Subject: FAQ : Where to post in REC.ARTS.MOVIES.*
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Date: 12 Apr 1996 11:04:01 GMT
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   Where to post in REC.ARTS.MOVIES.* Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

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                  Copyright 1995 by Christine S Ng

Recent changes : 
 
04/10  Charter of rec.arts.movies.erotica, a new newsgroup in the 
       rec.arts.movies.* hierarchy. (see 1.1)


                                Summary 

This is a guide for posting articles to the rec.arts.movies.* hierarchy. 
It summarizes answers to commonly asked questions on how to find the 
right groups to post articles in the existing rec.arts.movies.* groups.
It should be read by anyone who wishes to post to any rec.arts.movies.*
newsgroups.

Copies of this article may be obtained by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu
under < ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/movies/newsgroups-faq >.
This document can also be viewed at :
< http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu:80/text/faq/usenet/movies/newsgroups-faq/faq.html >
via a WWW browser.

Comments and suggestions on this FAQ are welcome and should be directed
to Christine Ng <cstng@MIT.EDU>.

This document is compatible with common newsreader digest handling 
functionality.

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Subject: TABLE OF CONTENTS

SECTION ONE : General Information

(1.1) .What movie newsgroups are there ?
(1.2).What other general movie-related FAQs/Info that are posted to
     .the movie newsgroups regularly ?
(1.3).What is the standard Netiquette ?
(1.4) .If I have something to tell all movie fans, should I crosspost ?
(1.5).What do I do when the thread has evolved into a topic that is 
.no longer appropriate for the newsgroup ?
(1.6).My post fits into two groups ? Where should I post it to ?
        [intelligent use of the "follow-up" function when posting]
(1.7)   What should I do if I don't have all the groups in the
        hierarchy ?


SECTION TWO : Specific guide for posting some common 
              rec.arts.movies.* topics

(2.1).Where should I ask which movies actor <X> starred in?
(2.2).Where should I talk about Oscars or other movie award ceremonies ?
(2.3).When I want to talk about actor <X> in movie <Y>, to where should 
.I post it ? 
(2.4).How do I decide if a film is current or past ?
(2.5).To which group should I post my personal N Best/Worst films of the 
.year ?
(2.6)   I just saw movie <Y> in a theater and I want to make comments about
        this movie, so that's movie-going, right ? Answer : NO
(2.7)   Where do I ask what is a good "first-date" or "Nth-date" movie ?
(2.8)   Where do I advertise "Movie Posters For Sale" ?
(2.9)   I want to ask about how the special effects of a film was produced. 
.Should I post it to .tech or .production ?
(2.10).What are some of the topics being discussed in .misc ?
(2.11).Where should I compare films of all times ?
(2.12)  Where do I ask about availability of movies on video
        and questions specific to the video versions of movies ?
(2.13)  Where do movie quote quizzes, trivia contests, etc., belong ? 
(2.14)  Where does discussion of the rec.arts.movies.* heirarchy 
        itself belong, such as comments/debate on any of the topics 
        in this FAQ, or discussion of splits or new newsgroups within 
        the hierarchy ?

SECTION THREE : Other movie-related resources outside the Usenet arena

(3.1) .Where are some of the movie-related WWW sites ? 
(3.2) .What movie mailing-lists are there?

SECTION FOUR : Hints on how to present your article

SECTION FIVE: Further reorganization of the rec.arts.movies.*
              hierarchy ?

(5.1)   When is the earliest day a subsequent split can be considered ?
(5.2)   In what newsgroups should the initiation of such proposals be 
        discussed ?
(5.3)   Where can I obtain more info on creation of Usenet newsgroups ?


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Subject: SECTION ONE : General Information


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Subject: (1.1)  What movie newsgroups are there?

There are a number of movie related newsgroups and they can be roughly
 categorized into three main groups :
.Group A : rec.arts.movies.*
.Group B : Other movie groups in the Usenet rec.* hierarchy
.Group C : Movie groups outside the Usenet rec.* hierarchy

This FAQ is primarily oriented toward the newsgroups in Group A. A short 
summary of each of these groups is below, followed by a listing of those 
newsgroups that fall under Groups B and C.

