	id AA08896; Fri, 17 Mar 95 18:34:16 CST
Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 4 Num. 34


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 4  Num. 34
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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INTERVIEW WITH SHERMAN SKOLNICK -- MARCH 15, 1995
 
On March 15, 1995, I interviewed Mr. Sherman Skolnick of the 
Citizens' Committee to Clean-up the Courts [CCCC] by telephone. 
The following is my transcription of that interview. Note that in 
this interview I neither necessarily agree nor disagree with 
either all or some of the statements of Mr. Skolnick.
   -- Brian Francis Redman, Editor-in-chief, Conspiracy Nation
 
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK [continues]:
And I used to be on... I had my own radio show. I was on 
practically every week for 40 seconds or so on the evening news 
on something that I was involved in. It was common to hold press 
conferences on the lawn in front of my house at the drop of a 
hat. I was popular with the media.
 
But when I started to investigate who the *media* is, I got 
blanked out.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
And so I started Hotline News as a recorded commentary [(312) 
731-1100]. And now it's one of the biggest of its kind. It's not 
a 900 number; it's a regular phone number.
 
And *then*, in February '91, I got to know a guy that was doing 
access, public access TV shows. And our Monday night show 
apparently is so popular that we blank out three commercial 
stations: channel 2 [CBS], 9 [WGN], and 32 [Fox], who lose 
advertising dollars because of us! Their ratings are down, ours 
are up. We got an estimated half a million people watching our 
show, yet the radio and TV editor of the newspapers *never*, 
never, never says a single word that we exist at all. We're 
invisible.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. Along the lines of the media, one of your commentaries talks 
about murdered reporters.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Such as Jim Hogan, and...
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Not *Jim* Hogan, Paul Hogan.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Paul Hogan. O.K.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Paul Hogan. And a friend of mine was murdered on, right before 
the 4th of July in 1970 -- Ted Smart. I spent a *lot* of time 
investigating that. He was murdered. Made to look like a 
drowning, but they killed him.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. Could you, do you have any additional information on that?
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well, those that I've mentioned -- Louie Lomax, Larry Buckman -- 
I've mentioned some of those. We've also done a story, which 
we'll re-run one of these days, on our recorded message, of the 
*judges* that were murdered. Oh, there's been a number of judges 
that... There was a judge in uh, Judge William E. Miller, I 
believe his name was, in the federal appeals court in Cincinnati, 
that was, that gave an indication during an oral presentation of 
an appeal, that he was gonna re-open the James Earl Ray case, to 
show conspiracy of the government. He never lived to it. He died 
while writing the decision. And the other two judges that were 
part of the panel made the gratuitous statement that Judge 
Miller, although dead, went along with *their* view that the case 
should be kept closed.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. I know that this is...
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
There's a number of... The original trial judge in the James Earl 
Ray case was found laying dead at his desk. And under his body 
was laying James Earl Ray's petition to re-open the case -- Judge 
Preston Battle(sp?), the Memphis judge that had sentenced Ray. 
And so on.
 
There's been... In other words, a judge that goes *against* the 
grain and tries to be honest, in a political murder case and so 
on, is generally himself murdered.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. You know, a lot of people that read this are...
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Skeptical.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, O.K.?
 
And I know that I'm really just asking you these things out of 
the blue, so that, as far as say, with Jim Hogan, anything...
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Paul Hogan.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah, I'm sorry. I've got it written down here "Jim" -- Paul 
Hogan.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well his relatives agree with me. But you don't hear their 
viewpoints in the popular press.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Harold Washington's relatives agree with me, but cannot go public 
with it because of insurance policy money.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
So, I mean, you mean whether I mind being called a liar? Every 
judge that our group was instrumental in sending to jail started 
out by getting a press conference and calling Skolnick a liar. 
And I don't mind. I could give you a long list of those that 
called me a liar that end up ex-convicts. And one of 'em, the 
chief judge of the traffic court, I interviewed him on tape in 
his office. He said that what I said about his corruption -- I 
brought 28 witnesses to accuse him -- he says, "Skolnick, I heard 
you imagine things," -- he just got out of jail, an ex-convict, 
convicted of bribery. So what else should I have to say?
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
No. What I'm just sayin' is...
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
In other words, I'm very careful... Our group is very careful. 
We're not in politics. We don't accuse anybody for small reason; 
we have no... we aren't gonna get anything out of it.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. What's goin' on with Whitewater? Do ya have any...
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
I've just finished a story that I faxed to one of the smaller 
magazines that asked me to write what is known about Whitewater 
-- the entire picture. And they're supposed to go to press with 
it within a week. I just faxed it to them this morning, 
coincidentally.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. You had said before that they're going after Clinton, Gore, 
and Gingrich -- all three of 'em, the press is goin' after 'em. 
And it doesn't seem to me that they're goin' after Gore that 
much.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Well, I told ya the story of how I was 6 months ahead of the 
parade...
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
...on the Spiro Agnew thing. We're ahead of the parade on the 
Gore thing. Only the *St. Louis Post-Dispatch*, last April, used 
a watered-down version of our details of the corruption in the 
milk bovine situation involving Monsanto Chemical, that huge 
company.
 
