White[mg] ; Comment[ jansteen 4d*: Strong team! jjs 4d : wow, arte they playing on igs ? zhuge NR : here comes jy23. tweet NR : he is going to visit jansteen. :\)] Black[mf] ; Comment[ jansteen 4d*: Happy, happy, happy!! zhuge NR : wow... he's going to Amsterdam? tweet NR : jy23 is here now.] White[nf] ; Comment[ jansteen 4d*: Teaching us Go! jjs 4d : hi, jy23 aladdin 5d*: bbbb dead tweet NR : jansteen was kind enough to invite jujo to Holland. :\)] Black[me] ; Comment[ BugsBunny 4d*: isn't l10 only move?] White[ki] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : sometimes stronger the Go player, "weaker" a computer user he/she is, why is that? ;-\) BugsBunny 4d*: can't white capture 1 side or the other if l10?] Black[ji] ; White[kj] ; Black[jj] ; White[li] ; Comment[ jjs 4d : since everybady is equal under the sky tweet NR : which sky? yj 1d*: everybaby? jjs 4d : zhuge's sky zhuge NR : :-\) jjs 4d : everybody zhuge NR : w's lower right is 50+ points.] Black[qk] ; Comment[ jansteen 4d*: naked we are born, and naked we'll leave BugsBunny 4d*: not me! I'm dying with my clohtes on zhuge NR : hahahahaa... pig 25k : hihihihihii... yj 1d*: s8?] White[pj] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : your fur, to be exact.] Black[og] ; White[qj] ; Black[sk] ; Comment[ yj 1d*: b clap jjs 4d : myLeft is really strong, right, zhuge?] White[ql] ; Black[sl] ; White[ri] ; Black[si] ; Comment[ BugsBunny 4d*: if white winss ko, black gorup may be in danger jjs 4d : you know, I am left-handed zhuge NR : yes, jjs. while my boss is not doing well today. zhuge NR : no ko threat. pig 25k : i am right-handed yj 1d*: no ko important than this BugsBunny 4d*: if white takes at 512, doesn't o15 kill gorup? jjs 4d : the only occation i use my right hand is writting BugsBunny 4d*: what tournament is htis game for? jansteen 4d*: IGS 94 maybe? zhuge NR : no idea. jansteen 4d*: Oh no, we didn't play IGS 93 yet! jjs 4d : three kingdom T pig 25k : why so many prople obsrve this game? tweet NR : national tournament for youth players. jansteen 4d*: Who will organise the tournament this year guys? jjs 4d : jan will do right? BugsBunny 4d*: are there ANY ko threats for blac? jansteen 4d*: Sorry, would love to but no time jjs :-\( zhuge NR : ask UFO too. pig 25k : what is the rank jjsL? jansteen 4d*: I asked but he prefers not zhuge NR : i see. :-\( jjs 4d : so zhuge's turn zhuge NR : that was my plan; but i wouldn't be here this summer. Sorry.] White[sj] ; Comment[ pig 25k : i would be here this summer.] Black[ne] ; White[sg] ; Comment[ pig 25k : why there? jansteen 4d*: Expecting some territiroy in the upper-left section BugsBunny 4d*: can't play a slow move now BugsBunny 4d*: hard for black to catch up tweet NR : jy23 will try to kibitz] Black[el] ; Comment[ tweet NR : he is asking how to kibitz jy23 7d : this is a test zhuge NR : test is good!! BugsBunny 4d*: good! jansteen 4d*: The test worked jy23 zhuge NR : this is not a test. jansteen 4d*: Hahaha :-\) pig 25k : the test not work.........joke] White[dp] ; Black[co] ; Comment[ jy23 7d : i just know how to do this] White[dq] ; Comment[ jy23 7d : thanks zhuge NR : great! kob 6d : why so many people interesting in this game? zhuge NR : why not?] Black[en] ; White[em] ; Comment[ jjs 4d : since tweet is here, kob jansteen 4d*: Important games are fascinating to watch kob zhuge NR : see, jjs and jan are here too. jansteen 4d*: i can feel the tensions jjs 4d : even 7d game is not attractive right now pig 25k : sorry, who is tweet? jansteen 4d*: And the King of Kibitzers as well!] Black[eo] ; Comment[ tweet NR : i am tweet. kob 6d : thx tweet, jjs, zhuge ... jansteen 4d*: Hahaha :-\) pig 25k : Hihihi BugsBunny 4d*: any comment, jy23? tweet NR : jy23 says maybe jiang will be back Tuesday. zhuge NR : Tuesday night?] White[cq] ; Comment[ tweet NR : i did not ask the time. zhuge NR : back to Ohio or California or IGS? jy23 7d : i don't know well about this game] Black[cm] ; White[fp] ; Black[fn] ; Comment[ jjs 4d : wow, white was cut zhuge NR : lyu is here. BugsBunny 4d*: amateur would never give up 3 stones jansteen 4d*: White's most difficult problem will just be to win BugsBunny 4d*: they are too precious BugsBunny 4d*: but white has k6 jansteen 4d*: Winning a won game is difficult] White[fq] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : right jan!] Black[gm] ; Comment[ jansteen 4d*: Thanks zhuge, you tend to relax when in better posotion jansteen 4d*: Concentration slips and voila! zhuge NR : me? yeah i've been like that for 1800 years. :-\( jjs 4d : i guess zhuge relax when the city is empty] White[hn] ; Comment[ jy23 7d : i think b still have chance BugsBunny 4d*: seems to me that e8 worked rather well pig 25k : now is 3:36 am. here! jansteen 4d*: Enter at c14 now? zhuge NR : early! you got up so early! zhuge NR : :-\) pig 25k : i have no sleep! zhuge NR : oh. jjs 4d : k6? BugsBunny 4d*: how much of upper side was white have to destroy? pig 25k : what time there? tweet NR : jjsL must be a relative of jjs jjs 4d : my Left hand is playing zhuge NR : w has 50+ at lower right. 15 at upper right. 10 at lower left?] Black[hm] ; Comment[ jjs 4d : though i dont know where is he right now yet] White[dm] ; Comment[ tweet NR : USA pig 25k : USA? BugsBunny 4d*: k6? jjs 4d : zip code? tweet NR : yes. jjs 4d : '61801? pig 25k : what is USA?] Black[cn] ; Comment[ BugsBunny 4d*: good guess jansteen zhuge NR : where are you, pig? pig 25k : tokyo! zhuge NR : USA wa amerika desu. jjs 4d : where is tokyo?] White[cf] ; Comment[ pig 25k : JAPAN! jjs 4d : what is JAPAN?] Black[bd] ; Comment[ tweet NR : a country in asia, not far from China. jjs 4d : i c BugsBunny 4d*: I am wondering: would c12 have been better than b16? BugsBunny 4d*: seems to me that if white jumped into corner pig 25k : sorry, all of you are in USA now?] White[cj] ; Black[ch] ; Comment[ BugsBunny 4d*: that middle territory would be huge zhuge NR : some of us, pig. silly NR : I am not] White[bh] ; Black[dh] ; White[bg] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : pig-san, nihonjin desuka?] Black[bk] ; White[bj] ; Black[ej] ; White[ck] ; Comment[ pig 25k : i am a HK. zhuge NR : i see.] Black[bl] ; Comment[ BugsBunny 4d*: why are there so few japanese on the net?] White[ef] ; Comment[ zhuge NR : good question! jansteen 4d*: They are shy ?! pig 25k : they don't know IGS!!! zhuge NR : i am wondering too. BugsBunny 4d*: I see more chinese or korean players from japan, than japanese players tweet NR : no time. jjs 4d : they have better servers? tweet NR : they work too much. jansteen 4d*: Ah, right tweet jones 3k : hardly anyone in japan plays go? BugsBunny 4d*: not like us : tweet NR : i asked one time, and they told me no time. :-\)] Black[fe] ; Comment[ BugsBunny 4d*: is this sente against left group? jjs 4d : they r hardworking players BugsBunny 4d*: does black have to play b3 now? jjs 4d : i guess yes BB] White[dl] ; Comment[ BugsBunny 4d*: I guess black disagrees :\)] Black[ek] ; Comment[ jansteen 4d*: Black feels his attack is the last chance jones 3k : b still has j6, no? BugsBunny 4d*: good point, jones ! BugsBunny 4d*: forgot al about that] White[eh] ; Comment[ jjs 4d : black c6 group dead? jjs 4d : hi, lyu, and comments? lyu 7d*: busy talking tweet NR : to me. :-\)] Black[dg] ; Comment[ jy23 7d : b really lose now jy23 7d : bye tweet NR : bye jjs 4d : bye zhuge NR : bye jy23! BugsBunny 4d*: bye] White[ce] ; Black[cd] ; White[ee] ; Black[ed] ; Comment[ jak NR : who will soon resign? lyu 7d*: b zhuge NR : b rad 6k : black jjs 4d : b4 killes b] White[di] ; Comment[W wins by resignation. Congratulations, John!] )