	id AA24126; Sat, 15 Oct 94 15:50:01 CDT
Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2 Num. 46


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2  Num. 46
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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FROM MISERY TO POVERTY WITH DIGNITY
 
CN Editor -- While true that in the past I have critiqued a local 
radio show called "News from Neptune", I also have noted that the 
show is consistently above average and that I often listen to it.
 
The following gem has met the high standards of Conspiracy 
Nation. It is excerpted from the October 15, 1994, "News from 
Neptune". Co-hosts are Paul "The Truth" Mueth and Carl "Dr. 
Snarl" Estabrook.
 
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PAUL MUETH:
The popular movement *is* really the threat. And Aristide didn't 
*want* to run, he was asked to run by the popular movement.
 
 
CARL ESTABROOK:
Absolutely right. That's the only way he got in. He would have 
been neutralized, I think, by U.S. policy had he *not* turned up 
at the last minute to run in 1990.
 
 
MUETH:
Yeah. You were recounting the *National Catholic Reporter*'s 
article of September 30th, which someone last week brought to my 
attention to, that recounts the story of the conversation between 
Aristide and President, ex-President Carter, that is *very* 
telling, very telling...
 
 
ESTABROOK:
It's a remarkable story, Paul, and it points out just what a 
fraud Carter is. I mean, all this business of Carter as a man of 
peace going around the world doing good. I mean, this 
sanctimonious charlatan that was President of the United States 
and is no better than he should be on these points. I mean, I 
judge not his personal conscience. That's not the issue. But one 
simply has to look at what he actually has *done*, over against 
the, over against the question of what his PR men have managed.
 
The most shocking evidence of this, you refer to, and that is a 
conversation that Carter had with President Aristide during the 
*1990* presidential election. As you, as you say, Aristide had 
come in at the last moment, one among almost a dozen candidates, 
and the U.S. had its candidate all in place: we had an ex-World 
Bank official who was supposed to become President of Haiti and 
not bother us very much.
 
When it looked like, at the last moment, that the popular 
movement *would* elect Aristide, *Carter* went to Aristide -- 
this is 1990, now -- and said that he, Aristide, really should 
withdraw, because his candidacy might produce bloodshed.
 
Now one can take the, gauge the seriousness of that threat as one 
wishes. But the remarkable thing is that Carter went to Aristide 
at the last minute, just before he was elected, and said that 
Aristide "for the highest reasons" should withdraw.
 
Now here's Carter once again, errand boy for the American elites 
-- as he has been, once again, recently. There was an amusing 
element of the recent Carter mission to Haiti, just *before* 
Carter went to Haiti to negotiate with General Cedras. It has now 
emerged [that] he [Carter] apparently had a phone conversation 
with General Cedras in which he asked the general to come and 
teach in his, Carter's, Sunday school! i.e., the parallel of his 
reaction to the two presidents of Haiti, or the two leaders of 
Haiti, is instructive. In 1990, he says Aristide should withdraw 
(because he's the head of a popular movement that's going to give 
him a majority vote out of 11 candidates). In 1994, he asked 
General Cedras please to come and talk about high-minded issues 
to his Sunday school.
 
Now which side is Carter on? The side of the majority of the 
people? Or the side of the elites and the killers?
 
I don't think there's any question about that, as there was no 
question in Iran, as there was no question in Nicaragua. Again 
and again Carter, this man of peace, this man of religion, turns 
out in effect to be on the side of the most brutal killers.
 
He's a fraud.
 
 
MUETH:
This from the pages of the *National Catholic Reporter*, not 
Allan Nairns great writing [CN -- e.g. see "Our Man in FRAPH" by 
Allan Nairn. *The Nation*, October 24, 1994] on the connection 
between the intelligence agencies and the people who are the 
inheritors of the legacy to the Tonton Macoute, Duvalier's 
hatchet men, machete men, whatever you want to call them. So 
it... September 30th, I think. And thanks for the caller last 
week who brought that to my attention.
 
I heard something just recently that Aristide has pledged not to 
run, he's made all sorts of agreements with the IMF 
[International Monetary Fund]. I don't think he'll be asking to 
raise the minimum wage for the Haitian worker. He's talking about 
poverty... "going from misery to poverty with dignity".
 
And but there is, I did hear an announcement that there *is* some 
question about whether he will ask the legislature to give him 
his full term.
 
 
ESTABROOK:
*The Wall Street Journal* this week is promoting Evans Paul, who 
is sort of a "right wing Aristidian" (if we can speak that way) 
as the next president of Haiti. So the U.S. already has its 
candidate, its [unclear] for the next time around.
 
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