The Charlatans Digest Mon Jul 29, 1996 Volume 2 : Issue 17 There are 28 messages totalling 791 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. ken 2. MY Mistake. (2) 3. the article (6) 4. Opinions Please 5. I was kinda right! 6. New Thread! (4) 7. Cheers Rob. 8. Charlies innit? 9. New Charlies Single 10. Indirectly related (3) 11. In Memorium (2) 12. Sad News (fwd) 13. Rob Collins' death (fwd) 14. Send a condolence! 15. The Third World 16. rob collins --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ** Special daily digest release due to the sad Rob Collins news ** ] [ ** Rest in peace Rob. And thank you for the music. // Erik ** ] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 10:24:50 +0000 From: Paul Simpson Subject: ken For heavens sake Mr Ken, the rest of us dont keep saying "you know" every five words when we're writtning. If you want to convince us of your Scottish credentials then fair enough but how about changing your vocabulary to includ more than three words (cunt, ya, ken) that it sounds to me that you picked up from Trainspotting. Sorry but I'm fed up of this mailing list being full of crap, hows about stopping all this "I can speak French" or whatever and talk music? Paul. -------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 09:51:38 +0100 From: hutch@paston.co.uk Subject: MY Mistake. Soz about the mistake, I was only fucking 11 0r 12 (between 11th and 12th) ha ha at the time. Anyway I can't say I feel sorry for him. What if it had been a little kid that he had hit while he was drunk? Drink-Driving sucks and as for not wearing a seatbelt thats plain madness. I heard it on radio 1 that the charlatans would not split up, however I don't know how reliable this source is - they've been wrong before. Does anyone know where to get hold of Charlatans sheet music - has there been any published? if so has anyone got isbn numbers etc. so I can order. " tell everyone, don't put it on, it makes no difference to me, won't mess around, been here too long." As ever waiting for correction, Rob. H Hutch -------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 12:27:50 -0700 From: ryan@paragon.co.uk (Ryan Butt) Subject: Re: the article ** An American knob writes=8A > >You know, this whole scenerio is really weird for me. Being only 15, I >haven't been around long enough to see many of these musical icons die >(except for Kurt Blowbrain, of course, and when he kicked the bucket we >had a party). It just seems strange to me. Has the news of the crash >been on the news programs or in the papers in the UK? Here in the >states, not a word has been said about it. I probably wouldn't have >even found out if it weren't for the list. Oh well. Enough of my >incessant blathering. On with the article. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your highly ammusing reference to "Kurt Blowbrain" just underlines your immaturity. Death aint funny so keep you jumped-up little opinions to your self, you little shit. Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 96 07:17:01 PDT From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" Subject: RE: Opinions Please My band used to do a few covers until I read an interview with Ian Brown in Melody Maker (sometime in '90). When asked why the roses don't do covers, he replied "It's like steppin' into a dead man's shoes." -cresser ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 11:37:04 +0100 From: hutch@paston.co.uk Subject: I was kinda right! I've just been reading old articles about the charlatans. If anyone has Select September 95 read it. A sizeable chunk of 'up to our hips' was recorded without rob collins - produced by Steve Hillage. Incidently if anyone knows any Steve Hillage - listen to his live cover of 'it's all too much' - the Beatles. Hutch ------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:29:57 +0100 (BST) From: pooh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Subject: Re: New Thread! >>I doubt yer could start a thread on this list now, luv. > >Ha, ha! I'm going to defy you my dear Travis, and I'll even do it without >death references. > >So, I finally bought/listened to Between 10th and 11th today. What can I >possibly say? It is an absolutely amazing album!! I cannot believe what I >was missing out on. It just puts you in this crazy, fun, happy kind of >mood. Can't Even be Bothered is a truly excellent song. To me, it's >almost anthemic in a way. I mean "Can't even be bothered, energy breaks me >down." How true is that? > >This album is definitely different from their most recent release. The >songs on the more recent one seem almost mellower (in general) and seem to >incorporate much more of an acoustic sound, whereas B10th&11th is much more >electronic in nature. But there is no sound in the world more pleasing >than a hammond organ. Wouldn't you all agree? It just kind of opens your >mind to an entirely different sound then you're used to. Very trippy. > >Once again, the lovely Tim Burgess has dazzled me with his oh-so-sweet >vocals. Never a