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              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 5  Num. 46
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")


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INTERVIEW WITH SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- JULY 4, 1995
I spoke by phone with Sherman Skolnick on the morning of July 4, 
1995. The following is what he said. Note that I neither 
necessarily agree nor disagree with either all or parts of the 
following. Persons mentioned in the interview are invited to send 
their rebuttals, of reasonable length, to bigxc@prairienet.org 
for probable distribution.
                         -- Brian Francis Redman, Editor-in-Chief

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CONSPIRACY NATION:
And that's, in other words, a bribe, do you think?


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well. An officer, out of uniform who describes himself, and comes 
in with this suitcase and lays down the suitcase and starts 
counting off $100 bills and says he wants to buy, that this is 
the opening shot and he wants to buy a lot *more* preferred 
stock, and if this company has been losing money for a year 
(they've only been publishing for a year, but they're losing 
money)... If somebody offers 100,000 or a million dollars -- hey. 
I understand that the principles of Treetop Communications may 
reject it. But you don't... Well.

Then they started after me. I'm being offered a syndicated TV 
show, commercial. My show, now, in Chicago, is a free show, 
public access. It actually costs us money. We don't make 
anything, and we never ask for anything. Public access doesn't 
pay. It's not commercial.

Then, I'm offered a nightly radio show, with 8 million listeners, 
which may, in some way, compete with Gordon Liddy. So that's a 
big deal. Some of my friends might lean on me if I [don't] reject 
it, because it might be an effort to buy me.

I let 'em know that I'm not for sale. I haven't been, in the 37 
years I've been active, from 1958 to date. (I'm just *telling* 
you what's happening!)

Now, what is this all about? I started to tell *Spotlight's* 
people that a *further* segment that I'm abstracting from the 
secret report deals with the fact that [Vince] Foster did *not* 
release the documents to Pollard on his own. He did it upon the 
authority of Vice-President George Bush and Secretary of Defense 
Caspar Weinberger.

Those that may recall the Pollard case know that Caspar 
Weinberger so much as said that, if there was a law authorizing 
the rope and the gallow, that he wanted Pollard put to the 
gallows.


CONSPIRACY NATION:
All right, you say that Bush authorized these documents. You mean 
documents as far as missile data? Is that it?


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yeah! Right.

Now the problem all the way around, as I told Israeli Radio, is 
that my story can be interpreted either for or against Israel, in 
that there's a question whether Israel set up three or more coded 
and secret accounts in Switzerland and elsewhere in the name of 
Foster, to buy him or blackmail him. Or, on the other hand, 
whether Weinberger and Bush are blackmailing Israel. Because 
Israel was the broker on the October Surprise -- Barcelona, 
Madrid, Paris: October, 1980. You know what I'm talkin' about?


CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. I understand. Yeah.


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
In other words, Israel wanted to fight Iraq by pumping up Iran. 
And so Israel, reportedly, helped vice-presidential candidate 
Bush, and Reagan campaign chief William Casey, and others, to 
work what some call a treasonous deal to offer weapons to Iran if 
they will delay the release of the hostages so as to screw Jimmy 
Carter in the 1980 election. And the hostages, in fact, were 
released a few minutes after Reagan raised his hand and became 
inaugurated on January 19th, '81.

And Israel brokered the deal. Ari Ben-Menashe in his book, 
*Profits of War*, contends so; others contend so.


CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, I know.


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
But Israel got involved in the October Surprise, okay? So there's 
this relationship: Bush-Caspar Weinberger-Israel-Foster.

Foster was not an independent force. Nor was Pollard. Pollard was 
at the bottom of the thing.

Now there's all kinds of blackmail complications. There is a 
"Pollard Committee" that concerns me. They raise money, 
worldwide. And because of my contacts with some of them, I am 
concerned that they want Pollard to stay in jail while they raise 
money, *possibly* (I can't prove this, but *possibly*) to feather 
their own nest and keep Pollard in jail for the rest of his life.