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Subject: Group A :
         
rec.arts.movies.announce [moderated]

  This moderated newsgroup contains information on up-to-date events in 
  the world of movies. For example: new movie announcements, 
  celebrity news, award ceremony news, award ceremony results, film 
  festival news, film festival reports, official blockbuster charts 
  and anything that is newsworthy.  What is newsworthy will be up to 
  the moderator's judgment.

  Moderators:  This newsgroup is being moderated by a team of moderators,
                with Colin Needham <cn@ibmpcug.co.uk> as the coordinator.

  For article submission, send email to <rama@ibmpcug.co.uk>.
  For questions about articles submitted, clarification of the 
  guidelines and other group related messages, send email to 
  <rama-request@ibmpcug.co.uk>.

rec.arts.movies.current-films
 
  This newsgroup is for discussing the contents (plots, quality, 
  meanings, goofs etc.) of movies that have been released recently 
  and also for discussing upcoming movies (movies in production or 
  not released yet for other reasons). Any films that are currently
  showing at a first-run theater somewhere in the world should be 
  considered to be current films. 

  This would mean that Americans who have just rented a US film from 
  the "New Releases" section in a video store should post their comments 
  to rec.arts.movies.current-films because the film may still be 
  in-release in Europe and Asia.

  The rule of thumb to use is : "A film is still current if it is within 
  1.5 to 2 years after its world premiere." 

rec.arts.movies.past-films

  This newsgroup is for discussing the contents (plots, quality, 
  meanings, goofs etc.) of movies that are more than a couple of
  years old.  This means all the old classics, all the old non-classics,
  from Casablanca to Blade Runner, from His Girl Friday to Die Hard,
  from Back to the Future :), from Psycho to The Godfather.  In
  other words any movie that hasn't been released in the last couple
  of years.

rec.arts.movies.reviews [moderated]  
 
  This is a low volume newsgroup where formal reviews of movies are 
  regularly posted. Submission of reviews of both current films and 
  older films are welcome.
  
  Moderator: Evelyn Leeper <evelyn.leeper@att.com>

rec.arts.movies.people
 
  This newsgroup contains discussions of actors, actresses, directors, 
  writers, composers, film critics etc. with focus on their skills, styles 
  and other characteristics of the person(s) discussed. It also contains 
  celebrity gossip.

rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys

  Lots of us love to try to name and discuss films with various specific
  qualities: movies with toilet scenes, movies featuring 30's big band
  music, movies with funky opening credits, actors/actresses with the 
  best/worst quality. This newsgroup encompasses all of these discussions, 
  as well as top ten, top twenty, & top (pick a number) lists; surveys 
  asking readers about their favorite comedy/horror/mystery/science 
  fiction film ever or actors/actresses; and other threads in which 
  the intent is to get a lot of people to name a lot of movies or 
  actors/actresses.

rec.arts.movies.movie-going

  This newsgroup is about the movie-going culture and theater experiences, 
  and is the place for questions like : "Where do you sit in the theatres?", 
  "Why do you watch the credits?", "The cinematic experience has died", 
  "How come men are afraid to cry when they watch movies?" 
  
rec.arts.movies.tech
    
  This newsgroup is for movie fans interested in the technical aspects of 
  movies and movie-making but are not actually interested in producing 
  movies themselves. Topics in this group includes all technical issues 
  which are approached from the point of view of the film-goer (aspect 
  ratios, sound systems, etc.) and also some topics on how movies 
  (special effects) are made. 

rec.arts.movies.production
 
  This is a special newsgroup for people who are interested in 
  making films. Topics that are discussed here include finding 
  proper site locations, filming contracts and budgets, where 
  to get film equipments, what consititute a good film school, etc.
  This newsgroup is primarily oriented towards people actually producing 
  films themselves.

rec.arts.movies.erotica

  This is a moderated USENET newsgroup dedicated to the intelligent 
  and mature discussion of erotic films and videos -- hardcore, 
  softcore or mainstream, gay or heterosexual. Discussion should be 
  limited to reviews of current and not-so-current releases, gossip, 
  behind the scenes stories, social, economic and legal issues 
  surrounding erotic films, and discussion of actors and actresses 
  (and directors and producers and...). Unacceptable submissions 
  include spams, commercials and binaries.
  
