Subject: Meeting with Donald Schmitt - 11/20/94
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 13:08:16 UNDEFINED


              MEETING WITH DONALD SCHMITT 11/20/94, SUNDAY


On November 20, 1994, Donald Schmitt, co-author with Kevin Randle
of the book "The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell," (c) 1994,
met quietly with a small coterie of supporters in the Milwaukee
area for a pre Thanks Giving get together.  Here are the more
interesting highlights distilled from an audio tape I made with
Don Shmitt's permission.  I am responsible for the following
personal interpretation.  Any inaccuracies are totally
unintentional on my part.

*    THE SHOWTIME ROSWELL MOVIE will be coming out in video tape
     in January.  It will then be broadcast on Network TV in
     Spring.  (I don't know which network.)

*    SPEILBERG RUMORS CONCERNING ROSWELL.  Schmitt mentioned that
     he continues to hear more and more unconfirmed reports that
     Speilberg may be interested in producing his own version of
     the Roswell incident.  One hot theory suggests Speilberg
     might like to debut the speculated Roswell production in
     major theaters in July 1997 to mark the 50th anniversary of
     the legendary incident.  Again, this remains an unconfirmed
     rumor, though Mr. Schmitt, Co-writer to the Showtime
     exclusive made for TV movie "Roswell," did give me the
     distinct impression that no one would be greater pleased
     than he if the current gossip turns out to be accurate.

*    SHERIDAN CAVITT'S RECENT COMMENTS CONFLICTS WITH SCHMITT &
     RANDLE'S PERSONALLY TAPED INTERVIEW(S).  Donald made the
     comment that they have Captain Sheridan Cavitt's own
     personal testimony on tape and that it conflicts with what
     he is currently saying.

*    MAJOR AIR FORCE MISTAKE IN RESEARCHING HISTORICAL
     DOCUMENTATION.  Apparently, the Air Force report apparently
     never bothered to check the meteorological records on the
     day(s) the secret Mogul balloon launch(es) were alleged to
     have been executed.  Randle & Schmitt checked all balloon
     launch dates in question and discovered that the wind
     patterns, particularly relating to the jet stream, could not
     have carried the balloons to the crash site based on where
     the launchings were executed.  But wait!  It gets better
     than that!  According to Schmitt they have the original
     launch logs of all the Mogul flights, and the most likely
     launches to fit the crash theory, #9 or #4, had been
     scrubbed.  They never flew.  Even the flight director,
     Charles Moore said it couldn't have been Project Mogul.
     According to Schmitt, the Air Force report has made a major
     blunder by going out on a limb theorizing the Roswell crash
     was due to a Mogul balloon flight.

*    CREDULOUS STATEMENT MADE BY AN AIR FORCE INVESTIGATING
     SPOKESPERSON.  Donald mentioned a revealing statement
     attributed to what one of the Air Force's investing
     spokesperson, a Major David Thursten (sp?), was heard to
     have said concerning the well documented Roswell newspaper
     reports back in July 1947.  Thursten apparently once said
     that he had heard "rumors" that there had been such a press
     release concerning a UFO crash near Roswell, but that HE
     PERSONALLY HAD NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF SUCH A RELEASE,
     meaning he had not even bothered to perform a simple search
     of news paper accounts of the time.  Donald felt this was a
     clear example of the Air Force investigation team's own
     ignorance, apathy, and/or reluctance to even review
     documentation readily available in the public domain.

*    DECEPTIVE-LIKE TACTICS USED TO AVERT ATTENTION AWAY FROM
     POTENTIALLY SENSITIVE ISSUES AVOIDED IN AIR FORCE REPORT.
     Donald stated that Cornel Weaver (sp?) who issued the recent
     Air Force report apparently modified and/or deleted a number
     of questions that had originally been brought up by a chief
     investigator, Lt. Mc Andrew (sp?).  Apparently, Mc Andrew
     personally told Randle & Schmitt that he had raised a number
     of questions but that it appeared that Weaver had modified
     his portion, essentially removing his queries.  Meanwhile,
     Mr. Schmitt stated that the press had then been told that
     Cornel Weaver had been retired from the Air Force the day
     after the Pentagon press conference, meaning he was no
     longer available for questioning.  Not true, according to
     Schmitt.  Donald stated that Weaver was simply reassigned to
     Langley, Virginia, here he continues in active duty in the
     service of his country.  Donald claimed that this is one of
     the tactics the Air Force used to deliberately deflect
     attention away from those who might attempt to follow up on
     the particulars of Weaver's report.

*    AIR FORCE INVESTIGATION OF ROSWELL CONTINUES DESPITE PUBLIC
     CLAIMS THAT FINAL "OFFICIAL" WORD ON SUBJECT HAS BEEN MADE.
     Donald claims that some aspect of the original air force
     investigation team is apparently still investigating the
     incident even though they publicly stated on Sept. 8th that
     the "final word" had been written on the Roswell incident.
     Apparently, Randle & Shmitt's recent pleas to the Air
     Force's investigation team, that they go talk to the actual
     witnesses themselves, may have jarred them up.  Donald
     stated that he has personally heard from a number of the
     Roswell witnesses who claim that they have been contacted in
     the last couple of months on numerous occasions by the
     investigators.  Even Jessie Marcel Jr. himself has received
     almost a dozen phone calls from the Air Force in the last
     five weeks alone, apparently trying to convince Marcel Jr.
     that what he saw over forty years ago had to have been a
     "balloon."  According to Schmitt, all the witnesses are
     remaining adamant, sticking to their original stories... "No
     sir!  What I handled was not of this earth."