'Cuz *if* the Pollard case was to be re-opened, as a result of 
this secret report and my story (which I'm writing in segments -- 
*Spotlight* got the first segment of it)... may tend to re-open 
the Pollard case and, insofar as the Pollard Committee is raising 
sums of money, they wouldn't need to raise sums of money anymore 
if Pollard gets released.

Do you see what I'm saying?


CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. Yeah. But goin' back to...


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Now wait a minute! That is a severe criticism of the Pollard 
Committee, but *that* is my opinion, based on what I found out 
the last couple of days.

Now, another reason that they don't want... You see, in my 
opinion, another reason that *Spotlight* did not want my story 
published is *more* than the possibility of a $1 million 
transfusion to them, to make up their deficit or whatever their 
problem may be, with them, or *Radio Free America*, their 
subsidiary. The problem is that they take a philosophical 
position, heavily anti-Israel. In fact, some people go one step 
further and say that the newspaper is anti-Jew. Well, I don't 
believe the last part. But I *do* recognize, they're heavily 
anti-Israel. And evidently, in reading my detailed story about a 
portion of the secret, government report, they evidently 
recognized that the report is fair and my abstracting of the 
report is fair. In other words, I will not slant the story to be 
anti-Israel, merely because the newspaper that told me to write 
the story is a plainly anti-Israel vehicle.


CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, I would say that they're anti-Israel also, just from 
readin'...


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
I don't think they're anti-Jewish. They *are* heavily anti- 
Israel, though.


CONSPIRACY NATION:
I kind of agree with what you're sayin'.


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
They *do* oppose the Holocaust Museum. I fault them on that. But 
there is no free press in America. I would prefer that my stories 
run in the liberal press, but you know what the problem is: too 
many in the smaller, liberal press -- so-called "left wing" press 
-- get their money from foundations that, I have documented, have 
links to CIA. So I'm between a rock and a hard place.

But the problem here is, they evidently noticed that my story is 
fair on the Israeli question and I will not slant it to slam 
Israel! You see what I mean? And that may be an additional reason 
why they are stopping my story.

The other reason is, they did not want to know. I started to tell 
*Spotlight's* people that other segments of my story, based on 
the secret report (which is upwards of 50 pages), deals with 
Caspar Weinberger, Secretary of Defense, and Vice-President Bush, 
in the '80s, more or less supervising Foster and more or less 
letting Foster know that it was "O.K." to release these secret 
documents to Pollard. And Pollard, apparently, made them 
available to Israel.

But in other words, the whole chain of situations.

And apparently, Foster was the "Mr. X" mentioned in hearings on 
the Pollard case. However, other people believe that it was an 
American, Jewish businessman. I don't believe it. I believe that 
"Mr. X" or "Mr. Y" or "Mr. Z" -- mystery people in the Pollard 
case, not previously identified -- included Foster, Caspar 
Weinberger the Secretary of Defense, and George Bush the Vice- 
President.

So if anyone committed treason, it was Weinberger, who *was* born 
a Jew but converted to another religion, and George Bush, who was 
fighting around with Israel.


CONSPIRACY NATION:
All right, goin' back to... You mentioned that the *Washington 
Post*, today, has got a front-page story. Have you seen that 
story?


SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
No. It was just read to me by Israeli Radio. (I guess that's 
their national radio.) I was interviewed by a Mr. Aryeh Golan. It 
was part of a story by a woman named, I believe, Susan Smith -- 
who was *not* the one that interviewed me. A Mr. Serge Kovalesky, 
who apparently is of Russian extraction, interviewed me a couple 
of weeks ago. And I told him, "Look. There's *more* to this." And 
he said he'd call me back. And I never got such a call, whether 
directly or on my answering machine.

And this woman who's got this as a series, high up in her story 
about different conspiracy theories on the death of Foster -- *I* 
never talked to her, that I know of.

And, the story is incomplete and unfair, and I don't think they 
want to know about the Caspar Weinberger, George Bush connection 
*to* Foster to Pollard. Because it would mean that the other 
ones, higher up, are moreso guilty of treason than Pollard was.

                   [...to be continued...]

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