harsh note. Just a truly mesmerizing voice. > >I would have to say that B10th&11th is possibly my favourite of the 4 >albums. Absolutely brilliant piece of work which will only sound better >with time. My love for the Charlatans has definitely been moved to a >deeper level and I couldn't be happier :) > >Jen > >make sure you listen to it on headphones. a definate must! >josh HAVE TO SAY BETWEEN THE 10TH&11TH IS MY FAVOURITE ALBUM TOO.i HAVE A COPY OF THE C.D i PICKED UP IN AN OLD SHOP SOMEWHERE WITH TIMS AUTOGRAPH ON IT.PRIZE POSSESSION. cAN'T EVEN BE BOTHERED IS SUCH A MESMERIZING TRACK!!!!!!! ------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:19:31 +0100 (BST) From: pooh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Subject: Re: Cheers Rob. I found out last night and I can not believe it.I am gutted. marie ------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:36:03 +0100 (BST) From: pooh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Subject: Re: New Thread! You are a true soulmate.I have been into the Charlies since 1990 and Can't even be bothered is deinately my favourite song of all time...a magical awakening with such a vibrant almost mystical quality about it.I was devasted by the news of the death.LoNG LIVE THE cHARLATANS. mARIE ----------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 13:27:02 +0100 (BST) From: pooh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Subject: Re: Charlies innit? I think the Bluetones are brilliant.Will be going to see them when they tour this Autumn!!!!! marie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 20:14:51 +0100 From: Graham Cawsey Subject: New Charlies Single I am listening to it right this second on Radio1 1FM's Evening Session. It is written by Rob and is called This Is One To Another. It will be released in the UK on August 26. It sounds like it may have been produced by the Chemical Brothers. It is full of heavy break beats etc. Graham... "Round are way the birds are singing Round are way the sun shines bright" ------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 16:10:55 -0400 (EDT) From: DANIEL MCNELIS Subject: Re: the article Okay KIDS enough of the fucking fighting already. I'm sure none of are in good moods about this whole thing but there is no reason that we should log on and find three personal attacks directed at members of this list in one day. Most of us do get along, but the reason why we "speak French" and talk about things other than music is because people start insulting each other for reasons no better than "I don't like the way he writes". I'm sure that Travis has caught enough shit already and that kid with the "Kurt Blowbrain" reference didn't mean to offend anyone. I really thought all of this bullshit argueing would cease for more than two days given the tragic circumstances. dan. ------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 21:13:48 GMT From: *suedette* Subject: Re: the article At 12:27 25/07/96 -0700, you wrote: >>Your highly ammusing reference to "Kurt Blowbrain" just underlines your >>immaturity. Death aint funny so keep you jumped-up little opinions to your >>self, you little shit. > >Ryan Oh come on now. Must we resort to more name calling here? No, death isn't funny, but a lot of people value some lives more than others. It is very noble to try and adopt a holier-than-thou attitude about death, but really, no one gives a shit about it until it affects them personally. Obviously the person who wrote the Kurt comment was not affected by Kurt's death, or maybe made the comment because of the fact that it was a suicide... I don't know, and I don't really care. As for myself, I can honestly say that I didn't careless about Kurt Cobain's death, I was never into Nirvana, and if some grunge junky asshole wants to blow his brains out and leave a legion of young, impressionable fans and a wife and child behind, than he is a selfish bastard, and good riddence to him. This isn't a nirvana list. This is the charalatans, and I think that definitely EVERYONE who is on this list has been affected by Rob Collins' death, obviously. And therefore Ryan, the charlies fan that placed his $.02 worth should be not be told to keep his mouth shut, nor called a 'little shit' by you or anyone else here. Just my $.02 worth. *s* -------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:21:19 -0700 From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe) Subject: Indirectly related Okay, so this isn't really about the Charlies, but it sorta is, because it's about the Chemical Bros. Right, so a couple of days ago I got the new Beck album, "Odelay", which is terrific, I might add. Anyways, while I was leafing through the liner notes, I noticed who it was mixed by - the Dust Brothers. My question (should anyone know the answer) is why is it the Dust Bros and not the Chemical Bros. And I'm quite positive that it's the same Dust Brothers who've done so much work with our beloved Charlies (there's my minute contents, so no flames, please!). Anyways, I just found that to be a bit curious. