Subject: [soc.history.war.world-war-ii] Frequently Asked Questions
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Contents:

1).History of this forum
2).Charter (Original Text)
3).Moderation Policy 
4)      Moderation Policies (Amendments 1994)
5)      Moderation Policies (Amendments 1995)
6).Moderators List. Add/del policy. Setup
7) .Why this forum exits.
8).Where & How to submit articles
9).Some Helpful tips
10).World War II Archives: (four) FTP Sites
11).50 YA Archive & Other Files on World-Wide Web (www)
12).This FAQ: Archive Info, History & Credits


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Subject: 1) History of this forum


    NewsGroup: soc.history.war.world-war-ii
    Description: History & Events of World War Two.
    

    Status: moderated
    
    Proponent: ....Joel Furr (jfurr@acpub.duke.edu)
    
    Request for Discussion: ..Feb 21, 1994
    Call for Votes: ...March 23, 1994
    Voting Ended: ...April 13, 1994 23:59:59 UTC
    Vote Taker: ...UVV
    Votes: ....181 in favor, 17 against
    


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Subject: 2) Charter (Original Text) 

    Author: Joel Furr
    

    Discussion of the era 1939-1945 in  particular,  but ranging as far back
    as 1918 and as far forward  as  the  1950's  for  discussion  of  events
    leading to the War and post-war  events  such as the occupation of Japan
    and Germany. The  discussion  will  be  limited  to  social,  political,
    military, economic, technological, demographic, and historial aspects of
    World War II, including discussion of: 



    * Arms limitations treaties in the 1920's, intended to head
    off any future war
    * the Weimar Republic
    * the rise of the Italian Fascists
    * the Japanese war with China
    * the rise of the Nazi Party
    * American isolationism
    * Franco-British appeasement
    * Italian misadventures in Africa
    * German occupation of the Sudentenland and Austria
    * the war proper, 1939-1945
    * the Manhattan Project
    * the Holocaust
    * Post-war occupation of Japan and Germany
    * Post-war governments of Europe
    * and so on.
    



    In other words, the mandate for soc.history.war.world-war-ii is intended
    to be broad, rather than narrow, with  moderation in place less to limit
    discussion than to keep out Gannon  and  the  Holocaust Revisionists and
    other malicious  posters.  Should  Dan  Gannon  or  Serdar  Argic submit
    articles which actually  discuss  World  War  Two  rather than spreading
    their brand of conspiracy theory,  their  articles  will be approved for
    submission as well. 


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Subject: 3) Moderation Policy 

    
    Soc.history.war.world-war-ii will have a very relaxed moderation policy.
    The main purpose, as noted  above,  for  moderation  of this group is to
    prevent  it  from  turning  into  a  revisionist   flamefest   akin   to
    misc.headlines or  soc.history.  As  such,  any  message  which actually
    discusses World War II will be  approved  for  posting, provided that it
    does not attempt to  claim  that  events  such  as  the  Holocaust never
    happened. There are other groups  for  discussion of that question, most
    notably, alt.revisionism. 

    Moderation rules: 

    * Articles which discuss World War  Two  and its events will be approved
      for posting. 

    * Articles  arguing  that  the  Holocaust  never  happened  will  not be
      approved for posting. 

    * Articles must contain  original  thought.  Lengthy  quoting  of source
      material with a couple of  lines  of  comment  at  the  end  will  not 
      be approved for posting. 

    * Blank messages, test messages, advertisements, MAKE.MONEY.FAST, and so
      forth, will not be approved for posting. 

    * Articles which include excessive quoting (e.g. an article which quotes
      an  entire other article in order to  add a few comments at  the  end) 
      will be trimmed down by the moderator in question. 

    * An article MUST have  a  valid  reply-to  address  or  it  will not be
      approved for posting. 

    * Rejected articles will be shared  with  the other moderators for group
      consideration. 


    As noted below, the group will  be  group-moderated,  to  minimize delay
    between submission and posting and  to  keep  the group running when the
    traffic becomes heavy. 

