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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2 Num. 31


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2  Num. 31
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK INTERVIEW
 
Sherman Skolnick was interviewed on *Radio Free America* 
(Shortwave, 5.810 mHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on September 2, 1994. 
Mr. Skolnick is a veteran investigative reporter from Chicago and 
founder of the "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts" in 
that city. Following is my transcription of that interview. 
Host/Interviewer is Tom Valentine.
 
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[...continued...]
 
SKOLNICK:
Right.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes. We don't want to forget that one. We want the listeners to 
all get that, those 3 letters, 4 letters, that's a 4 letter word: 
BCCI.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Right. The Bank of Credit and Commerce International. That's a 
secret. By the way, I don't want to digress, but we did a program 
recently on television for an hour, pointing out that BCCI, 
contrary to what the press says, has *not* gone under! They are 
operating under another name and they're buying out banks in 
Chicago through their holding company, Pinnacle Bank Group, which 
is tied in with Jimmy Carter's people which is where that BCCI 
started from in the beginning! Bert Lance and those people.
 
And by the way, one of the reasons for what we believe is the 
murder of Vincent Foster, jr., is that he and his law partner, 
Hillary Rodham Clinton, arranged secretly for BCCI to have a 
great presence in the United States. And evidently, Danny 
Casolaro was on to that.
 
But getting back to Elliott Richardson's additional rebuttal to 
Bua's grand jury report -- He said there's a secret unit in the 
Justice Department, and *as* *a* *front*, they're operating 
through 100 commercial companies, as a front. But their main 
business is to go around murdering witnesses!
 
Now that is very interesting...
 
 
VALENTINE:
It *is*, because you said that many years ago.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Yeah! And we brought a federal lawsuit against Bua, and his 
colleagues in the courthouse bottled us up and wouldn't allow any 
hearing. But we contended that there were, at that time, which is 
the fall of '93, of '92, that there were 40, over 40 grand jury 
witnesses murdered!
 
So I mean, what kind of a report could he [Bua] issue to the 
grand jury if over 40 witnesses were murdered! I mean, the thing 
is... It's outrageous! And...
 
 
VALENTINE:
Well it was a farce!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Right! And we made it all a matter of record.
 
Now what's interesting *now* is, in Chicago, the papers here have 
been covering an embezzlement scandal. The federally funded 
Chicago Housing Authority [CHA], which builds buildings for poor 
people to live in, you know?
 
 
VALENTINE:
The famous Robert Taylor Homes, Cabrini Green, and so forth.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Right! Their pension fund, the CHA pension fund, has been 
embezzled out of $12 million. That's been contended day after day 
in the *Tribune* and the *Sun-Times* and so on.
 
What's interesting is, we found out that there's a grand jury in 
*another* part of the country looking into a *tremendous* scam 
involving hundreds of millions of dollars. And what do ya know?? 
The pension fund scam here, of the Chicago Housing Authority, is 
a part of it. And this other grand jury is hearing testimony that 
Nicholas J. Bua is involved.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Huh! O.K. My guest is Sherman Skolnick. And you just heard it: 
right now, somewhere in the U.S., is a grand jury, and our judge 
is involved.
 
We shall return. I'm Tom Valentine. This is *Radio Free America*.
 
[...commercial break...]
 
All right. Sherman Skolnick of the Committee to Clean Up the 
Courts in Chicago is my guest. And Sherman, tell everyone (before 
we get back to this very exciting news item about Judge Bua being 
somehow part of this pension fund rip-off, or at least being 
alleged that at a grand jury hearing), um, tell us about your 
telephone message service first. 'Cause a lot of people want to 
hear what you've got to say, and you change those messages 
several times a week.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Right. We have a recorded, 5 minute message, which is a regular 
phone call -- it's not an expensive call. You can call it at 
night, for example, when it's cheaper. And it's 731-1100. And 
that's Chicago, which is area code 312. 731-1100, in Chicago.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Right. You call up Chicago, area 312, 731-1100, any time of day, 
around the clock, and you can listen to a recorded message. How 
long is it usually, Sherman?
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Five minutes, and we change it 3 times a week. We've got 
listeners [laughs] all the way from Hawaii to Maine to Puerto 
Rico to Canada. It's a regular phone call, and we've been running 
it...
 
 
VALENTINE:
Now you coulda run this as a 900 number years ago and probably 
done all right. But you've kept it cheap for the folks.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Right. It's a regular... It's just a regular long-distance call.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Very good.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Now our current message is about Bua. But now here's the point! 
In this pension fund case, people far away are being arrested, 
with international connections. For example, there's a story in 
the *Tribune*, August 26th, that mentions that there was a 
character arrested in Fort Lauderdale [CN -- apparently named Mr. 
Polichemi], who's got a $5 million home there, with banking 
connections all over the world, including in Luxembourg. And that 
he is reportedly involved in this pension fund rip-off in 
Chicago.
 
*But*, what the *Tribune* and the rest of 'em do not mention is 
that there's a grand jury *outside* of Chicago which is looking 
into this and that apparently, Mr. Polichemi reportedly is in 
some way connected with Bua! -- the former federal district judge 
who went on to be the special counsel to the Inslaw grand jury.
 
Other things that the out-of-town grand jury reportedly is 
hearing is that Bua originally was installed on the federal bench 
through a shadowy character in California named George K. Pender 
-- that's P-e-n-d-e-r.
 
 
VALENTINE:
That's a Reagan "Kitchen Cabinet" guy!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Right. And Pender, according to documents that we [CCCC] have, 
ran a company... He was the president, chairman, and director of 
a company in Santa Monica, California, named First 
Intercontinental Development Corp. And according to documents 
from that company, here are the ones that were directors of 
Pender's company. (And Pender is the one that's reportedly been 
in with Bua.)
 
A director was Robert A. Maheu(sp?) [pronounced MAY-hoo], former 
chief executive for Howard Hughes' operations. And Maheu has been 
accused, in various books, as being a long-time CIA operative, 
reportedly supervising assassins -- such as Chicago gangsters.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes, that's been reported in many books.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Another senior vice-president, director, and chairman of the 
investment committee of *that* company, was Robert Booth 
Nickols(sp?) [pronounced NIK-kuls], who was Riconosciuto's former 
business partner.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yeah! And a *major* Inslaw player and possibly the man behind the 
killing of Casolaro!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Right. And Robert Booth Nickols uh, we confronted his former 
business partner, Riconosciuto, who went straight into orbit when 
he realized that we found out that Nickols apparently was 
implicated in the New York World Trade Center bombing.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Who went through the roof? Mike Riconosciuto?
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Yes.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Oh-oh. Must have touched a nerve, huh?!
 
 
SKOLNICK:
We spent four-and-a-half months interviewing him and he usually 
kept his cool. But when we confronted him about Nickols being 
possibly *involved*... Well, we reached him on the phone, 
actually, after that World Trade Center bombing, and he *shouted* 
at us that we must *get* *off* *that* *case*!
 
So we think there's a connection there.
 
                   [...to be continued...]
 
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