And Gore has had a great influence on the FDA. It was his wife 
Tipper's relative, Michael R. Taylor, that was a top deputy of 
the FDA. He was formerly the outside chief counsel of Monsanto, 
the makers of this controversial chemical that makes cows give 
more milk, but causes infection to get into the milk, O.K.?
 
And you're saying, "When will that come out?" -- It's not *up* to 
me.
 
The *Washington Post*, however, 6 weeks after I went on a radio 
show talking about it, ran a story that the, Monsanto, actually 
had *five* other people working inside the FDA as officials of 
the FDA! So... And that a congressman from Vermont was -- 
Sanders, I believe his name was -- was investigating that. He's 
one of the few independents in Congress.
 
In other words, you're wondering *when*? Hey. I'm not calling the 
shots on the secret agenda of who gets knocked down. I mean, I 
predicted it accurately in '73 that Agnew was "going to the wall" 
first, and *then* Nixon, and then they're gonna bring in the new 
team without an election. Which was Gerald Ford, and then-Vice- 
President Nelson Rockefeller.
 
They're pushing for Jay Rockefeller to be the new President, 
without an election.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. You answered my question... It was just... As soon as you 
answered, somethin' "clicked" in my mind. I said, "Oh yeah! O.K."
 
So fine. That's satisfactory as far as I'm concerned.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Gingrich is the third-in-line. And notice that, even though he's 
a Republican, they're lambasting him about book contracts, about 
foundations he was connected with. They want to get rid of all 
three of 'em: Clinton, Gore, and Gingrich.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
And the next in order of accession, is that Rockefeller then?
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
No, if the first three of 'em get knocked down, under the 25th 
amendment then, I think it's up to Congress to select somebody.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
And Congress can be bought, and so they would put in Jay 
Rockefeller. Read the 25th amendment and reach your own 
conclusion.
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
O.K. And so, when you say Congress can be bought, that relates to 
a commentary where you had mentioned the bribery of one-hundred 
eight...
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Right. Right. I... Only a right-wing newspaper would run a story 
that I did...
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
You mean *The Spotlight*.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Right. I don't agree with their politics, but they ran my story 
without butchering it up -- verbatim, O.K.? Friends of mine 
criticize me because they say, "Well, but their politics are no 
good."
 
I says, "Well, publish it in *Time* magazine then!!"
 
 
CONSPIRACY NATION:
Yeah. You know, I get the *same* *thing*. Because I read *The 
Spotlight* -- O.K.? -- and I don't always agree with their 
politics but, and yet they have information that I can't get!
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
I vigorously disagree with their policy that there was no 
Holocaust. My family got lost in the Warsaw ghetto -- I mean, 
come on!
 
But the point is, they print my stories verbatim. Give me a 
choice! Put it on Internet. *You're* an alternative.
 
But what was the story about: of the four largest news agencies 
in the world -- O.K.? -- all four had a record that was an open 
record with the Bank of England for 30 days only: the bribery 
list of BCCI. They had bribed various public officials in various 
countries, *including*... They had *bought* 25 percent of both 
Houses of Congress. They wanted congressmen to allow them to 
proliferate their bank in various branches throughout the United 
States. And they needed various committees of Congress to "O.K." 
them. O.K.?
 
                   [...to be continued...]
 
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