    Moderators: Jeff Knapp <director@gti.net>
                Imperator <imp@primus.paranoia.com>
                Brad Williams <brwi@ix.netcom.com>
                Peter Van Aarle <aarle@bart.nl>
                Tim Evanson <tevanson@netcom.com>
    Article submission address: rame@paranoia.com
    Administrative contact address: rame-request@paranoia.com

rec.arts.movies.misc

   This newsgroup serves as a catch-all group in the rec.arts.movies.* 
   hierarchy. Any topics that do not fit well into any other rec.arts.movies.* 
   groups should be posted here.

rec.arts.movies.local.indian
 
  The rec.arts.movies.local.indian newsgroup is open to discussion of
  all subjects related to Indian movies and the Indian film industry. The
  newsgroup is restricted to any specific language or region. This
  newsgroup has been created exclusively for fans of Indian movies. 
  Readers who wish to discuss internationally distributed Indian 
  films may wish to use rec.arts.movies.current-flilms or 
  rec.arts.movies.past-films instead.

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Subject: Groups B and C

Group B : Other movies groups in the Usenet rec.* hierarchy
^^^^^^^   rec.arts.sf.movies
          rec.arts.sf.starwars.collecting / .games / .info / .misc
          rec.arts.startrek.current / .misc / .reviews
          rec.arts.disney.* (.animation / .misc / .announce , etc) 
          rec.music.movies
          rec.video.releases

Group C : Movie groups outside the Usenet rec.* hierarchy
^^^^^^^   alt.cult-movies                       alt.sex.movies.
          alt.cult-movies.evil-deads            alt.movies.scorsese 
          alt.cult-movies.rocky-horror          alt.movies.spielberg
.  alt.asian-movies                      alt.movies.tim-burton
.  alt.movies.silent                     alt.movies.kubrick .
.  alt.movies.visual-effects             alt.movies.branagh-thmpsn
          alt.binaries.sounds.movies            alt.movies.chaplin
.  alt.movies.monster.                alt.movies.independent
          misc.writing.screenplays              alt.movies.cinematography
.  alt.movies.terry-gilliam
          alt.movies.christian-bale
  

  There are also many other alt.fan.* groups for many
  actors/actresses that you may wish to check out as well. 
  Some of them are listed below :

.  alt.fan.woody-allen                   alt.fan.actors
.  alt.fan.tarantino                     alt.fan.mel-brooks
.  alt.fan.monty-python                  alt.fan.schwarzenegger
                                                alt.fan.winona-ryder
                                                alt.fan.jodie-foster
                                                alt.fan.julie-roberts

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Subject: (1.2)  What other general movie-related FAQs/Info that are 
        posted to the some of the movie newsgroups regularly ?

Some of these movie-related info are listed below :

      rec.arts.movies Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) 
      rec.arts.sf.movies Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
      Movie Database: Frequently Asked Questions List 
      LIST: Crazy Movie Credits 
      LIST: Movie BIOGRAPHIES list 
      LIST: Movie Quotes (Part 1/2) 
      LIST: Movie Quotes (Part 2/2) 
      LIST: MOVIE TRIVIA: in-jokes, cameos, signatures 
      MOVIES: ALIEN FAQ part 1/4 
      MOVIES: ALIEN FAQ part 2/4 
      MOVIES: ALIEN FAQ part 3/4 
      MOVIES: ALIEN FAQ part 4/4 
      BLADE RUNNER Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) 
      BRAZIL (Movie, 1985) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) 
      Terminator/Terminator 2: Judgment Day FAQList 
      Rocky Horror Theater List 
      Elijah Wood Mini-FAQ 

The above FAQs can also be viewed at :
< http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet-faqs/bygroup/rec/arts/movies/top.html >
or
< http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet-faqs/bygroup/rec/arts/sf/movies/top.html >
using a WWW browser.

