	id AA03820; Wed, 16 Nov 94 09:59:24 CST
Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2 Num. 83


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2  Num. 83
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[CN -- The following does not necessarily reflect the views of 
Conspiracy Nation. It merely reports what was said elsewhere.]
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK INTERVIEW -- THE JOLIET CONNECTION
 
Sherman Skolnick was interviewed on *Radio Free America* 
(Shortwave, 5.065 MHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on October 20, 1994. 
Mr. Skolnick is a veteran investigative reporter from Chicago and 
founder of the "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts" in 
that city. Following is my transcription of that interview. 
Host/Interviewer is Tom Valentine.
 
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[Awesome sounds of John Phillip Souza's "Stars and Stripes Forever"]
 
ANNOUNCER:
It's *Radio Free America*, the talk show for intelligent 
Americans, with your host, Tom Valentine.
 
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And now, the newspaper that "tells it like it is" presents Tom 
Valentine.
 
 
TOM VALENTINE:
Hello, everybody! Welcome back, to *Radio Free America*.
 
In this hour, we are going to reach up to Chicago and bring back 
an old friend and a fellow who's been a guest on this show 
several times. He is the founder and director of the Committee to 
Clean Up the Courts, in Chicago. A non-establishment institution, 
a citizens' group, if you please, that has a lot of feathers in 
their war bonnet. They have, they've done some notable things. 
The most notable probably being the arrest and jailing of the 
former Governor and a former federal judge of Illinois, who ended 
up dying in jail, Otto Kerner.
 
And that fellow, of course, is Sherman Skolnick. And Sherman, 
welcome back to *Radio Free America*.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
Welcome, Tom, and I'm pleased to be on with your listeners again. 
And I hope they find this very interesting. I've got... We're 
going to discuss a very timely subject.
 
 
VALENTINE:
All right. Go ahead. I'm gonna let you cut loose.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
On October 18th, Tuesday, the *Wall Street Journal* finally ran a 
story about things that some of us have known about, the Mena 
cover-up. That is, the dope and money that was going through the 
Mena, Arkansas airport and made Arkansas awash with cash.
 
What the *Wall Street Journal* is in a position to know is that 
the dope transit point, which *was* in western Arkansas, in a 
forest -- that is, the Mena, Arkansas airport -- has been 
transferred to just south of Chicago. And due to a series of 
situations which I will do my best to outline, as briefly 
summarize as I can, it is operating now, south of Chicago, in 
Joliet!
 
They're using similar apparatuses to "wash" the dope money that's 
coming in: they're using a local development company; they're 
using various brokers and banks to "wash" the large sums of 
money.
 
Now involved in the situation was a building in Joliet where a 
lot of federal loan money, loan applications, were kept. And it 
was part of the apparatus of "washing" the dope money.
 
But before I get into that, let me just tell briefly how it came 
in. It came in by barge, up the waterway from New Orleans to the 
Des Plaines River basin, past a place called Moose Island. And 
we'll get back to that Moose Island connection in a moment.
 
Also, airplanes came in with the dope (protected from 
interference by law enforcement people, by the way). Airplanes 
came into the Joliet Municipal Airport, among others.
 
Now what happened was, early in the '80s, a secret unit of the 
U.S. Treasury Department began an investigation of this and 
related matters. However, their investigation was ordered stopped 
by one of the espionage agencies, either the CIA or the NSA, on 
reasons of (quote) "national security" (unquote). Because what 
was being brought in, in large quantities, flooding in through 
Joliet and then being distributed across the country, was a 
superior narcotic called "China White". It comes from the Laos, 
Burma, Thailand, "Golden Triangle" connection. And the supposed 
explanation by the espionage agencies was that high-level members 
of the Chinese secret police are operating in the United States 
as scientists and technicians, and that the espionage agencies 
have got to stop the Treasury from interfering and investigating 
this because, for reasons of national security, they want to keep 
track of these people -- even though they're bringing in dope!
 
Now what happened...
 
 
VALENTINE:
That sounds pretty hokey. You mean the Treasury bought it?
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Uh, no. No, they continued to investigate, and what happened was, 
they got into a terrible crunch with these other federal 
espionage agencies. What happened was, nobody in the media would 
aid them. So they turned over their entire office of records, an 
entire truckload, to an independent investigation group.
 
I became aware of all this; I made a summary of what is in the 
records. And I went and found, I went and demanded a meeting.
 
