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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 5 Num. 20
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              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 5  Num. 20
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RADIO FREE AMERICA -- JUNE 12, 1995
Part of statements made by Tom Valentine, host of *Radio Free 
America* (shortwave, 5.065 MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst), on Monday, 
June 12, 1995. {1}.

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TOM VALENTINE:
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to *Radio Free America*.

And as I have already observed in the first hour of this show -- 
by the way, this show comes in three 1-hour segments. As I've 
already observed, this week is like a huge balloon that is being 
filled up: they keep blowin' it up and blowin' it up, 
increasing... *pow*! It's gonna bust out all over. Things are, 
just seem to be: something's gotta bust.

For example, the Oklahoma bombing story is so incomplete. And 
there's misinformation coming out now, and I'm tryin' to get it 
straight. But *we* know, thanks to David Hall and KPOC-TV in 
Ponca City, Oklahoma, that John Doe #2 is alive and well in 
Tulsa, Oklahoma, and they could go arrest him any time. But they 
won't.

And, we know for a fact that Tim McVeigh and Mr. Nichols, who are 
being held on these charges, of this bombing, didn't have the 
wherewithal -- ten grand or so [$10,000] -- to rent the truck, 
and stay in the motels, and build the bomb. Where'd they get the 
money!? Could it have come from John Doe #2?

And *now* I understand, from a caller in the first hour (I don't 
*know* this, but some of you might be able to fill me in on it 
later), the Oklahoma City television is saying that John Doe #2 
is an Iraqi! I think that's mis-information. We will find out. 
I've gotta get a call in to David [Hall] and see what he thinks 
of that. And I will.

But John Doe #2 did, for a fact, two years ago, serve as an 
informant for the ATF. The plot is thick. It can't get a heck of 
a lot thicker. Just like Lee Harvey Oswald had his Jack Ruby, 
*what* will we have now, on the Oklahoma bombing story?

And of course the media, except for the Oklahoma City television 
and the Ponca City television and the *Spotlight* (Mike Blair) -- 
the media's not really doing its job. And you *know* there are 
journalists out there that are chomping at the bit to tell the 
story, and they're being suppressed.

It's just like that balloon! It just keeps fillin' up with air, 
the skin of the balloon gets thinner and thinner, and then, 
finally -- *kapow*.

And then we have the other one! We have the hearings, scheduled 
again. The hearings on the militia and on terrorism in America 
and on what's wrong. We wanna hear. And we're gonna hear, of 
course, from the ADL [Anti-Defamation League] and all of their 
set-up organizations that have so much influence with law and so 
forth. But we're also gonna have to hear from the militia people 
themselves. That includes John Trochman from the Militia of 
Montana, and Bob Fletcher, and John DeCamp, attorney, who's 
arranging it all. And, of course, Mark Koernke is supposed to be 
there, they tell me. And our man LeRoy, from Springfield, 
Massachusetts, is supposed to be there. They have re-scheduled it 
-- maybe -- for this coming Thursday [6/15] -- again -- the Arlen 
Specter Committee -- on again, off again. (These guys haven't got 
the kind of money to keep flying to Washington for nothin'!)

So, anyway, I haven't talked with John DeCamp directly. But they 
*are* scheduled, they are *tentatively* scheduled, for this 
Thursday -- again -- on C-Span. We shall see.

I keep getting letters from Mark Soames(sp?), who's been a guest 
on this show. He's out in San Diego. And *he's* watching this 
like a hawk, and has been for years, ever since the ADL spied on 
him and wire-tapped him with the FBI's help -- and for no reason. 
(He told the whole story here on the air.) He says that Orrin 
Hatch seems to be "the fly in the ointment." Senator Orrin Hatch 
doesn't *want* these hearings: doesn't *want* Waco hearings, 
doesn't *want* Ruby Ridge hearings, on Randy Weaver. Doesn't 
*want* things to come out. Why!? I thought Orrin Hatch was a good 
guy! That he was the "help freedom act" guy. I think all of the 
people out there ought to start calling [phone: (202) 224-5251; 
fax: (202) 224-6331] and writing Orrin Hatch and saying, "Are 
*you* the reason we haven't had good hearings!? Are *you* the one 
that's holding this back? Why!? How come Arlen Specter's trying 
to hold a hearing and *you* keep sticking your... fly in the 
ointment!?" (Well not *his* fly, but *a* fly, in the ointment.) I 
think we ought to let Orrin Hatch know that we're on to him. 
Orrin: straighten up.

I'm Tom Valentine. *This* is *Radio Free America*.

[...]

Now. One more thing before I go to the phones. We had... In the 
first hour, I had a caller who talked about the KFOR in Oklahoma 
City coming out with this great story about John Doe #2 being an 
Iraqi. And I... The first time I heard it, I said, "It smells, to 
me." For two reasons: one, David Hall has been a guest on this 
show and he's with a different television station. He didn't say 
a *word* about this guy being an Iraqi. And it just smells. 
Because Iraq is such an easy demon for the American propaganda 
mill. It's like Goebbels is working for the FBI right now.

And then, in the last hour: excellent caller from Oklahoma, Sue, 
pointing out that this KFOR really was doin' a good job and they 
had all the details on this guy and photographs and...

But during the news break, I made a phone call. And I chatted 
about it. It seems that the FBI *leaked* that story to KFOR. 
Well, I'll *guarantee* you it's a lie. I'll guarantee you that 
KFOR has been used; that the real story is the one that David 
Hall has told us: that John Doe #2 is in Tulsa and is not this 
guy that the FBI has handed to KFOR, and that they're tryin' to 
get a cover story as fast as they can.

Now isn't that *awful*? To sit there and look at your own federal 
police, the great FBI that we all grew up thinkin', oh, the "G- 
men" -- what was his name? {2}. The television guy. And all the 
FBI stories they've had on television. We always thought the FBI 
"always got their man" and everything else (sort of like the 
Royal Canadian Mounties). And to have our own FBI, leaking 
stories as dis-information to the public, at taxpayer expense, 
has to somehow really churn your stomach.

This government is so corrupt. And they wonder why the people are 
[unclear]. It's because we've had enough! Like I said in the 
first hour: this is the balloon. And circumstances have been 
blowing the balloon bigger and bigger and stretching that skin 
ever thinner. And it's *got* to pop.

---------------------------<< Notes >>---------------------------
{1} Sherman Skolnick had been tentatively scheduled but did not 
appear. I spoke to Mr. Skolnick this morning and inquired about 
as to "What happened? I thought you were supposed to be on *Radio 
Free America*?" His response was that it had slipped his mind.

{2} "...the 'G-men' -- what was his name?" May mean Efrem 
Zimbalist, jr., from the old TV show called "The FBI".

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