Other FAQs/info are :

      Movie ratings report summary
          The movie ratings report and ballot are posted regularly to
          rec.arts.movies.announce (summary only),rec.arts.movies.misc,
          rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys,alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies

      rec.arts.movies.production FAQ *
          Posted to rec.arts.movies.production only.      

      rec.arts.movies.announce FAQ 
          Posted to rec.arts.movies.announce only.   

      BEST OF DOLBY SURROUND MOVIE LIST 
         Posted to rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys.

      Disturbing Movies FAQ 1.0
         Posted to rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys,alt.cult-movies
         rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.movies.misc, 
         rec.arts.movies.movie-going,rec.arts.movies.past-films

      Tim Burton FAQ
         Posted to rec.arts.movies.people,alt.movies.tim-burton

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Subject: (1.3) What is the standard Netiquette ?

Although there is no authority controlling Usenet, there are generally
accepted traditions called Netiquette. Users may wish to refer to other
appropriate FAQs for details. They are available by anonymous FTP in 
rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.announce.newusers/* or check out :
< http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/bngusenet/news/announce/newusers/top.html > 
via a WWW browser.

A few that are most likely to be immediately helpful are:
       A_Primer_on_How_to_Work_With_the_Usenet_Community
       Answers_to_Frequently_Asked_Questions_about_Usenet
       Emily_Postnews_Answers_Your_Questions_on_Netiquette
       Rules_for_posting_to_Usenet

When posting, please remember that people all over the world are reading 
your words, so, carefully consider your postings ahead of time.

Specifically,

1) There is no need to repeat similar information in similar 
   subgroups of the same hierarchy (i.e. multiple groups in the 
   rec.arts.movies.* hierarchy).  ** DO NOT CROSSPOST **. 
   Doing so will only increase the volume of traffic on the net and 
   increase the amount of scaning that other users have to do.
   There are also costs associated with article transmission and 
   storage. Unecessary crossposting will only increase those costs.
   Follow the general rules of Netiquette (Usenet etiquette) described in 
   the news.announce.newusers postings above.

2) Always post your articles to the most appropriate subgroups in the 
   hierarchy.

3) Use a meaningful subject line. 

4) If for some reason, you must crosspost your article, divert all 
   follow-ups to the most appropriate subgroup (choose ONE group) 
   instead of to all groups that you are crossposting to.
   For example :
    
     Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.current-films,rec.arts.movies.people
     Follouwup-To: rec.arts.movies.people
     Subject: Is Cruise any good in Vampire ?
      
   (You should also mention in your post in which group that the 
    followups will appear so that people can follow your thread.)

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Subject: (1.4)  If I have something to tell all movie fans, should I 
        crosspost ?

If you think your post is "newsworthy", you may want to submit
it to rec.arts.movies.announce only. If the post is not accepted by the 
moderator, he will probably inform you the best place to post the article.

If there is a comment that you want to make and want everybody
to know about it, you should choose the group that fits your topic
the best.  
  [If you think your post fits into two(or more) groups, 
   refer to Section one, Question 5 on how to use the 
   "follow-up" function when posting.]
  [Please also refer to the standard Netiquette described in
   Section One, Question 3.]

If there isn't one that fits your post at all, your post should 
be discussed in rec.arts.movies.misc. 

DO NOT CROSSPOST IT TO MULTIPLE GROUPS IN the rec.arts.movies.* HIERARCHY.
  It is unnecessary as most people read more than one group. With
  as many newsgroups as there are, nearly no postings belong in more
  than one!

