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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 4 Num. 65


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 4  Num. 65
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SUMMARY OF INFO FROM CITIZENS' COMMITTEE -- APRIL 20, 1995
 
On April 20, 1995, I interviewed, by telephone, Mr. Sherman 
Skolnick of the Citizens' Committee to Clean-up the Courts 
[CCCC]. The following is my summary of that interview.
 
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Before beginning the summary of my recent interview, a late- 
breaking item I got via shortwave (penetrating the cone of 
silence over Champaign, Illinois) has it that, according to a 
seismograph at the University of Oklahoma, *two* "seismic 
disturbances", coinciding with the Oklahoma City bomb blast, were 
registered. The *two* "seismic events" occurred seven seconds 
apart and are indicative of there having been *two* bomb blasts. 
(Note: Do not be intimidated by typical knee-jerk denials, 
disguised as intellectual techno-speak and designed to confuse us 
mere mortals.)
 
The info on the University of Oklahoma seismographic data was 
broadcast on WWCR, 5.065 Mhz, 7 pm - 8 pm cst, on a show called 
"Intelligence Report".
 
After monitoring Skolnick's recorded commentary on the Oklahoma 
bomb blast, I phoned the offices of the Citizens' Committee and 
was fortunate to talk with Mr. Skolnick himself.
 
According to Skolnick, a *demolition-type* charge was designed to 
take out the nine floors. He has consulted with engineering 
experts who confirm this.
 
The building was almost entirely unprotected. "Someone could have 
got in there the night before and drilled some holes [in] the 
concrete-reinforced pillars and put in some plastique." There are 
indications that someone blew up the pillars.
 
Was there a parking garage in the building? If so, a vehicle 
could've got in there -- a car or a truck bomb.
 
The April 19th date of the blast provides a *false* *trail* to 
the Branch Davidians and/or to militia groups.
 
I asked about possible Arab involvement. "I think that's another 
smokescreen," replied Skolnick. So, whoever did this has got two 
false trails, leading to two potential "patsies": Arabs and 
"angry white males".
 
According to Skolnick, if the Iranians are involved, they could 
get away with it because former President Bush's people still 
comprise 70 percent or more of the Clinton Justice Department. 
Because of the October Surprise imbroglio, the Justice Department 
would be likely to act to protect Bush as well as other people 
still holding high office in the U.S. government. "If Iranians 
did it, George Bush forces would be inclined to cover that up," 
claims Skolnick.
 
Clinton is a stooge for larger financial interests. So, "in order 
to keep him there and use him for their financial gain, they do 
certain things... They *apparently* have an interest in some of 
this violence [for example, the murders of witnesses connected to 
the Whitewater behemoth of scandals]... And Clinton is a puppet. 
He knows who's pulling the strings... But the one's who are 
pulling the strings don't necessarily tell him, 'Look. We're 
gonna have to commit some terrible violence to change around the 
focus of America away from the falling dollar, and the hang-up in 
Congress, and all this budget problem.'"
 
Skolnick adds that, "Financial experts that I talk to (that see 
your stories, worldwide, by the way, and have gotten to know me), 
they claim that we're reaching a possible 'panic point' with the 
drop of the dollar as against the yen and the deutschmark. And 
that, therefore, all these things seem to be converging."
 
Skolnick's sources inform him that April-May is often a 
particularly volatile period in the financial markets.
 
"Whoever is behind the bombing has got a number of things. And 
like the murder of JFK in Dallas, there are a number of false 
trails; they may come up with one or two 'patsies' who quickly 
will be either jailed, or murdered in the jail."
 
"I mean," continues Mr. Skolnick, "there's Rush Limbaugh stirring 
up people; I heard him on the radio today. He's saying, 'Well, if 
some other country authorized this -- even if we're not sure 
about it -- we should bomb them away.' Geez. I mean, we got 
weirdos out there that are trying to direct foreign policy. And 
Clinton is powerless and so the country is going, like, without a 
captain."
 
Who benefits? "The bombing *does* tend to get people patriotic 
and support the central government."
 
"They're coming to a decision, *soon*, whether Hillary is or is 
not going to be indicted. And so right while *that's* boiling, 
this federal building blows up."
 
"Various people are wondering what Constitutional rights we will 
have to surrender, in order to feel 'more safe' in public 
buildings, you know."
 
And, in fact, the Intelligence Report [WWCR, 5.065 Mhz, 7 pm cst] 
suggested this same thing on their April 20th broadcast: that 
there will be a push toward a national I.D. card so that we can 
"protect our borders". Like in old movies out of World War II, 
the secret police will be demanding, "Where are your papers? You 
know, you *must* have your papers!"
 
Nothing new under the sun: "There seems to be a vast cover-up 
(I'm sorry to say)," says Skolnick, "similar to the murder of 
Kennedy. They're searchin' round for a patsy; they're gonna 
deliver him up to the television in time for the evening news or 
something."
 
"They're trying to put this image in the public mind that, you 
know, that 'Arab-Americans are dangerous.' And some Arab- 
Americans have gotten on the radio, and so on, and said that they 
are as loyal as any other American."
 
"The other thing is, remember what the fire chief in Oklahoma 
City said. And the press -- the TV *used* it, but they didn't 
make anything of it. And he said that, on the Friday prior to the 
bombing, that he and the police chief and the FBI people in 
Oklahoma City *all* *knew*, from certain sources, that three or 
more 'mideast types' were on the way to Oklahoma City to do some, 
something that might be dangerous. In other words, terrorism. 
*Yet*, there was no precautions made."
 
The media stories are not put together to make any sense. 
"They're like a 'big blob'; some 'mysterious force' out there is 
threatening all Americans. And I guess they want it like that, so 
that Americans will approve of some 'iron fist', some repression 
against them."
 
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 Brian Francis Redman    bigxc@prairienet.org    "The Big C"
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