*    NEW WITNESS TO MAC BRAZEL COLLABORATES STORIES OF HIM BEING
     THREATENED.  Donald said they have uncovered a new witnesses
     who claimed that Mac Brazel apparently showed signs of
     having been threatened to keep quiet about the incident.
     The witnessed described Mac Brazel, almost twenty years
     afterwards, that "Brazel turned stone white," that he could
     clearly see Mac was a broken man, that he behaved defeated
     and not like his normal self when the Roswell incident was
     specifically brought up.  Brazel was quoted to have said
     "Those people [referring the military] will kill you..."
     Brazel was also alleged to have said that he treasured his
     life too much to ever say anything about it, a conviction he
     kept to his grave.  The new witnesses descriptions
     collaborates what Brazel's family has already stated, and
     continues to bring forth the question of why such strong arm
     tactics were necessary simply to cover up a crashed
     "balloon."  The new witness also mentioned that Mac suddenly
     had a new pick up truck which nobody could figure out how he
     could have afforded - the implication being that the
     government used the "carrot and stick" approach on Brazel.
     Other new witnesses also confirm that the government had
     "physically grabbed" and kept Mac in incommunicado for a
     whole week during the incident.

*    PAPERBACK EDITION (REVISED) OF "THE TRUTH ABOUT...ROSWELL"
     NOW IN BOOK STORES.  I purchased a fresh copy at my local
     Borders Book store on November 25th, Friday.  I also saw it
     at Waldens.  The cover is completely redesigned with a green
     background and contains updated information not available in
     the hard cover edition.

*    ROSWELL QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER.  The much awaited Roswell
     Newsletter of the continuing investigation by Randle &
     Schmitt should be hitting subscriber's mailboxes soon.
     Schmitt mentioned that they have already started blocking
     out the layout of their second edition.  For more info
     write:

              The Roswell Update or Video
                     P.O. Box 85
                  Hartford, WI 53027

*    THIRD BOOK ON ROSWELL INVESTIGATION PLANNED?  Randle and
     Schmitt have been asked to write a third book on Roswell
     where they will respond specifically to the statements and
     theories presented by the recent Air Force report.


OTHER INTERESTING BITS OF ANECDOTAL INFORMATION WORTH MENTIONING:


*    CRYING WOLF CAN BE HIGHLY REVEALING IN A SERENDIPITOUS WAY!
     Schmitt told an interesting story which in my opinion is
     insightful concerning the gut reaction many people may
     experience when they finally realize that many UFO reports,
     like the Roswell crash, could be true.  Donald relayed the
     story of an ironic phone call he received from a good friend
     of his, a prolific UFO writer, a person who has been
     involved in investigating the phenomenon since his teen age
     years.  The UFO investigator called Mr. Schmitt one evening
     in the midst of another series of rumors concerning the
     possibility that there was going to be a major
     "announcement" from Washington DC, apparently concerning the
     authentication of certain UFO reports.  (BTW, the major
     government UFO "announcement" related to this particular
     story, as you might suspect, turned out to be a false rumor
     as has often happened in the field of UFO investigation.)
     But before this particular rumor "announcement" evaporated
     Donald relayed the story of how the voice of his friend "was
     shaking with fear."  Donald stressed that, again, this was a
     person who was involved in the investigating and writing of
     UFO reports for almost 25 years of his life.  In spite of
     the fact that he was a well seasoned veteran he told Donald
     that he "hated to admit it" but for the first time in his
     life he was "frightened," frightened that it was beginning
     to look as if these UFO reports were actually going to be
     authenticated.

     It probably wouldn't be a bad idea for all of us to try
     imagining for a few seconds a scenario similar to what
     Donald's friend must have experienced during that -War of
     the Worlds- like evening.

*    WILLIAM SHATNER.  A ROSWELL SUPPORTER?  Last but not least!
     For all you Star Trek trivia Fans, William Shatner
     apparently has become interested in the Roswell incident.
     It would seem that Shatner and Schmitt have serendipitously
     bumped into each other on several occasions while Donald was
     out on the lecture circuit.  Shatner was found sitting in
     Schmitt's audience at least once.  Now, Please!  Don't start
     unfounded rumors!  I stress here that I don't know if this
     means or even remotely implies that Shatner might be
     interested in doing some kind of public relations work
     concerning the Roswell incident.  I doubt it.  Apparently
     rumors including written accounts to the effect that Shatner
     had seen a UFO are unfounded according to what William told
     Shmitt privately.  What could I possibly add to this late
     breaking revelation...  Kirk "went down with the bridge"
     like a true Star Fleet officer should.


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Stay tuned!

Steve

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