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Subject: (1.5)  What do I do when the thread has evolved into a topic that is 
        no longer appropriate for the newsgroup ?

When that happens, you should move the discussion to the most appropriate 
newsgroup and maybe even change the subject line as well. There are several 
ways to execute this transition :

1) Do one last response of this thread in the original newsgroup.
   Somewhere in the post, mention that you think the discussion should 
   be moved to a new newsgroup.
   Set the follow-up of the post to this new newsgroup.
   (i.e. in header, put, Followup-To:new_newsgroup)

2) If only a few people are involved in this particular thread, email to 
   inform the several individuals about the change of the forum for future 
   discussion.

Better yet, do both (1) and (2).

, if the thread is "dying", don't bother to followup on it to 
get it into another newsgroup. Your post will only keep the thread
alive a bit longer.

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Subject: (1.6)  My post fits into two groups ? Where should I post it to ?
        [intelligent use of the "follow-up" function when posting]

This should rarely happen. If it does happen and that there is no way you 
can identify one particular newsgroup, you may wish to do the following :

 1)  Decide which newsgroup is subscribed by the audience to whom
     you want to target your post. 
 2)  Then, send the post to both newsgroups.
     Mention in which newsgroup you wish to discuss this thread
     in the future.
     Set all follow-ups of the post to the newsgroup in which you 
     want to discuss this thread. 

For example :

  Subject: Is Cruise any good in Vampire ?
  
  Content : The poster could possibly be a fan of Tom Cruise
            and would like to know if he was good in the 
            film _An_interview_with_the_Vampire_. The main
            interest is Tom Cruise. IF the time of the post
            happens to be when the film has just been released, 
            only people who have seen the film will be able to 
            answer that.

  Solution :  Post to rec.arts.movies.current-films 
              and rec.arts.movies.people
             
              set follow-up to rec.arts.movies.people
              (i.e. in header, put, Followup-To:rec.arts.movies.people)

  NOTE : If the film involved in a similar example has been out
         for quite sometime (i.e. if it is a past film), many 
         people would have seen the film and you would 
         only need to post it to rec.arts.movies.people.

  The bottom line is : 
  Post it to the most appropriate newsgroup.
  There is NO NEED to crosspost it to both groups. With
  as many newsgroups as there are, nearly no postings belong in more
  than one!

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Subject: (1.7)   What should I do if I don't have all the 
         groups in the hierarchy ?

If your site does not carry some of the subgroups in the hierarchy
that you wish to read, you can send email to the Usenet newsgroups
mainatainer at your site and request them to start carrying the 
those subgroup(s) at your site. If you do not know how to contact 
that person, you can try sending email to :
  news@name_of_your_domain
  usenet@name_of_your_domain
  news@news.name_of_your_domain or other similar variations.

If all these fail, you can try sending a bug report from your
newsreader. 

Good luck.

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Subject: SECTION TWO : Specific guide for posting some common 
                        rec.arts.movies.* topics


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Subject: (2.1)  Where should I ask which movies actor <X> starred in?

You shouldn't.  Check The Internet Movie Database which can be accessed 
via a World Wide Web "browser" :

  < http://uk.imdb.com/Movies/ >            (European users prefered)
  < http://us.imdb.com/Movies/ >            (USA/rest of world prefered)
  < http://ballet.cit.gu.edu.au/Movies/ >   (Australian users *only*)

or via email to <movie@ibmpcug.co.uk> with subject "HELP"

The "Movie Database: Frequently Asked Questions List" is posted to the 
movie newsgroups regularly. Copies of the Movie Database FAQ may be 
obtained by anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu under 
< ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/movies/movie-database-faq >, 
or by sending e-mail to <movie@ibmpcug.co.uk> with the subject "HELP FAQ"

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Subject: (2.2)  Where should I talk about Oscars or other movie award 
        ceremonies?

Predictions and comments on Oscars or other movie award ceremonies
are popular topics. These topics are mostly related to current
movies and actors/actresses/directors of the films invovled.
Depending on the subject of your post, the most appropriate groups
should be either rec.arts.movies.current-films or rec.arts.movies.people.
Choose one of these to post.

