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Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2 Num. 29


              Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 2  Num. 29
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                    ("Quid coniuratio est?")
 
 
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SHERMAN SKOLNICK INTERVIEW
 
Sherman Skolnick was interviewed on *Radio Free America* 
(Shortwave, 5.810 mHz, mon-fri, 9 pm cst) on September 2, 1994. 
Mr. Skolnick is a veteran investigative reporter from Chicago and 
founder of the "Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts" in 
that city. Following is my transcription of that interview. 
Host/Interviewer is Tom Valentine.
 
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[Awesome sounds of John Phillip Souza's "Stars and Stripes Forever"]
 
ANNOUNCER:
It's *Radio Free America*, the talk show for intelligent 
Americans, with your host, Tom Valentine.
 
*Radio Free America* is brought to you by *The Spotlight* [CN -- 
Note: Throw mud here.] Call 1-800-522-6292 for your subscription.
 
And now, the newspaper that "tells it like it is" presents Tom 
Valentine.
 
 
TOM VALENTINE:
Somebody sent me a thing that says, "Forget the Alamo. Remember 
Waco." I don't know if Texans would go for that one! But we do, 
must, remember Waco.
 
Hey everybody! Welcome back, to *Radio Free America*.
 
Right now we're going to remember something that... almost as bad 
as Waco. Waco had 90 citizens killed by the feds, I believe. A 
total of 90, with 4 federal officers killed. In the Inslaw case, 
we have about 42 to 45 people killed! Surreptitiously. Quietly. 
Controversially.
 
I am going to introduce those of you who are new to this show to 
an old friend and old guest of *Radio Free America*. Every time 
things seem to be slowing down, you just make a call to Chicago 
and talk to the man who founded the uh, "Citizens for Clean Up 
the Courts" [Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, here 
also referred to as CCCC], the "Commission to Clean Up the 
Courts". And that's Sherman Skolnick. And you bring him on, and 
he is 24 hours a day, believe it or not, 24 hours a day that he 
and his sources (they're all over the country) [are] digging into 
the corruption that goes on in this country.
 
And I want to welcome you back to *Radio Free America*, Sherman.
 
 
SHERMAN SKOLNICK:
...my pleasure to be on your show again, Tom.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Hey! How's your television show goin'? I understand you're still 
one of the most popular things in Chicago...
 
 
SKOLNICK:
...public access channels here, and our Monday night show, which 
is a non-commercial show, out-polls three of the commercial 
channels. So some of the commercial TV stations in Chicago are 
not happy with us!
 
 
VALENTINE:
Well they oughtta learn that the people are sick and tired of the 
pablum and would like to get something genuine and something to 
sink their teeth into and make them think! And that's what you're 
doing.
 
Now, the reason you're talking today is that we talked in the 
past about the Inslaw scandal and the cover up by the United 
States government when they assigned the Inslaw investigation to 
a "special counsel" and they named a federal judge that you are 
very familiar with up in Chicago. And that's Judge Nicholas Bua 
[pronounced BOO-ahh]. Correct?
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Yes. For those that may not be familiar with the Inslaw thing: 
that was a super-duper software, designed originally to be used 
to keep track of the caseloads of federal prosecutors. But it was 
later modified and used so that, through satellites and others, 
they keep track of people worldwide!
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes. It's a great spy system and uh, oh just all kinds of good 
things.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Well it was given, secretly, to spy agencies all over the world: 
the Iraqi secret police, the Israeli secret police, the Mossad, 
Sweden, France...
 
 
VALENTINE:
Canada. The Canadian Royal Mounties.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
And the ones that *designed* the thing didn't know that, contrary 
to their copyright, it was being sold or given away in violation 
of law! *And* it was done by persons connected with the Justice 
Department! [Unclear] the buyer of the original software, which 
was designed (as I said) to keep track of federal prosecutors' 
caseloads.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Good ol' Ronald Reagan outfit... Edwin Meese.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
But what happened was that in 1991, a federal grand jury was set 
up in Chicago. And the special counsel to it was a recently 
resigned federal district judge, Nicholas J. Bua. The Justice 
Department put him up to do something which most of us this 
afternoon would consider rather foolish -- and that was, for the 
Justice Department to investigate themselves. [laughs] You know, 
on the surface you could see that there is something wrong with 
that.
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
And what happened is, they brought in witnesses from all over the 
world...
 
 
VALENTINE:
All right, let me stop you right here and ask you: Is it true 
that when you want something "fixed" and you need a good "fixer", 
you can't do better than to go to the city of Chicago and get a 
genuine "fixer"?
 
 
SKOLNICK:
[laughs] Well, I know what you're getting at, Tom: in other 
words, if you want to "fix" a case. *Our* [CCCC] opinion is that 
federal cases, federal litigation, is *transferred* from other 
places in the United States to Chicago, because here is "the big 
fix".
 
 
VALENTINE:
The *big* fix. Now. Is Judge Bua, is he kind of a rookie at this 
sort of thing? He's never "fixed" anything before?
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Well, in the 1970s he was a state court judge, and he was given 
the case that involved relatives of those that died in a plane 
crash in Chicago, where, among others, 12 Watergate figures died.
 
 
VALENTINE:
We'll cover, we'll talk about that, too. My guest is Sherman 
Skolnick. Sherman is the director of the Committee to Clean Up 
the Courts. I'm Tom Valentine. This is *Radio Free America*.
 
[...commercial break...]
 
All right. We are back, live. My guest is Sherman Skolnick of the 
Committee to Clean Up the Courts, in Chicago. We're gonna be 
discussing the Inslaw scandal.
 
Many Americans, I'm amazed, just don't understand that scandal. 
But in a nutshell (Sherman, I don't want to spend a lot of time 
on this, filling in so they have the background. I want to get to 
the latest news. But) briefly, the Justice Department: It has 
been proved, on the record, that the Justice Department *stole* 
Inslaw from the Hamiltons.
 
 
SKOLNICK:
That's enforced their company, Inslaw, into bankruptcy. They made 
what the layman would call a "counter claim" against the Justice 
Department. And the bankruptcy judge made an extensive trial and 
findings that there was deceit and fraud by the Justice 
Department, in stealing this highly complicated software created 
by the Hamiltons...
 
 
VALENTINE:
Yes. And it was converted by people high up in the Reagan 
administration and friends of Ronald Reagan into a money maker 
around the world.
 
Now Sherman, one other thing: One of the most... One of the *few* 
still respected people in Washington would be Elliot Richardson. 
Would you say that's true?
 
 
SKOLNICK:
Yeah. He was the former attorney general under Nixon, who was 
forced out in what was known as the "Saturday Night Massacre" {1} 
in October '73, when they were investigating the Nixon White 
House. And Nixon "had their heads chopped off", so to speak.
 
                   [...to be continued...]
 
-------------------------<< Notes >>-----------------------------
{1} Skolnick actually says "October Massacre" but I am fairly 
sure it is really known as the "Saturday Night Massacre".
 
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