 
VALENTINE:
O.K. Hold on right there, Sherman. We'll be back. You got the... 
You found out about this and demanded a meeting. My guest is 
Sherman Skolnick. The dope point of America. I'll be right back. 
I'm Tom Valentine, *Radio Free America*.
 
[...commercial break...]
 
We are back, live. It's *Radio Free America*. And I'm talking 
with Sherman Skolnick. We're talking now about a major 
investigation in our so-called "war on drugs". Evidently, the 
"war on drugs" takes time out for official drug dealing and drug 
money laundering. But if it's unofficial, well then they'll make 
war on it.
 
Go ahead, Sherman. You were tellin' us how a group in Chicago 
came about this truckload of documents.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
O.K. On October 6th of this year, I demanded a meeting with the 
highest federal official in this part of the country that I could 
find. I ended up meeting with Mark Prosperi(sp?), chief of the 
organized crime/drug enforcement task force, together with the 
secretary of the U.S. attorney in this district -- that is, the 
secretary to the chief federal prosecutor here.
 
I met with them for 35 minutes and I told them that this drug 
racketeering operation involved 4 federal judges, 2 congressmen, 
the former Governor, Jim Thompson, and people connected with the 
Clinton White House. After 35 minutes of summarizing this, he 
unceremoniously stood up, told me he's not interested, and in so 
many words told me to mind my own business. And he left me there 
in the office and walked out the door.
 
Now what we know from these records is, namely, that one of those 
that facilitated it was a fellow named Robert Teezak(sp?), who 
was a crony of George Herbert Walker Bush, the federal judges, 
Jim Thompson, and *others*.
 
And the records that relate to this, of the "washing" of the 
money, were kept in a building in Joliet called the Private 
Industry Council. And in 1987, because local citizens from Joliet 
were complaining to the DEA, the Drug Enforcement Agency, about 
what they were observing happening, the U.S. attorney here at the 
time, Anton R. Valukis(sp?) began a supposed grand jury 
investigation. And issued a subpoena returnable on a certain 
Monday.
 
On the Friday preceding that, the building housing all these 
federal records was burned down! O.K.? It was burned down by 
Robert Teezak. And I will point out what happened, in a moment, 
with that.
 
Now Teezak is a crony of Bush, the former Governor, Anton 
Valukis, and others. In Chicago, in the early '80s, the U.S. 
attorney here, the chief federal prosecutor, was Dan K. Webb. He 
was succeeded by Anton R. Valukis. Both of 'em close cronies of 
George Bush. In fact Dan Webb (some may remember) was an 
assistant special prosecutor in the Iran-Contra thing, and took 
the deposition of Ronald Reagan, and was involved very much in 
the Admiral Poindexter case.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Isn't he also now a defense team for Rostenkowski?
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Yes...
 
 
VALENTINE:
All right.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
...the same Dan Webb.
 
Now he was the private attorney for Robert Teezak. And in the 
'80s, when Webb was the U.S. attorney, he violated the law by 
being, reportedly, the private attorney for Teezak at the same 
time that Webb was the U.S. attorney and should have *prosecuted* 
somebody!
 
Now one of the apparatuses that they used -- to facilitate the 
arrangement of the dope shipments -- was a company owned by 
Teezak, headquartered in Joliet and in the Grand Caymans, called 
International Games, Incorporated. They distributed games, 
purportedly manufactured in Hong Kong and other places in the 
Orient. And Teezak, who lived on Moose Island -- uh, keep that 
name in mind. By the way, the building where the records were 
kept was called the Moose Building. The Private Industry Council 
building was the Moose Building, in Joliet.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Is Moose Island right there in the Illinois River, in downtown 
Joliet?
 
 
SKOLNICK:
I don't know about downtown. It's near a suburb called 
Chanahan(sp?).
 
 
VALENTINE:
All right.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
The one that owns Moose Island is Teezak and his business 
partner, an auto dealer, John Bays(sp?).
 
Now what happened was, the Treasury unit, by continuing to 
investigate, caused this grand jury subpoena to be issued by the 
U.S. attorney. However when the building with the records that 
they sought... And they were, what was in the building were 
records that related to federally supported loans -- loans of the 
SBA [Small Business Administration], HUD, Comprehensive 
Employment Training Act, and so on -- those records were in that 
building, and that building was burned down by Teezak.
 
                   [...to be continued...]
 
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