If you think your comments are related to both the actor(s) and 
the film(s), you may wish to just send it to rec.arts.movies.current-films.
There is no need to crosspost to both groups as most readers
subscribe to more than one subgroup in the hierarchy. Please also
refer to the standard Netiquette described in Section One, Q3.

If you want to make general comments on the award show (like if the 
Oscars show was entertaining) or talk about your opinion of the Academy 
of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences in general, rec.arts.movies.misc 
could be a better place.

Many readers also like to ask for various lists of past Oscar winners. 
These posts should be directed to rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys. 

The main idea is that, choose the most appropriate group to post
your article. If none of the newsgroups fit the article, the article
should probably belong to .misc. There is no need to crosspost
your article to several groups in the same hierarchy.

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Subject: (2.3)  When I want to talk about actor <X> in movie <Y>, to where
        should I post it ?

The decision of where to post this type of articles requires a 
judgement call. The poster will have to decide the focus of this 
thread.

*  If your main interests are about the acting ability of actor <X>
   as illustrated in movie <Y>, and possibly other movies that
   actor <X> has been in as well, you should post it to rec.arts.
   movie.people.

*  If your main interests are about how actor <X> has influenced
   the quality of movie <Y> and would like to discuss things
   specific to movie <Y>, you should post it to rec.arts.movies.
   current-films or .past-films.

*  If you cannot decide on the focus of your post, maybe you 
   should just post it to one of the *-films group. 

There is no need to crosspost. Most people subscribe to more
than one group so they will see your post. Please also refer
to the standard Netiquette described in Section One, Question 3.

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Subject: (2.4)  How do I decide if a film is current or past ?

As stated in the charters of the newsgroups, a film is 
current if it is being shown in a first-run theater somewhere
in the world. Since it takes approximately  1 to 2 years for
films to travel around the world. The rule of thumb to use is :

"A film is still current if it is within 1.5 to 2 years after its 
 world premiere." 

This would mean that Americans who have just rented a US film from 
the "New Releases" section in a video store should post their comments 
to rec.arts.movies.current-films because the film may still be 
in-release in Europe and Asia.

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Subject: (2.5)  To which group should I post my personal N Best/Worst films 
        of the year ?

The newsgroup rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys is the group for this type 
of threads. Rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys is a group where people post 
surveys of movies/people over a variety of topics like : "best car chases?",
"The latest 50 movies I saw", "5 Fav Actors & Actresses", "Top 10 all-time 
movies", "Name your most underrated movie". 

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Subject: (2.6)  I just saw movie <Y> in a theater and I want to make 
        comments about this movie, so that's movie-going, right ? 
        Answer : NO

If you would like to make comments on films that you just saw in 
first-run theaters, rec.arts.movies.current-films is the place for that.
That group is where people engage in dicussion and analysis of the plots,
contents, meanings of films that they have seen.

In rec.arts.movies.movie-going, you talk about the movie-going culture. 
Why people sit at the back of the theaters, why people talk in theaters 
and any "more casual" conversation related to movie-going but not specific 
to any particular films.

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Subject: (2.7)  Where do I ask what is a good "first-date" or "Nth-date" 
        movie ?

This is a survey of good "first-date" or "Nth-date" movies and 
the best place is to post it to rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys.

But, if you want to talk about your movie-going experience during your first 
date (or Nth date) you discuss that in rec.arts.movies.movie-going.

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Subject: (2.8)  Where do I advertise "Movie Posters For Sale" ?

At present, we do not have a rec.arts.movies.marketplace or 
rec.arts.movies.collectibles. So this type of posts belongs to 
rec.arts.movies.misc.

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Subject: (2.9)  I want to ask about how the special effects of a film was 
        produced. Should I post it to .tech or .production ?