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 19:23:05 -0400 From: SPROSTON GREEN Subject: Reply to: RE: In Memorium THere is no reason the band cannot go on with out Rob...it may seem strange at first...but i think it may only bring the band tighter together.....he added alot of what i liked with that dark funky hammond...but they should go on as the charlies...they are after all the ONLY BAGGY band to survive w/ out a major change.....hell even the roses are getting a new guitarist and rob really will be missed ....i really dont know my point...so i will end now James "Lazyitis" Callaway ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 1996 22:29:32 -0700 From: jhowe@ccinet.ab.ca (Jen Howe) Subject: Re: New Thread! Ah! Responses! Seems I'm quite talented at keeping the threads going on this list, huh? Guess the threads wouldn't be that good were if not for all of you, though. Anyways, I just think you guys are all really great, especially in the wake of all that's happened over the past couple of days. It's encouraging to read all the posts about how upset everyone is. That might sound a tad morbid, but it's just good to know that we all love and respect Rob, no matter how he left this world. Let's keep the memory of Rob alive by remembering the great music he gave us. We may not have him anymore, but we always have the music. Jen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 11:42:00 -0500 From: "Travis Saunders-R3278C" Subject: Re: MY Mistake. Let us ken also, please. To all those also on the 'sis list, all I can say is I'm sorry fer me outburst. CHEERS Travis Everybody knows the pain I'm gonna be in heaven IN MEMORY OF ROB COLLINS MAY HE REST IN PEACE r3278c@email.mot.com ----------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 13:09:26 +0800 (WST) From: Kevin Johnson PhD Geopolitics Subject: Re: New Thread! I couldn't agree more. Between 10th and 11th gets better and better. I really don't understand why it never received the acclaim it deserved. What about "the end of everything" (is that what its called, I don't have the cd in front of me). Very nice. I was sold on the Charlatans with this album, the first was just a bit too low fi (hope I don't offend anyone). Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 11:28:30 +0100 From: vicky@bamboo.mluri.sari.ac.uk (Vicky Gilham) Subject: Re: Indirectly related The Dust Brothers on the Beck album are the original US Dust Brothers (the reason why the UK pair had to find a new name). They've been around for a lot longer and I think are most famous for their work with the Beastie Boys, esp. on Paul's Boutique (?) Hope this clears things up - others probably know more than me. Vicki. -------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:07:15 -0400 From: debevans@barint.on.ca (deborah evans) Subject: Re: the article >Oh come on now. Must we resort to more name calling here? > >No, death isn't funny, but a lot of people value some lives more than >others. It is very noble to try and adopt a holier-than-thou attitude about >death, but really, no one gives a shit about it until it affects them >personally. Obviously the person who wrote the Kurt comment was not >affected by Kurt's death, or maybe made the comment because of the fact that >it was a suicide... I think I'd have to agree that I have no respect for Kurk Cobain nor do I care about his death since he took the gutless way out and killed himself. Look at Rickie Edwards from the Manic Street Preachers he had some obvious psychological problems and could not handle fame and he just disappeared to live a life of solitude away from fame (since the new theory is he is living a recluse life somewhere in Wales). Likewise, I suddenly have no respect for Rob Collins knowing he was drunk behind the wheel. Okay don't get me wrong I do feel sad about his death since I knew him personally. We had mutual friends in common, including his girlfriend, and he was terrific. He was always very kind to me when the band was in Toronto, treating myself and my friend to all access passes, but I can not feel sympathy for someone obviously that stupid as to get behind the wheel of a vehicle while intoxicated. Yes, his contribution to the band will be missed but I'm sorry when I say I don't feel the same kind of sadness I did before all the circumstances came to light. I'm just more than happy he didn't manage to kill someone else. My only sympathy now goes to his family. And I know I'm going to get endless nasty comments and remarks for this but let's all keep in mind that everyone is entitled to their opinion and this is mine. Besides think about it if it was anyone else (ie a non famous person) in the same situation we'd all shake our heads and say what a fool we thought he or she was. But, since it was someone we respected and idolized we tend to over look the mistake that brought about his downfall. Plus, consider the fact that I'm saying this about someone I knew relatively well, who's girlfriend