
              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 4  Num. 54
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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INTERVIEW WITH SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- APRIL 4, 1995
 
On April 4, 1995, I interviewed Mr. Sherman Skolnick of the 
Citizens' Committee to Clean-up the Courts [CCCC] by telephone. 
The following is my transcription of that interview. Note that in 
this interview I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with 
either all or some of the statements of Mr. Skolnick.
   -- Brian Francis Redman, Editor-in-chief, Conspiracy Nation
 
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK [continues]:
So you can understand... In other words, another guy that was 
right up there, as associate attorney general, third-in-command, 
who resigned to face federal charges, was Webster Hubbell -- who 
we believe is fingering Hillary, and that may be the basis for an 
indictment.
 
I'm not saying that anybody (anybody outside of Kenneth Starr 
himself) is certain as to whether Hillary will or will not be 
indicted on federal criminal charges of embezzlement and 
obstruction of justice. I mean, they're *considering* the thing. 
And it has to be taken into consideration that all of this is 
happening while these secret societies (that the press doesn't 
discuss) are about to meet (like the Bilderberg Group), and while 
the dollar is practically in a free-fall in the yen market, and 
while all these other things are happening.
 
I mean, in other words, in that context you have to consider: 
maybe Kenneth Starr is afraid to proceed, on the basis that 
indicting Hillary will put such pressure on the President and on 
the Clinton White House that foreign allies of the United States 
will lose total confidence in the U.S. dollar, which would then, 
supposedly, go into a free-fall. And maybe that's one of the 
things that they're considering in hesitating to indict Hillary.
 
And I just find it more than coincidental that Hillary, just at 
the point of these rumors of a grand jury subpoena "runnin' after 
her", that she's out of the country, beyond the federal 
jurisdiction for the moment.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, well that's my tandem observation: that she also may be 
wanting to do something nice for her daughter, just in case she's 
about to go to jail, it might be kind of a nice thing on her 
part. Because she would have a natural affection towards her 
daughter, as compared to, she may have no real affection towards 
Bill.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
All these stories... I mean, Gennifer Flowers' book is coming 
out. And when you saw her on the television, whatever opinion 
someone formed during the '92 election, Gennifer Flowers appears 
to be quite reasonable. She's a journalist (many people didn't 
know that), previously. The press, uh "Hard Copy", that 
controversial TV show, showed her briefly. They did not quite 
make it clear whether she was a print journalist or a TV 
journalist. But she claims that, starting in '77, when Clinton 
was a state attorney general in Arkansas -- for 12 years 
thereafter, she was his mistress. And that she's *appalled* that 
the same one that was her *lover*, is now the President and seeks 
to lie about something that she can prove.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Okay. I wanted to make double-certain about something that you 
had said. Foster's death, I think we both agree that it's highly 
suspicious. And if it was a suicide, it at least did not occur at 
Fort Marcy Park.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well, yeah. The point is, notice the oddity: according to stories 
in the London *Sunday Telegraph* and a few other papers (but not 
in all the major papers in the United States), Starr's people 
subpoenaed key witnesses from the Park Police and the FBI. And in 
a rare move, *warned* them, before they went in to the grand 
jury, they were read the federal perjury law, as a warning: "Hey. 
You don't tell the truth behind the unmarked door, you may go to 
jail for perjury!"
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
But then they "took the fifth", right? {1}
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well. What goes on behind the unmarked, federal grand jury door 
is supposed to be secret. But if they *there* took the Fifth 
Amendment or not, is speculative. How can we know? It hasn't been 
revealed.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
It seemed to me I heard somethin', that they had been...
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yes. There are stories circulating, like that. There is a lot of 
information that is leaking out. And what has happened is, 
[Rupert] Murdoch, who I believe is the owner of the London 
*Sunday Telegraph*, wants to throttle back the British writer, 
who is named Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, situated in Little Rock, 
who has gotten a lot of inside information. And other, much 
lesser journalists, are apparently now privy to some of the 
inside information that Pritchard used to get. In other words, 
Pritchard's stories, in recent weeks, were not that revealing. 
And knowledgeable journalists here, and in England and elsewhere, 
are commenting that Murdoch has ordered Pritchard "throttled 
back". It may well be that, at some point, he'll recall him from 
Little Rock.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Why would Murdoch do that?
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Murdoch has got hundreds of millions of dollars involved in his 
communications monopoly. He needs the blessings of both the 
Democrats and the Republicans. And his newspaper, the London 
*Sunday Telegraph*, has been scandalizing the Clintons repeatedly 
with inside information. And, after all, Clinton still has quite 
a control, through Janet Reno and others, of the Justice 
Department. And they could stop Murdoch, or cause him great delay 
and expense, by accusing him of various anti-trust situations. In 
some cities, they have given him an exemption -- the FCC has. 
Under law... There's some kind of a law, regarding the FCC, that 
they cannot have a major newspaper and a major TV station in the 
same market, owned by the same people. In some markets, they've 
granted an exemption -- like the *Tribune*, and others. But 
apparently, at one point NBC was fighting Murdoch on the basis 
that he's a foreigner, and shouldn't be granted certain rights. 
Murdoch has claimed that he's now an American citizen. But his 
company, NewsCorp, is a foreign-owned company. And the FCC, and 
NBC, until just recently have been fighting Murdoch. And I 
*gather* that NBC backed off, and the FCC backed off -- 
apparently on orders from the Clinton Justice Department. And 
therefore, Murdoch is calling off his dog. In other words, in so 
many words, he's telling Pritchard, "Will ya back off!? Get off 
Clinton's back."
 