Threads on special effects of films should be posted to .tech.
This is where the technical aspects of movies are being discussed.
In rec.arts.movies.production, the emphasis is on how to get a 
film produced, from getting contracts to finding site locations.
Dicussions are generally not about any specific films.

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Subject: (2.10)  What are some of the topics being discussed in .misc ?

Newsgroup rec.arts.movies.misc is the catch-all group of the hierarchy. 
This doesn't mean that things there are unimportant, they just cannot 
be classified to any specific subjects at this time. You may want to 
subscribe to it in case something of your interest is posted there. 
Possible topics include :

        "Movie posters for sale"
        "Who's in the new Columbia logo?"
        "Where can I ftp scripts from?"
        "RFD: rec.arts.movies.people split"
        "Best WWW site for movies?"
        "CD-ROM Movie Database 'Cinemania' - any good?"
        "What is a 'Cult-movie' anyway?"
        "Starting an Arts Film Series"
        "Movie Database Programs for MS-DOS/Windows"
        "Latin coversation in Tombstone"
        "Rare & Cult Videos *Updated*"
        "Cinema Indonesia in Chicago"
        "Where can I find the script for Blade Runner ?"
        "E-mail zines list update"
        "Info on US film distribution needed"
        "What do you know about 70's Culture???"
        "Movie Posters FS"
        "FS:Laser Discs for Sale "Updated"10-11-95"


If you think your thread belongs in .misc, then it automatically 
means that it doesn't belong in anywhere else. So, there is no need 
to crosspost a misc-post to someother groups. 

Similarly, threads that belong to elsewhere need not be crossposted
to .misc either.

Please remember to minimize bandwidth.

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Subject: (2.11). Where should I compare films of all times ?

Rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys is the newsgroup that is devoted to doing 
surveys of this kind.

Eventhough the charter of rec.arts.movies.past-films encompasses
many films that have not been released in recent time, it is intended 
for the discussion of the contents plots and meaings of individual 
films. Extensive comparison of _many_ films in threads like "your 
most under/overrated film" should be discussed in rec.arts.movies
.lists+surveys. 

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Subject: (2.12)  Where do I ask about availability of movies 
        on video and questions specific to the video versions 
        of movies ?

Newsgroup rec.video.releases is devoted to such topics.
This group covers availability of movies on video and questions 
specific to the video versions of movies. This is the place to 
ask "When is Pulp Fiction coming out on video?", "Is Evil Dead 
available on LaserDisc?", or "Is there a letterboxed transfer 
of Phantom of The Paradise around anywhere?"

The charter of rec.video.releases is limited to topics on video
releases, so please don't post _general_ threads about movies,
regardless of age.

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Subject: (2.13)  Where do movie quote quizzes, trivia contests, 
          etc., belong? 

These topics are within the domain of lists and surveys so you should
post them to rec.arts.movies.lists+surveys.

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Subject: (2.14) Where does discussion of the rec.arts.movies.* heirarchy 
          itself belong, such as comments/debate on any of the topics 
          in this FAQ, or discussion of splits or new newsgroups within 
          the hierarchy ?

Issues related to the organization of the rec.arts.movies.* hierarchy,
or questions/comments of this FAQ (e.g. posting frequency, contents, 
definitions of charters, etc. ) should be discussed in 
rec.arts.movies.misc. The follow-up of this FAQ has been set to 
rec.arts.movies.misc. 

Initiation of further organization in the rec.arts.movies.* hierarhcy
(splitting of a rec.arts.movies.* groups or creation of new subgroups) 
should be discussed in the affect newsgroup(s) and in 
rec.arts.movies.misc as well. If you are interested
in such activity, please also refer to SECTION FIVE of this FAQ.

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Subject: SECTION THREE : Other movie-related resources outside the Usenet 
                         arena


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Subject: (3.1)  Where are some of the movie-related WWW sites ? 

As new movie-related WWW sites are created every minute, a complete
list of all WWW sites that have appeared in the newsgroups cannot
be provided here. The best place to start is probably the
list of alternative WWW access from the Internet Movie Database at :

 < http://us.imdb.com//Movies/alternative_access.html >

For more info on the Internet Movie Database, refer to (2.1) of this 
FAQ.