I grew up with, and who's very close friend's family knew my family. ------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 15:04:06 -0700 From: ryan@paragon.co.uk (Ryan Butt) Subject: Re: the article Thanks, er=8A*Suedette* for your comments, but having learnt more facts about the late Rob Collin's incident, could his intake of alcohol on that particular evening, or perhaps that fact that he didn't wear a seat-belt amount to suicide? Don't misunderstand me, I feel for the remaining band members and implore them to carry on with the album despite the obvious pain and uncertainty they're going through. Anyway, stupid neglect or whatever the reason for the terrible incident, dealing with the death of Rob is hard enough without someone poking fun at other musical tragedies. Like you said, this isn't a Nirvana mailing list, so why this person felt inclined to include Cobain in their otherwise highly 'moving' letter is beyond comprehension. Basically what I'm trying to say is that it doesn't pay to put others down just to make a point, and if the geezer from the states had spent more thought on his so called '$.02' worth, then everyone would be happy=8A or not as the case maybe, but you catch my drift right? Can't even be bothered to talk Love 'n hugs=8A oh, and Dan - PEACE MAN! Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 10:52:59 -0400 (EDT) From: David Reichert Subject: Re: the article At 16:10 25/07/96 -0400, you wrote: > Okay KIDS enough of the fucking fighting already. I'm sure none of are >in good moods about this whole thing but there is no reason that we should log >on and find three personal attacks directed at members of this list in one day. > Most of us do get along, but the reason why we "speak French" and talk >about things other than music is because people start insulting each other for >reasons no better than "I don't like the way he writes". I'm sure that Travis >has caught enough shit already and that kid with the "Kurt Blowbrain" reference >didn't mean to offend anyone. > > I really thought all of this bullshit argueing would cease for more >than two days given the tragic circumstances. > > dan. Hear hear Cheers! DAVE In memory of Rob Collins, R.I.P. a la memoire de Rob Collins, R.E.P. ------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:40:37 +0200 (MET DST) From: Eirik Gudmundsen Subject: Sad News (fwd) Hi again! Here's another info... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 24 Jul 96 16:15:55 GMT From: Dean Jackson To: eirikg@ifi.uio.no Subject: Sad News Hi, It's Dean Jackson here.... I run The Wonderwall at http://www.beat.co.uk/beat/wonderwall.html I also work for The BBC. We have been running the following news story..... I don't know whether or not you've heard about it.....? ________________________________________________________________________ POP FANS MOURN KEYBOARD PLAYER'S CAR CRASH DEATH Band members of pop group The Charlatans were "devastated" tonight following the death of their keyboard player Rob Collins in a car crash. Collins, 32, died after the red BMW he was driving left the road near Monmouth, Gwent on the way to recording studios late on Monday night. Part of the late 1980s Madchester sound, the band only recently returned to triumphant chart-topping form after years in the wilderness, and were due to feature as special guests on Oasis' summer tour in a few weeks. Colleagues of the band said they were "devastated" by the loss. "They are really upset and trying to decide what to do," a spokesman for record company Beggars Banquet said. There were fears that without Collins, the four remaining members would be unable to carry on. Scott Piering, of The Charlatans' promotions company, said: "Frankly, everyone involved with the band or close to the band are too shocked at this stage to say anything. "They were involved in recording their greatest work and Rob was instrumental to that whole process." It appeared Collins' car veered out of control near the South Wales studios where the band were recording their fifth album. The car ended up in a field after hitting several parked vehicles and plunging through a hedge in Rockfield Road, Monmouth, Gwent. He died from serious injuries on the way to Nevill Hall Hospital, Abergavenny. His passenger, a sound engineer, suffered shock but escaped unhurt. A wild but charismatic character, Collins recently served four months of an eight months jail sentence for his involvement in an armed robbery. He drove suspects away from an off-licence hold-up when a gun was fired, but protested he knew nothing about the crime at the time. Singer Tim Burgess recently said the jail sentence almost ended the band. "If he had gone down for four years, there's no way we would have carried on without him," he told this month's Select magazine. Collins' release was the spark that inspired a return to form with eponymous album The Charlatans last year which went straight into the charts at number one. From Northwitch south of Manchester, the band are one of the few