.ADDENDUM: 'War Buddies' [June 94]

We've had a few of this type of message lately, and it seems to be a "gray
area" in our charter.  These messages don't _really_ discuss WW2, and they
don't have any real historical content.  

People who want to search for old war buddies should post to soc.veterans.


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Subject: 4) Moderation Policies (Amendments 1994) 


    The moderators  of  soc.history.war.world-war-ii,  in  exercise of their
    rights to clarify  &  amend  moderation  policies  for  the  news group,
    clarify    &    amend    the    moderation       policies     for
    soc.history.war.world-war-ii. 

    These amendments are  effective  immediately.  Any  questions  should be
    addressed to: ww2-mod@acpub.duke.edu. 


    QUOTED TEXT: 

    Any article that contains more  than  fifty percent quoted material (and
    the author's signature shall not count as original material for purposes
    of determining  the  proportion)  may  be  trimmed  or  rejected  at the
    discretion of  the  moderator.  In  exercising   this  discretion,  the
    moderator shall take readability  considerations  into  account, such as
    the amount of quoted material at  the  beginning of the message, and the
    size of the blocks of quoted  material.  An  article in which the author
    has included a long article as a quote without making any effort to trim
    the quoted article may be rejected. A moderator may trim quoted material
    from any article at his discretion. 


    SIGNATURE LENGTH: 

    In keeping with Usenet  netiquette  conventions,  signatures  should  be
    restricted to four  lines.  Moderators  may,  at  their discretion, trim
    .sigs to four lines before posting articles. 


    POSTINGS SEEKING 'WAR BUDDIES' 

    Soc.history.war.world-war-ii is a  forum  for  discussion of WW2 events,
    not to seek out  war  buddies.  Soc.veterans  is  the  most  appropriate
    newsgroup to seek out  individual  veterans.  Moderators  may,  at their
    discretion, reject  articles  that  seek  out  individual  veterans  and
    suggest that they be redirected to soc.veterans. However, the moderators
    also recognize  that  some  requests  in  that  vein  can  generate good
    discussions of history or  of  resources  for  WW2  research. Therefore,
    moderators will  evaluate  such  articles  before  rejecting  them,  and
    moderators may post such  articles  if  they  decide  that they have the
    potential to generate WW2 discussion  of general interest to the readers
    of the newsgroup. 

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Subject: 5) Moderation Policies (Amendments 1995) 

    -June 95- 

    REGARDING ANNOUNCEMENTS
    
    Moderators may  accept  articles  announcing  the  availability  of new,
    scholarly materials, if  the  moderators  determine,  in the exercise of
    their discretion, that  the  announcement  of  such  scholarly materials
    furthers the  purposes  of  the  newsgroup.  The  posting  of  any  such
    announcements  by   commercial   enterprises  does  not  mean  that  the
    moderators will feel  obliged  to  post  all  articles  from  commercial
    sources.Moderators will evaluate all such announcements on an individual
    basis. 



    SEEKING E-MAIL RESPONSES 

    Moderators may reject any article that specifies replies by e-mail only,
    if the author does not offer to  summarize  the e-mail responses for the
    entire group.  Authors  should,  of  course,  follow  up  on  offers  to
    summarize, or they risk losing  their  credibility  among the moderators
    and other newsgroup readers. 


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Subject: 6) Moderators List. Add/del policy. Setup

    

    Moderators will be added by majority vote of the existing moderators and
    moderators will be removed by 2/3 vote  in the event that a moderator is
    shown to be failing to do the job (i.e. not posting anything). 