So... because the Clinton Justice Department and so on is in a 
position to cost Murdoch hundreds of millions of dollars in 
expenses if they start bothering him on anti-trust and other 
legal problems.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
All right, but let me just clarify this one point you had made 
before. We agree, I think, between us, that Fiske's report on 
Foster's death was a whitewash, right?
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
It had to be a whitewash! Because Fiske, before he was appointed, 
by the Justice Department... See, Kenneth Starr was not appointed 
by the Justice Department. He was appointed by a special three- 
judge panel, set up under the independent counsel law. Fiske was 
not set up under that special law. He was given the title of, 
*so-called*, "independent counsel" by the Clinton Justice 
Department, which is... he isn't that independent. And 
previously, Fiske was involved in covering up aspects of the 
rogue bank, BCCI; that part has been published. So he had a 
built-in conflict of interest -- Fiske -- and was inclined to go 
along with covering up Foster, because Foster and Hillary were 
the attorneys that arranged for BCCI to penetrate the American 
market!
 
So, I mean, Fiske was inclined to cover the whole thing up!
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
All right, and so, that's a whitewash. And you're saying that 
Starr is, Starr is gonna say what? That Foster's death *was* a 
suicide?
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Some journalists are commenting on the fact that alleged stories 
had leaked out that Starr was gonna uphold what Fiske said, that 
Foster was a suicide. The *delay* in doing that, and calling 
Foster's children before the grand jury (which had not, 
apparently, been done previous), leads some to believe that Starr 
would not so easily uphold the suicide theory.
 
Also, the London *Sunday Telegraph*, in their March 19th, '95 
issue, refers to a highly-sensitive and confidential matters in a 
secret FBI file. And to give the **number** of it (which has not 
been previously known), and, so that... When you consider the 
whole thing -- about Sheila Anthony being a top official (that's 
Foster's sister, uh sister-in-law): she was a top official in the 
Justice Department that helped select U.S. Marshalls, federal 
judges and prosecutors, and all that -- you could see the whole 
situation uh, there was a built-in conflict of interest!
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. There's also just too many discrepancies between the actual 
evidence and things that Fiske had ignored.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
There's all kinds of things. The coroner is, to many, seems to be 
fraudulent. I mean, he made a statement that he x-rayed Foster's 
head, to see which way the bullet went? And then later, he said, 
"The x-ray wasn't needed, and besides which, my x-ray machine" 
(which was a *new* machine) "had not been working for 2 weeks." 
How come he didn't get it repaired? How come he didn't send the 
body over to a *nearby* hospital to be x-rayed?
 
I mean, there's all...
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. And there's no bone fragments found.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Yeah, there's all these... not that much blood on the ground; 
they leaked an apparent fraudulent picture, to be used on ABC 
Evening "News" with Peter Jennings; ABC has apparently gone along 
with this cover-up; etcetera. I mean, there's something wrong, 
all the way around.
 
And the point is, what they're all worried about, to me seems 
obvious: they're worried that *if* it comes out, that Foster's 
death was *not* a suicide, then Clinton and his wife become 
accomplices to murder -- simply by trying to cover it up! They 
didn't have to order the murder; they didn't have to pick up the 
gun and personally shoot their alleged "friend", Foster -- but 
just by covering it up, under law, they become accomplices and 
they're... I think, accomplices to murder *can* *be* a capital 
offense! In any case, it would topple the government, okay? 
Topple the government, at a time when the dollar is going to the 
devil.
 
[...]
 
I predict, within 30 days of the meeting of the Bilderberg 
Society, it is likely that something dramatic will happen, 
regarding the Clinton White House.
 
 
-------------------------<< Notes >>-----------------------------
{1} "Took the fifth" -- This basically means that they 
(supposedly) refused to answer questions on the grounds that 
their answers might tend to incriminate themselves. The "fifth" 
in the phrase, "took the fifth", refers to the Fifth Amendment to 
the Constitution of the united States, which offers this 
protection against self-incrimination.
 
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