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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 4 Num. 66


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 4  Num. 66
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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SUMMARY OF INFO FROM CITIZENS' COMMITTEE -- APRIL 23, 1995
 
On April 23, 1995, I interviewed, by telephone, Mr. Sherman 
Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean-up the Courts 
[CCCC]. The following is my summary of that interview.
 
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For starters, let me say that the following is my report of what 
Mr. Skolnick says; I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with 
either all or portions of the following. Mr. Skolnick's direct 
statements are marked off by quotation marks. All else is either 
my own paraphrasing of Mr. Skolnick's statements or my own 
personal comments, et cetera.
 
[Mr. Skolnick's statements are in quotes.]
 
"Sixteen indictments were handed up from the federal grand jury 
in Little Rock on Monday, the 17th. April 17th. The indictments 
were sealed."
 
"Of those, we feel assured of the names of three of them, of the 
defendants."
 
"Ordinarily, in more routine matters, indictments are sealed for 
24 to 48 hours, so as to give the FBI and others a chance to find 
the defendants, serve the papers on 'em and arrest them, so that 
the defendants would then have to come... have to be brought to 
make bail bond and have a date set for an arraignment. That's the 
process."
 
"In other, more controversial cases, they're sealed by order of 
the chief judge of the district court of that district -- 
political cases, controversial cases -- which are then only 
released under the direction of the chief judge of the Justice 
Department. That is the arrangement."
 
"There have been instances where indictments have been kept 
sealed for as many as 70 years. Of course, that's a little 
ridiculous. But they tried to do the same thing regarding the 
indictment of Richard Nixon. He *was* indicted, and in *that* 
case it was *more* than that: the grand jury was ordered to take 
it back (which is illegal, to order the grand jury to do that)."
 
"But anyway, these 16 indictments were handed up from the grand 
jury on or about April 17th of this year."
 
"Those indicted were: Jim 'Guy' Tucker, the Arkansas Governor 
(the Lieutenant Governor has already told us that he is, more or 
less, already the Governor...); the second one is Thomas 'Mack' 
McLarty, former White House Chief of Staff, currently White House 
counsel, and former CEO of ARKLA, the natural gas public utility 
-- Oklahoma-Arkansas-and Louisiana; and the third indictment (of 
the 16 [indicted]) is Hillary Rodham Clinton, on two counts: bank 
fraud and obstruction of justice."
 
"The obstruction of justice count is based on, she ordered White 
House aide Foster's office to be cleared out and the contents to 
be delivered to her private quarters in the White House. (Webster 
Hubbell was involved in that.) She ordered them thereafter to 
destroy those records, which were being sought at the time by a 
federal magistrate in Little Rock, in the David Hale case. And 
she apparently believed that Hubbell *had* destroyed it [i.e., 
the records]. When Hubbell resigned from the third person in the 
Justice Department, he later was facing indictment and made a 
plea bargain with Kenneth Starr, the independent prosecutor. And 
to avoid jail, he turned those records over to the grand jury."
 
"And so, she was indicted on the second count, of obstruction of 
justice."
 
"She's now facing a third count, to be added to the indictment, 
based on Kenneth Starr, over this weekend, taking the sworn 
statement of both the President and the First Lady. And she 
apparently will be caught or has been caught with perjury. And so 
there will most likely be a third count to the indictment."
 
"Those are the three defendants, of the sixteen. Others, of the 
defendants, are reportedly also present or recent White House 
personnel that are involved in Clinton's problems. Sixteen in 
all."
 
NBC Nightly News, on Saturday, April 22nd, had a brief mention 
that Starr had visited the White House and taken sworn testimony 
from Bill and Hillary.
 
According to Skolnick, one of the counts against Hillary is 
related to alleged bank fraud involving Madison Guaranty Savings 
& Loan.
 
"The bank fraud count of the indictment against her, Hillary, 
involves mis-application of somewhere between $47 and $60 
million, or causing the loss thereof to the government, in 
respect to a federally-insured financial institution."
 
"And I think you know what's involved there: involved there is 
what we've already been working on for some time -- to try to 
patch that [Hillary's alleged bank fraud] up, the clandestine 
transfer, from Chicago, of $50 million from an RTC contingency 
fund, which the major claim on the fund was Joseph Andreuccetti. 
And that was taken out from under him, so to speak, and 
transferred to Little Rock to *try* to cover up the very thing 
for which Hillary, reportedly, has now been indicted! Bank 
fraud."
 
[My interview with Joseph Andreuccetti will appear in issue #1 of 
the Conspiracy Nation Newsletter. Address inquiries on how to get 
a copy of the Conspiracy Nation Newsletter to bigxc@prairienet.org]
 
How long are they going to keep these indictments sealed?
 
"In the ordinary course of things, the chief judge in that 
district *might* have unsealed them a few days thereafter [i.e., 
a few days after Monday, April 17th]. But two days thereafter, of 
course, as we all know, there was the bombing of the Murrah 
Federal Building in Oklahoma City."
 
"One of the 3 that have been arrested *or* suspected or accused 
[in connection with the bomb blast], is reportedly an undercover 
operative of the Drug Enforcement Agency. If the government is 
confronted with this fact -- as they may [be] -- they *may* say 
that this is one of their people that 'ran out of control' and 
that they are not responsible for him having bombed the federal 
building."
 
                   [...to be continued...]
 
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 Brian Francis Redman    bigxc@prairienet.org    "The Big C"
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