    LIST OF CURRENT MODERATORS FOR soc.history.war.world-war-ii
    __________________________________________________________________
    Dated: January 10, 1995
    

    1. amcmicha@mason1.gmu.edu ...Andrew McMichael
    2. bkottmann@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil .Brett Kottmann
    3. jbdavis@nando.net...John Davis 
    4. kbullock@acpub.duke.edu ...Kenneth Bullock
    5. mughal@alumni.caltech.edu ..Asim Mughal
    6. rick@bcm.tmc.edu ...Richard Miller
    7. schafer@anubis.network.com ..Martin Schafer
    


    June 09, 1994 - Due to technical problems moderator resigned.
    -------------
    ai292@freenet.carleton.ca ...Gordon McFee


    Oct 12, 1994 - E-mail address for moderator John Davis updated. 
    ------------
    NEW Address: jbd@netcom.com ..John Davis
    OLD Address: jbd@osbm.state.nc.us 


    Oct 24, 1994 - Moderator resigns due to other commitments.
    ------------
    jfurr@acpub.duke.edu ...Joel Furr


    Jan 10, 1995 - Resignation confirmed
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    kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca ...Ken McVay


    Feb 12, 1995 - E-mail address for moderator John Davis updated.
    ------------
    NEW Address: jbdavis@nando.net..John Davis
    OLD Address: jbd@netcom.com ..


    ADD/DEL POLICY FOR MODERATORS:
    _____________________________
    
    Moderators will be added by majority vote of the existing moderators and
    moderators will be removed by 2/3 vote  in the event that a moderator is
    shown to be failing to do the job (i.e. not posting anything). 



    MODERATION SETUP/APARATUS 
    _________________________ 

    This group will be group-moderated using  a Majordomo listserver. It has
    been configured so that each article received at  ww2-sub@acpub.duke.edu
    will be sent to the next moderator  in  turn, using a list of subscribed
    moderators.  Hence,  the   *submission*  address  for  articles  will be
    ww2-sub@acpub.duke.edu.  The   *contact*  address  for  the  group, once
    created, will be ww2-mod@acpub.duke.edu. 


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Subject: 7) Why this Forum Exits? 

    Author: Joel Furr
    

    A war includes  more  than  military  events.  A  war  includes  social,
    political, economic, military, and  demographic  events. Discussion of a
    war typically includes  the  *war  era*  and  not  just the war. Present
    groups which  exist  to  discuss  military  issues  are  very  specific:
    sci.military, alt.folklore.military, alt.war. All of these tend to focus
    very strongly on the  military  aspects  and  less on the historical and
    other aspects.  Soc.history.war.world-war-ii  will encompass all aspects
    of war. 

    Discussion of World War II  and  wars  in  general takes place on a wide
    range of newsgroups,  many  of  which   specialize  on  recent  military
    history. The  most  notable  example  of  war  discussion  taking  place
    elsewhere is the World War II mailing list, which averages 800 kilobytes
    per month of traffic and which  almost  closed down after presenting far
    too great a  load  on  its  moderators   than  they  could  handle.  The
    moderators of the list are in  support  of the proposed newsgroup as the
    subject is far larger than can  be  easily  dealt  with  in mailing list
    form. A newsgroup is needed. 



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Subject: 8) Where & How to submit articles ? 


    There are two ways to do so: 

    A- Thru USENET 

    While reading newsgroup  soc.history.war.world-war-ii  simply respond to
    the artilce or post a new  article.  The  article  will be automatically
    routed to one of the active moderators for review. 

    B- Thru E-MAIL 

    You may submit your article  to  the   following  address.  Again,  your
    article will reach one of the moderators for review. 

    The e-mail address is: 


    ww2-sub@acpub.duke.edu 

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Subject: 9) Some Helpful Tips 


    It may take up to 1-2 days for  your  article to be reviewed and another
    day or so for the article to reach  your  site after being posted from a
    moderator's site. 

    Articles not deemed fit for posting on the forum will be returned by the
    moderator with an explanation citing a rationale & the guidelines of the
    forum. 

    1. Always save a copy of your article  you submit till it appears on the
    forum. 

    2. If o The article does not  appear  on the newsgroup o The article was
    not returned back by the moderator o AND 3 days have elapsed. 