survivors of the Madchester scene that involved Happy Mondays, The Stone Roses and Inspiral Carpets. They have cited everyone from The Rolling Stones to Sly and the Family Stone and The Beastie Boys as influences, and claimed that if they sounded like Oasis, it was because they got there first. The band's latest single and video was due for release on August 26. _____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 17:39:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Eirik Gudmundsen Subject: Rob Collins' death (fwd) Hi all! I've had the worst day! I'm home for the summer, and can't connect everyday to the internet. That's why I unfortunately happened to read about Rob's death through a Norwegian newspaper (amazingly enough). After that I rushed to the computer and realised there was a hundred mails waitin for me. I feel bad since I run a homepage. I haven't donr anything, and it's a shame. Tonight I will put up a page to pay respect to Rob on the same address as the original Charlatans page (http://www.ifi.uio.no/~eirikg/Charlatans.html). Me and my brother will also try to put up a page where we can all send our condolences to. Look for it tomorrow. Forgive me for not doing this the same day he died. I play keyboards myself, and Rob Collins has always been my big hero. I haven't heard anyone who plays so brilliant on his keyboards and especially the hammond. That hammond sound was the main reason I started to listen to british music in the golden year of 1990. I am very sad to hear that he was driving drunk as I am very much against that. But he was, still are, and always will be one of those who touched those tangents in the most brilliant ways. May you rest in peace Rob. I've recieved a few personal mails with some press releases about the accident. I thought it was in it's place to pass them on to the list. And, at last, PLAY THOSE GREAT ALBUMS TILL YOUR EARS DROP OFF. THERE HASN'T BEEN A MORE SUITABLE TIME TO DO THAT. Love from E i r i k G u d m u n d s e n -+- (eirikg@ifi.uio.no) "..just when you're thinkin' things over.." ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 16:48:02 GMT From: Doug Anderson To: eirikg@ifi.uio.no Subject: Rob Collins' death You might already know about this, but Rob Collins died in the early hours of Tuesday morning in a car crash. He was driving and apparently ploughed into a row of parked cars. An unnamed passenged escaped with a few cuts and bruises. Anyway here's the Times' obituary (lifted from their electronic site so copyright etc.)... Doug Anderson. =========== OBITUARIES ROBERT COLLINS Robert Collins, pop musician, died in a car accident on July 22 aged 33. He was born on February 23, 1963. ROBERT COLLINS was the keyboard player for the Charlatans, one of the more genuinely innovative of the new "indie" pop bands which grew up in the fertile musical ground of Manchester during the late 1980s. The movement took its name from the small, independent record labels by which the bands were produced. The Charlatans' rise to fame was the swiftest of any of the local bands and, for a while at least, until new groups like Oasis eclipsed them, they were set to be the next big British band. Their popularity was based on providing a modern style of dance music, which had its roots in 1960s pop. Their fashionably gaunt lead singer, Tim Burgess, was considered as handsome as a young Mick Jagger, but it was Collins (equally handsome in a dark, saturnine mould) who provided the musical muscle to back him up, with his Hammond organ, an instrument which had been unfairly neglected since the 1960s. When Collins was relegated to the background - as he was for occasional singles like Just When You're Thinkin' Things Over - the group's playing could become directionless. But when he was allocated a starring role, their playing became focused and exciting. Inspired by those underground mod and psychedelic revival bands of the 1970s, he produced an instantly recognisable sound from his instrument, sometimes rich and swelling, sometimes urgent and stabbing. Collins was born in Sedgeley in the West Midlands, and went to school locally. He played the piano as a child, and performed in several school and local bands before forming the Charlatans with his old musical partner Martin Blunt, the band's bass player. Steve Harrison, the band's manager, had followed Collins's career, and he found them a vocalist in Tim Burgess, who was then singing with the Electric Crayons. The Charlatans had as little to do with one of those market-led, expensively styled boys bands as could be imagined. They bought their own clothes, and Harrison's previous experience had extended to running a record shop. But their debut 12-inch single, Indian Rope, released in 1990 was a success, and established the group as a fine live act. They had released the record on their own label, Dead Dead Good. Now they secured a contract with Beggars Banquet Records, and released The Only One I Know, a single vaguely reminiscent of Book T and the MGs (one of Collins's