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Subject: (3.2)  What movie mailing-lists are there?

A collection of movie related mailing lists can be viewed from
a WWW browser at :

< http://web.mit.edu/cstng/list/movies-mailing-lists.html >

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Subject: SECTION FOUR : Hints on how to present your article

Here are some hints to help you to make your post more attractive :

1. While doing a follow-up on a post, you may want to edit the content of
   the pervious post. There is no need to quote ALL of the content of 
   ALL previous messages in a thread when creating a short reply. Doing 
   so will force readers to scroll through about two pages of the same 
   text quoted over and over again in subsequent replies, which often 
   include only 1 or 2 lines of new comment. For those that have the 
   capability, please try to quote just the passages to which you are 
   responding, not the entire long message or thread. 

2. Some newsreaders are limited to 80 columns. So, if someone types
   very lone lines (132 to 255 characters), readers may have to press 
   End/Home or scroll horizontally to read each line. If your software 
   doesn't word-wrap when you type, you could help us out by putting a
   carriage return before the 80th character.

3. Some people put the name of the newsgroup to which they are posting  
   in the subject line. This could be annoying since readers cannot tell
   what is the content of that post. Please try to use a meaningful 
   subject line that describes the content of your post. 



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Subject: SECTION FIVE: Further reorganization of the rec.arts.movies.*
         hierarchy ?


(5.1) When is the earliest day a subsequent split can be considered ?

The earliest subsequent split of newsgroups in the rec.arts.movies.* 
hierarchy is Dec, 1995.

(5.2) In what newsgroups should the initiation of such proposals be 
     discussed ?

When there are demonstrated needs of additional newsgroups or 
further divisions in rec.arts.movies.*, interested individuals should
discuss/debate such activities in the affected subgroups within the 
rec.arts.movies.* and to rec.arts.movies.misc as well to 
generate discussions among readers.

Examples :

Splitting an existing subgroup :

If you are interested in further division of rec.arts.movies.people 
into rec.arts.movies.people.actors and rec.arts.movies.people.directors, 
you should post your threads to rec.arts.movies.misc and 
rec.arts.movies.people.

If you are interested in creation of forums for art films or 
independent films within the hierarchy, you should post your 
threads to rec.arts.movies.misc, rec.arts.movies.current-films and 
rec.arts.movies.past-films.

Creation of new subgroups :

If you are interested in creation of rec.arts.movies.marketplace, etc, 
you should post your thread to rec.arts.movies.misc only.

Once a feasible and acceptable proposal for further reorganization
has been worked out among readers, you should then proceed to 
take the official steps involved in the creation of Usenet newsgroups.
This will involve moving the discussion to news.groups. Please 
read (5.3) for further info.

(5.3) Where can I obtain more info on creation of Usenet newsgroups ?

Individuals who wish to propose changes in the hierarchy 
should read the official Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines :

"How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" at :
< ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/creating-newsgroups/part1 >

or at :

Guidelines for Usenet group creation
< http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/faq.html >

Some other useful resources are available at :

UseNet Group Mentors
< http://www.uvv.org/uvv/ >

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Subject: ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS

The author of this document would like to thank those who have 
contributed to this FAQ. 

Particularly,
    .Lars J. Aas .<Lars.Jorgen.Aas@stud.idb.hist.no>
    .David Kirchner .<david6@netcom.com> 
and .Evelyn Leeper .<evelyn.leeper@att.com> 

who were involved in the creation of the first version of this FAQ.

List of other contributors:

        Joe McCauley       <mccauley_je@VNET.IBM.COM>
        Steve Davis        <stevedtx@prima.win.net>
        Allen Braunsdorf   <ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu>

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Subject: CLOSING 

This FAQ is being maintained by Christine Ng <cstng@MIT.EDU>.
Comments and suggestions for improvements are welcome.