    Then  please  contact  the  moderators,  asap,  at  the  following email
    address: 

    ...ww2-mod@acpub.duke.edu 

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Subject: 10) World War II Archives: (four) FTP sites 


FTP SITE-1: 
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<jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry & Kim Jewell)  June 8, 1994>


.Host: . .byrd.mu.wvnet.edu
.Directory: ./pub/history/military/wwii
.Login:..anonymous
.Password:._your_email_address

.Directory Listing:

150 Opening data connection for /bin/ls (131.215.139.234,3498) (0 bytes).
4307.txt*               command.decisions/      pictures/
50.years.later/         conferences/            policy/
D-Day/                  declaration.of.war/     sept_1939/
U.S.Army.campaigns/     gpo_wwii.txt*           special.studies/
USN_wwii/               justice.pap*            speeches/
active_carriers.txt*    national_arc.txt*       treaties/
balkans.txt*            naval_chronology/       wwii-l_digests/
chrono_1938-41.txt*     pearl.harbor/


.June 11,1994: FTP site byrd is accepting contributions of public
..      domain items for the collection. Items  should  be 
..      uploaded to /pub/history/submissions.

.MORE Info on 'byrd'

<tryhardz@popmail.mcs.com (James P. Long) June 14, 1994>

Some of the subdir's in WWII are Battle of the Bulge/Command 
Decisions/D-Day/Naval Chronology.

The D-Day material contains very detaile studies of Utah Beach and Omaha 
Beach, both done by the War Dept. in 1945 and signed by George Marshall 
(they're in .ZIP format).


FTP SITE-2:
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< jbd@osbm.state.nc.us (John Davis) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:13:20 GMT>

[I have changed the archive location where I am storing the 50 YA articles. 
Please follow the instructions below for retrieving the 50 YA articles via 
anonymous FTP. Thanks, John Davis]

The June 1944 50 Years Ago Today articles are now available for downloading 
via anonymous FTP.


Instructions for downloading 50 YA articles -

o.The articles are stored by month. 
o.To retrieve the articles by FTP,  " % ftp ftp.netcom.com", 
o.enter "anonymous" when prompted for login ID, 
o.enter your Internet mail address when prompted for password. 
o.To change to the directory where the articles are stored enter 

.."cd /pub/jbd" 

o.The file name identifies the month 

..(example - may1944.txt, contains the May 1944 articles).

Directory Listing:.

150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
apr1944.txt     may1944.txt .jun1944.txt 
226 Transfer complete.


FTP SITE-3:
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<Stupendous Man <BKOTTMANN@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL> June 17 '94> 

.The ftp address for Miss. State is:

...ftp.msstate.edu

.Also note that the archives are available from other servers 
.as mirror files.

.Here are some more network archive sites:

Name=Unites States Military Academy
Path=
Host=euler.math.usma.edu
#
Name=History articles (various)
Path=1ftp:English Server:History:
Host=english-server.hss.cmu.edu
#
Name=White House information
Path=1/.dir/president.dir
Host=gopher.tamu.edu
Port=70
#
Name=Federal information services
Path=1/Other
Host=stis.nsf.gov
Port=70
#
Name=History Archives and Servers
Path=1/Subject/History
Host=riceinfo.rice.edu
Port=70

FTP SITE-4 
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<BKOTTMANN@FALCON.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL  Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 13:32 EDT>

http://enterprise.osd.mil/Demo/WWIInet/
Type: WWW page
Access: Public
Contributions: Mail to owner

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Subject: 11) 50 YA Archive & Other Files on World-Wide Web (www) 

.>Date: Sun, 9 Oct 1994 05:51:39 -0700
.>From: jbd@netcom.com (John Davis)
.
.50 YA Archive & other files on World War II are now accessible on 
.World Wide Web (www).

.URL:  .ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/jbd/ww2.html

."In fact this is the best way to get access to my archives."-John Davis.

...---x---

.>From: jbd@netcom.com (John Davis)
.>Subject: www page
.>Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 05:59:06 -0800 (PST)

.In my "50 YA" archives, I have added a page for our newsgroup. Basically
.I give an overview of the moderation process and then have a link to the
.FAQ file.If you have time and are interested, how about taking a look at
.it and let me know if I have anything wrong. You can reach the page by
.loading URL: "http://www.webcom.com/~jbd/ww2.html". Then click
.where the newsgroup name is highlighted.