biggest influences). It was a brilliant summer anthem, and pushed the Charlatans into the top of the charts. Their follow-up single, Then, and a debut album later that year kept them on a high note. But the following year was quieter for them, and 1992 constituted a particularly low point for Collins, who was sentenced for eight months after, most bizarrely, taking part in an attempted armed robbery. Collins was driving the getaway car from the bungled off-licence raid. The sentencing followed the release of their excellent third album, Up To Our Hips, and the Charlatans were quite willing to disband if Collins had been jailed for a much longer term. In the event he served only four months, and the band bounced back after his release. With the arrival of Britpop bands like Oasis, and a resurgence of interest abroad in British music, the Charlatans had enjoyed renewed success during the past year. Oasis invited them to appear as special guests on their new tour. Last year's album, eponymously entitled The Charlatans, shot straight to number one and remained in the charts for many weeks. The album seemed to have hit the mark as confidently as anything they had done before. Collins's wildchild behaviour had not, however, mellowed with age, nor was it much improved by a youthful and unsuccessful marriage. He died after his red BMW left the road in Monmouth. --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 96 12:22:12 PDT From: "CHRIS WALTON, SHIFT 7 DIFFUSION, PG:932-3802" Subject: RE: Reply to: RE: In Memorium Rob was so much more than just the keyboardist, I mean him and Martin started the band. I think if they keep going it would be a nice tribute to Rob. On the other hand I could see how it would be very hard to move on after something like this. I really don't know what you mean by saying "the only baggy band to survive w/ out major change." I think when a guitarist is changed (John Baker to Mark Collins) that's as major as they come isn't it? I watched the Some Friendly video last night and almost cried. Miss ya Rob. -Cresser ps. the Roses were through when Reni left. -------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 19:36:04 -0400 From: SPROSTON GREEN Subject: Reply to: Indirectly related to diffrent sets of producer/djs....chemicals had to change their name because they were giving they boys who produced early beastie boys records a "bad" name even though the original dust bros had heard nothing of the music done by the other dust -------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 01:46:05 +0200 (MET DST) From: Eirik Gudmundsen Subject: Send a condolence! Hi everyone! I have now tried to put up a respectful tribute to Rob on my homepage. I have also put up a bulletinboard where I want all of you to write your condolences or tributes to Rob. Just go to this address, and you'll easily find the way. http://www.ifi.uio.no/~eirikg/Charlatans.html Anyway, I've been told that the funerla will take place on Tuesday. If you look on the latest issue of NME, you can also read about the whole story. Noel Gallagher is said to be auctioning his scooter to raise money for Rob's six year old daughter. Ok, bye for now ------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 18:01:09 +0100 (BST) From: Louise Higgs Subject: Re: The Third World Bluetones... Yes I do like them, not Mancunian though. Bit nearer Hounslow I believe. Sorry if you've had lots of people telling you that. - Louise ---------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 Jul 1996 03:56:52 -0500 From: sbrown@netexpress.net (shane) Subject: Re: rob collins According to Beggar's Banquet, there is still time... >Return-Path: lesley@beggars.com >Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 12:50:25 -0500 >To: sbrown@netexpress.net >From: lesley@beggars.com (lesley bleakley) >Subject: Re: rob collins >X-UIDL: 27b14c562606fedc502c3dfa6b1c70b7 > >Dear Shane > >If you wanted to send a card in time for the funeral which is Thursday 1st >August, please send it c/o Steve Harrison > Omega Music > 2 Witton Walk > Northwich > Chesire > CW9 5AT > England > >Thankyou for the e-mail > >kind regards >Lesley ------------------------------- End of The Charlatans Digest #2.17 ********************************** * To subscribe/unsubscribe to the Digest version of the list, send your request to: then-request@lysator.liu.se * The maintainer of the Digest mailing list is chief@lysator.liu.se, and can also be reached at owner-then@lysator.liu.se * The digests can also be found in HTML format at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/then.html, and in ASCII format at ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/then * To subscribe to the Live version of the list, send your subscription request to: Majordomo@stud2.misjonshs.no * All messages to the Live mailing list should be sent to: charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no * The maintainer of the Live list is eirikg@ifi.uio.no, and can also be reached at charlatans-owner@stud2.misjonshs.no