...---x---

.Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 08:51:55 -0500
.>From: Kenneth Bullock <kbullock@acpub.duke.edu>

.URL for this resource is http://www.primenet.com/~custer


...---x---


.>From: elmer@wpi.edu (Andrew Toppan)
.Subject: Battleship & Aircraft Carrier info on the WWW
.Date: 16 Apr 1995 05:00:49 GMT

.Announcing new Battleship and Aircraft Carrier information available 
.on the World Wide Web (WWW):

.I have (finally) completed a series of lists that provide information
.on all US and Canadian aircraft carriers, all Dreadnoughts (worldwide) 
.and all US Pre-Dreadnought battleships.  Except as noted, all these 
.lists are my work, compiled from a variety of online and print 
.resources.


.Comprehensive Lists:
.-------------------
.These provide "vital statistics" on each ship (dimensions, armament, 
.etc.) as well as dates laid down, launched, commissioned, reclassified, 
.renamed, rebuilt, damaged, decommissioned, stricken, scrapped, etc.  
.This provides a brief history of each ship "in a nutshell".  Many books 
.have been written on these ships, I don't intend to duplicate that work
.by including every detail.

.Aircraft Carrier Lists(http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/military/carriers.html)

.*Canadian Carriers (from mcclearn@ug.cs.dal.ca}
.*Pre WWII US CV series
.*WWII era US CV series
.*Post WWII US CV series
.*US Escort Carriers
.*US Helicopter/VSTOL Carriers

.Battleship Lists (http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/military/battleships.html)
...(these cover *all* dreadnoughts)
.*US Pre-Dreadnoughts
.*US Dreadnoughts
.*British Dreadnoughts
.*German Dreadnoughts
.*French Dreadnoughts
.*Japanese Dreadnoughts
.*Italian Dreadnoughts
.*French Dreadnoughts
.*Russian and Soviet Dreadnoughts
.*South American Dreadnoughts (Argentina, Brazil, Chile)
.*Minor-Power European Dreadnoughts (Austria-Hungary, Greece, 
..Netherlands, Spain, Turkey)



.Other Lists:
.------------
.*Current Worldwide List of Aircraft Carriers
.*US WWII Carrier Force Levels (ftp'ed from byrd.mu.wvnet.edu}
.*Brief listing of British Dreadnoughts, 1906-1960 
....(from bssbh2ahj@zippy.dct.ac.uk}



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Subject: 12) This FAQ: Archive Info, History & Credits

ARCHIVE INFO: This FAQ is archived & availble thru anonymous FTP &
              thru world-wide web.

        Anonymous FTP:
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        1. SITE:        rtfm.mit.edu
           Directory:   /pub/usenet/news.answers/world-war-2-faq.Z

        2. SITE:        ftp.uu.net
           Directory:   /pub/usenet/news.answers/world-war-2-faq.Z


        Word-Wide Web:
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        URL for USENET FAQs:

        http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html

        URL for this FAQ:

http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/world-war-2-faq/faq.html



HISTORY:

Version 1.0  Released  May 10, '94:.Total 8 items 
Version 1.2  Released  Jun 10, '94:.Item #8 new, Item # 9- archive info add 
Version 1.3  Released  Jun 15, '94:.Item #3, updated, Item #9 expanded
Version 1.4  Released  Jun 26, '94:.Item #2, & #8 expanded.
Version 1.5  Released  Jul 17, '94:.Item #8 expanded.
Version 1.6  Released  Jul 27, '94:.Item #8 more info on 50yrs archive
Version 1.7  Released  Oct 12, '94:.Updated #3 & #8, New #9. Total 10 items
Version 1.8  Released  Jan 10, '95:.Updated #3, #10, New #4. Total 11 items 
Version 1.9  Released  Feb 12, '95:.Updated #5.
Version 2.0  Released  Jun 06, '95:.New # 6, updated #11. Total 12 items.


CREDITS: WW2 Moderators


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